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Dec 14, 2016 19:19:02   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
magnetoman wrote:
Hmm.... I think it's just the lights, both rocks and sky, I'll see what I can do, but won't post again, it must be getting boring!


Lights it is. The difference of looking into the eyes of the living and into the eyes of the deceased. For me, it's not boring at all. Each step you take teaches us something about the small things that make a big difference. Please do post again.

I'm no expert, but as far as the halo - treat it alone rather than the whole image. One thing I've found that works can be very time intensive. By whatever means suits you select the halo line. Then gradually darken it until it matches the sky. Another way would be to Edit/Fill Selection/Content Aware.

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Dec 14, 2016 19:23:52   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
neilds37 wrote:
Lights it is. The difference of looking into the eyes of the living and into the eyes of the deceased. For me, it's not boring at all. Each step you take teaches us something about the small things that make a big difference. Please do post again.


OK Neil, but it will have to be tomorrow - gone midnight and I'm flagging a bit! Thanks for your continued interest, it is encouraging.

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Dec 14, 2016 19:28:47   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
magnetoman wrote:
OK Neil, but it will have to be tomorrow - gone midnight and I'm flagging a bit! Thanks for your continued interest, it is encouraging.


I was making an edit while you were typing.

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Dec 14, 2016 19:50:04   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
neilds37 wrote:
I was making an edit while you were typing.


I didn't go to bed - but didn't catch your edit either Neil! Here's the best I can do tonight - I've got the original post on my iPad in front of me whilst editing the second version. It looks close to me, there are differences but I don't think I've lost the original feel?? I'll pick up your comments tomorrow morning, we're now approaching 0100hrs! And trying to send it, the broadband has dropped out!


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Dec 14, 2016 19:55:44   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
Pure impact Dave!

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Dec 14, 2016 20:20:18   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
magnetoman wrote:
I didn't go to bed - we're now approaching 0100hrs!


Fantastic work, Dave! Even the lichen is growing on me

I got a great chuckle over your staying up past bedtime to change it. I'm pretty sure we can all relate!

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Dec 14, 2016 21:55:40   #
neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA
 
That brought some life back into it, Dave. Good going.

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Dec 15, 2016 03:27:14   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
My thanks to Frank and Neil for keeping me focussed, and Linda for your comments and enthusiastic encouragement. Looking at it this morning, it's a bit dark but not bad. It was a good practice session - and Franks got me on the Blend-if trail!

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Dec 16, 2016 06:23:16   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
In the first photo I think the composition is spot on, can't get much better than the rocks leading down from the upper left corner. It leads your eye down to the subject, a silhouette of a father taking a sons photo. Even the sky has some interest, looks to be on the angry side. That said, I think the lighting is not favorable, the foreground with all if the lite colored lichen/stark white/ on the shadowy rocks really pulls your eyes away from the subject and kills the shot. I think if you had the time and darken/clone out/ all or the lichen your photo will be a winner. I know they are part of scene, but my eyes can't get past them..Onto the second photo, I can see you paid attention again to the composition and using the rules of thirds, but I feel it's lacking any main subject. A full 1/3 of the top is empty and doesn't add to the photo. Add another 1/5 of the bottom to not adding to the photo You have to be careful using a wide angle lens, it's difficult to fill the frame. Now if you were to crop most all of the bottom out to the base of the rocks and about a third of the dark shy it might help condense the subject and help the photo

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Dec 16, 2016 06:37:45   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
In the first photo I think the composition is spot on, can't get much better than the rocks leading down from the upper left corner. It leads your eye down to the subject, a silhouette of a father taking a sons photo. Even the sky has some interest, looks to be on the angry side. That said, I think the lighting is not favorable, the foreground with all if the lite colored lichen/stark white/ on the shadowy rocks really pulls your eyes away from the subject and kills the shot. I think if you had the time and darken/clone out/ all or the lichen your photo will be a winner. Onto the second photo, I can see you paid attention again to the composition and using the rules of thirds, but I feel it's lacking any main subject. A full 1/3 of the top is empty and doesn't add to the photo. Add another 1/5 of the bottom half to not adding to the photo You have to be careful using a wide angle lens, it's difficult to fill the frame. Now if you were to crop most all of the bottom out to the base of the rocks and about a third of the dark shy it might help condense the subject and help the photo
In the first photo I think the composition is spot... (show quote)


Thanks for a thoughtful critique Martin. I am loath to remove the lichen, it is part of the area. I'll try toning it down - Linda tried to persuade me earlier, so with two of you seeing it that way it must be worth a try.

Like your idea for the bottom shot as well, perhaps with a bit off the right to reduce the over-panoramic effect the crop will make? Thanks for that.

If your dad's an Englishman, we may be related, I had a few cousins ended-up over that side of the water!

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Dec 17, 2016 06:39:20   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
I'd like to see a longer graduation on no.2 personally.

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Dec 17, 2016 06:46:04   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
John N wrote:
I'd like to see a longer graduation on no.2 personally.


Not quite sure how you mean John - over a greater tonal range?

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Dec 17, 2016 06:52:02   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
All the change seems to occur around a 1/3 down and a bit sudden for me. I like the dark top and I like the natural horizon, neither needs further darkening / highlighting. I would just like to see the change take place over more of the shot. Hope that makes it clear.

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Dec 17, 2016 07:35:33   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
John N wrote:
All the change seems to occur around a 1/3 down and a bit sudden for me. I like the dark top and I like the natural horizon, neither needs further darkening / highlighting. I would just like to see the change take place over more of the shot. Hope that makes it clear.


Gotcha John. My thanks for looking and commenting. I'll lift the bottom third a tad and see how it looks.

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Dec 18, 2016 04:34:03   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Number 2 for me!

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