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Dec 22, 2016 16:40:08   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
Mac,

You take all the fun out of the art of the banter. I've been waiting for a long time to use that remark. don't take things so seriously, lighten up.
In the late 50's a little known camera company from Japan introduced a twin lens 2-1/4 reflex with interchangeable lenses. Rollei of Germany went around saying that the new camera
was just a fad and would never make it.I was one of the first to buy one. Guess who isn't making cameras any longer. In any event, I'm still of the opinion that the photo industry
will in a short time suffer a shake up. It is possible that you all will be shooting with a Kea or Hyundai DSLR.@ $99.00 Maybe a completely new technology, who knows.
Mac, br br You take all the fun out of the art of... (show quote)


I think you are correct about a shake up, but not necessarily in the way that you are projecting the outcome.

People that take snapshots will follow the smart phone route. Those people are not (yet) photographers. Photographers have different standards, and the economics of making a smartphone equal the standards of a professional level camera don't add up. P&S digital cameras are largely the walking dead, but 'serious' cameras, mirrorless or DSLR or hybrid in some form will live on while there are serious photographers on the planet. It is a higher bar.

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Dec 23, 2016 07:04:38   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise to the Islands;

Captain Al


I have just returned from an 8 day cruise to the islands (The Canaries) and Agadir (Morocco), I used my main camera an Olympus M43 most of the time but I also used my smartphone quite regularly.
Smartphones have their place for photography, their big drawback is using then in bright light when it can be difficult to view the screen.
The main use for my LG phone though is the photgraphs are sent from my Olympus camera to the phone as I take them where they are stored for PP later.

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Dec 23, 2016 07:27:37   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
Jerryl41,

I too took a small 10 year old Nikon Coolpix S60 P&S camera that fit into my breast pocket,
and did a good job. I also took an old Minox (about 30 years old) 35 GT film camera that I haven't used
in about 15 years. It was a good thing that I took film with me because no one sold film in the islands.

Captain Al

I have an old Coolpix S9100 that I sometimes travel with when a larger camera is inconvenient or I'm particularly lazy. It takes decent pictures, but the results are noticeably better with my A6000. But that old Coolpix produces better results than I've seen from any cellphone.

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Dec 23, 2016 07:32:31   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
[quote=Al Freeedman]My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise to the Islands; St. Thomas, St.Kitts etc. and I
noticed that those in their 30 to 50's were all using their cell phones to take pictures. Only a hand full
of older people were using DSLR or mirrorless cameras. In my humble opinion I think the future of photography
will be the cell phone. The quality has come a long way and good enough to print 4X6 for an album or stored in
ones computer. As long as there are professional's and serious photo buffs, there will always be a place and a market
for Mirrorless & DSLR's.

"Just my opinion, I could be wrong"

I have learned over the years that if the masses are for it, I run the other way but that is just me. It has cost me in some aspects like convenience, ease, and some other options but it has never hurt me. You see I am a quality guy through and through and will not yield to the other. The easy button is not even in my dictionary. When I go on a shoot I always take more equipment than I need just in case. Where others like compromise and do not care if the miss something, I do not want to be there. As has been said before, "whatever floats your boat". But I do not want to show up at a gun fight with a knife.

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Dec 23, 2016 08:54:37   #
Mark W Loc: Camden, Maine
 
Amen to that.
Al Freeedman wrote:
Mac,

You take all the fun out of the art of the banter. I've been waiting for a long time to use that remark. don't take things so seriously, lighten up.
In the late 50's a little known camera company from Japan introduced a twin lens 2-1/4 reflex with interchangeable lenses. Rollei of Germany went around saying that the new camera
was just a fad and would never make it.I was one of the first to buy one. Guess who isn't making cameras any longer. In any event, I'm still of the opinion that the photo industry
will in a short time suffer a shake up. It is possible that you all will be shooting with a Kea or Hyundai DSLR.@ $99.00 Maybe a completely new technology, who knows.
Mac, br br You take all the fun out of the art of... (show quote)

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Dec 23, 2016 09:48:09   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
Peterff wrote:
I think you are correct about a shake up, but not necessarily in the way that you are projecting the outcome.

People that take snapshots will follow the smart phone route. Those people are not (yet) photographers. Photographers have different standards, and the economics of making a smartphone equal the standards of a professional level camera don't add up. P&S digital cameras are largely the walking dead, but 'serious' cameras, mirrorless or DSLR or hybrid in some form will live on while there are serious photographers on the planet. It is a higher bar.
I think you are correct about a shake up, but not ... (show quote)



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Dec 23, 2016 11:00:26   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
Mac,

Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has one, maybe in your case two.

Captain Al


I notice you are "in hiding." I wonder why!

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Dec 23, 2016 11:28:39   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
I own an iPhone 6S Plus, a Canon G16, a Lumix FZ200 and a Nikon D7200, so I take pictures with the whole gamut of cameras. By far, the DSLR produces the best quality images. The FZ200, with its 1/2.3" sensor takes fair images, but they degrade when enlarged. I don't use that camera very much anymore, and despite the 600mm (eq.) zoom range, I find I don't have much use for that anyway. The G16 takes very good images, for a compact camera, providing they aren't larger than 8x10. The iPhone seems to take decent images, but are best viewed in the phone or computer. I use the phone to grab a quick shot of something, but nothing serious. The point being that, cell phone cameras are gradually improving and evolving, but aren't "there" yet. They allow precious little control of the camera. Yes, there are apps that allow some degree of control, but they're cumbersome, at best, and just don't give you what you get on an actual camera. Are cell phone cameras the way of the future? Who knows? For social media shots, yeah, but, IMO, not for much more. Are the P&S compacts on the way out? Possibly, but not necessarily, because there will always be those who want an actual camera and not a phone camera with its shutter & focus lag and extremely limited zoom range. I think the bigger question is will mirrorless eventually take over from the DSLR as the top dog. But I think we've had numerous discussions about that before.

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Dec 23, 2016 12:31:12   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise to the Islands; St. Thomas, St.Kitts etc. and I
noticed that those in their 30 to 50's were all using their cell phones to take pictures. Only a hand full
of older people were using DSLR or mirrorless cameras. In my humble opinion I think the future of photography
will be the cell phone. The quality has come a long way and good enough to print 4X6 for an album or stored in
ones computer. As long as there are professional's and serious photo buffs, there will always be a place and a market
for Mirrorless & DSLR's.

"Just my opinion, I could be wrong"

Captain Al
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise t... (show quote)


Interesting. I see just the opposite in my location. All teenagers I see own smartphones, Samsung, iPhones especially. And they don't have jobs, so parents are buying them for their kids. Adults own a DSLR and a smartphone, like me. The only difference is I don't take endless selfies as the teenagers do. Which is OK. I take my pocket camera with me when I don't want to be burdened down with my DSLR.

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Dec 23, 2016 13:14:29   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise to the Islands; St. Thomas, St.Kitts etc. and I
noticed that those in their 30 to 50's were all using their cell phones to take pictures. Only a hand full
of older people were using DSLR or mirrorless cameras. In my humble opinion I think the future of photography
will be the cell phone. The quality has come a long way and good enough to print 4X6 for an album or stored in
ones computer. As long as there are professional's and serious photo buffs, there will always be a place and a market
for Mirrorless & DSLR's.

"Just my opinion, I could be wrong"

Captain Al
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise t... (show quote)

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My wife & I were in the islands back in march. When we went to St Thomas we went to visit a friend who has a home on the third highest peak on the island.
Unfortunately that day it was badly overcast.
We each carry Sony a99's.

BTW: I am in my 70's and my wife is in he 60's.

Last Sept. we took them thru 4 countries in Europe.



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Dec 23, 2016 13:25:45   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
DeanS wrote:
I notice you are "in hiding." I wonder why!


Maybe he's in the Greek islands?

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Dec 23, 2016 16:08:25   #
lsimpkins Loc: SE Pennsylvania
 
OddJobber wrote:
Maybe he's in the Greek islands?



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Dec 24, 2016 00:41:11   #
Frank 2012 Loc: Olathe, Kansas
 
Al Freeedman wrote:
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise to the Islands; St. Thomas, St.Kitts etc. and I
noticed that those in their 30 to 50's were all using their cell phones to take pictures. Only a hand full
of older people were using DSLR or mirrorless cameras. In my humble opinion I think the future of photography
will be the cell phone. The quality has come a long way and good enough to print 4X6 for an album or stored in
ones computer. As long as there are professional's and serious photo buffs, there will always be a place and a market
for Mirrorless & DSLR's.

"Just my opinion, I could be wrong"

Captain Al
My wife and I just returned from a 10 day cruise t... (show quote)


I think you have a good opinion, but also need to cover all the future possibilities, like maybe eyeglasses/sunglasses that take pictures, wristwatches, rings on fingers, necklaces, lapel cameras. etc. Actually they probably already have these "Gizmos'.
Have a video camera wired to human eyesight transmitted (wifi) to a recorder in your pocket or a recorder 1 or 10 miles away turned on or off with a remote connected to the retina or optic nerve in the eye. All accomplished without invasive surgery to the human body. 007 might get one first then everyone will want one.

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Dec 24, 2016 12:20:22   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
OddJobber wrote:
Maybe he's in the Greek islands?


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Send your letter to St. Thomas, Geek Islands.
I think it will bounce.

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Dec 24, 2016 14:34:28   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
charles tabb wrote:
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Send your letter to St. Thomas, Geek Islands.
I think it will bounce.


"Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs?"

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