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Dec 12, 2016 20:00:57   #
Maik723
 
Just getting a feel for this......... How many of you seasoned pros shoot in manual mode with auto ISO???? And,,,,,,if so, are results successful? If indoors, do you use flash in manual mode with auto ISO and get desired results?

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Dec 12, 2016 20:05:00   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
I never use Auto ISO.
Old habit- never had that option with film.
Don't use Program mode either.

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Dec 12, 2016 20:15:12   #
chaman
 
Manual always, AUTO ISO may nail the exposure.....but not the IQ I like.

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Dec 12, 2016 20:16:14   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
only time i lock down ISO is if i'm doing a full on 'zone system' shot which is rare.
Used to rant about manual only but now find happiness in aperture mode.

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Dec 12, 2016 20:27:50   #
BebuLamar
 
First I am not a pro let alone a seasoned pro so I hope the OP doesn't mind that I chime in. I do use auto ISO but only in A mode. I hate manual with auto ISO because when I shoot in manual I want to change the exposure manually and if auto ISO is on (although by changing aperture and shutter speed I actually do change the exposure) it will compensate for the changes in exposure and give an image of the same brightness. This is not what I want as I don't use thech EC so whenever the EC is needed I switch to manual.

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Dec 12, 2016 20:50:52   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Maik723 wrote:
Just getting a feel for this......... How many of you seasoned pros shoot in manual mode with auto ISO???? And,,,,,,if so, are results successful? If indoors, do you use flash in manual mode with auto ISO and get desired results?


Old school here. Film was one ASA (ISO), you needed to change it then you had to load a new roll. So . . .

I barely change ISO let alone use auto ISO. Old habits die hard. I use manual mode 90% of the time. I even have 4 manual focus lenses. And the AF lens I own have full-time manual override in AF mode. Old habits . . .

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Dec 12, 2016 20:58:00   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Maik723 wrote:
Just getting a feel for this......... How many of you seasoned pros shoot in manual mode with auto ISO???? And,,,,,,if so, are results successful? If indoors, do you use flash in manual mode with auto ISO and get desired results?


Maik, Auto ISO is an indispensable tool for some shooting situations.
Contrary to what you may read, auto ISO is NOT some random ISO that the camera just decides to throw in. Auto ISO, in certain noisy shooting situations allows you to reduce noise while still maintaining other perameters of your shot.
Auto ISO will allow you to control noise and get shots in some circumstances that are not possible in ANY other mode. Manual is extremely limited except when the conditions aren't changing.
If you're doing landscape and chasing bugs, by all means, use everything manual.
But if your doing fast paced action in changing light and shooting like a demon, manual will lose you a LOT of shots.
In any mode with manual(set) ISO, where some shots would need ISO 6400 and other shots only require ISO 1000, with manual ISO you have no choice but to use 6400, the highest common denominator of ISO, and EVERY shot will be noisy as all get-out, when maybe 1/2 of those could have been shot with an ISO of say 1600, which would make for a very clean shot. With an ISO of of 6400, you are left trying to salvage every shot in post with a possibly time consuming noise reduction program.
I'd rather spend my time shooting than being forced to use a mop and broom all night!!!
Know your camera, know it's modes and WHICH combination will give the best results.
I did it just like everybody else in the old days but I gave up the old horse and buggy techniques years ago.
Especially if your making some money with your camera, time is money! I don't care how GOOD cameras get, go above the native ISO, and you start to get noise!!
If this post is still going when I get home tonight, I'll post two pics that would have been impossible with a fixed ISO.
SS

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Dec 12, 2016 21:03:03   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Maik, Auto ISO is an indispensable tool for some shooting situations.
Contrary to what you may read, auto ISO is NOT some random ISO that the camera just decides to throw in. Auto ISO, in certain noisy shooting situations allows you to reduce noise while still maintaining other perameters of your shot.
Auto ISO will allow you to control noise and get shots in some circomstances that are not possible in ANY other mode. Manual is extremely limited except when the conditions aren't changing.
If you doing landscape and chasing bugs, by all means, use manual.
But if your doing fast paced action in changing light and shooting like a demon, manual will lose you a LOT of shots.
In any mode and manual(set) ISO, where some shots would need ISO 6400 and other shots only require ISO 1000, with manual ISO you have no choice but to use 6400, the highest common denominated of ISO, and EVERY shot will be noisy as all get-out, when maybe 1/2 of those could have been shot with an ISO of say 1600, which would make for a very clean shot. With an ISO of of 6400, you are left trying to salvage every shot in post with a possibly time consuming noise reduction program.
I'd rather spend my time shooting than being forced to use a mop and broom all night!!!
Know your camera, know it's modes and WHICH combination will give the best results.
I did it just like everybody else in the old days but I gave up the old horse and buggy techniques years ago.
Especially if your making some money with your camera, time is money! I don't care how GOOD cameras get, go above the native ISO, and you start to get noise!!
If this post is still going when I get home tonight, I'll post two pics that would have been impossible with a fixed ISO.
SS
Maik, Auto ISO is an indispensable tool for some s... (show quote)

I'm game to try something new.
Looking forward to your post.

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Dec 12, 2016 21:06:58   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I'm game to try something new.
Looking forward to your post.

LoL, you may be a bit Goofy, but I know you ain't no old DOG!!!
SS

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Dec 12, 2016 22:43:39   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
In film days we only had manual, so that's what I learned on and use most of the time. Im just more comfortable with it.

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Dec 13, 2016 01:45:41   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
BebuLamar wrote:
First I am not a pro let alone a seasoned pro so I hope the OP doesn't mind that I chime in. I do use auto ISO but only in A mode. I hate manual with auto ISO because when I shoot in manual I want to change the exposure manually and if auto ISO is on (although by changing aperture and shutter speed I actually do change the exposure) it will compensate for the changes in exposure and give an image of the same brightness. This is not what I want as I don't use thech EC so whenever the EC is needed I switch to manual.
First I am not a pro let alone a seasoned pro so I... (show quote)

The Canon 7D Mark II and Canon 80D allow you to perform EC in manual mode with auto ISO. I think the new Canon 1Dx Mark II does also and probably the new 5D Mark IV. . You're not a Canon shooter, but it resolves the issue you mentioned.

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Dec 13, 2016 04:27:07   #
DOOK Loc: Maclean, Australia
 
I do all the time--works great.

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Dec 13, 2016 04:54:22   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Maik, Auto ISO is an indispensable tool for some shooting situations.
Contrary to what you may read, auto ISO is NOT some random ISO that the camera just decides to throw in. Auto ISO, in certain noisy shooting situations allows you to reduce noise while still maintaining other perameters of your shot.
Auto ISO will allow you to control noise and get shots in some circumstances that are not possible in ANY other mode. Manual is extremely limited except when the conditions aren't changing.
If you're doing landscape and chasing bugs, by all means, use everything manual.
But if your doing fast paced action in changing light and shooting like a demon, manual will lose you a LOT of shots.
In any mode with manual(set) ISO, where some shots would need ISO 6400 and other shots only require ISO 1000, with manual ISO you have no choice but to use 6400, the highest common denominator of ISO, and EVERY shot will be noisy as all get-out, when maybe 1/2 of those could have been shot with an ISO of say 1600, which would make for a very clean shot. With an ISO of of 6400, you are left trying to salvage every shot in post with a possibly time consuming noise reduction program.
I'd rather spend my time shooting than being forced to use a mop and broom all night!!!
Know your camera, know it's modes and WHICH combination will give the best results.
I did it just like everybody else in the old days but I gave up the old horse and buggy techniques years ago.
Especially if your making some money with your camera, time is money! I don't care how GOOD cameras get, go above the native ISO, and you start to get noise!!
If this post is still going when I get home tonight, I'll post two pics that would have been impossible with a fixed ISO.
SS
Maik, Auto ISO is an indispensable tool for some s... (show quote)


These are two shots that would have been virtually impossible to have taken on Manual. I took nearly a thousand shots that night!!! The auto ISO is an extremely useful mode in a situation like this. To much movement to shoot slow ss or Aperture Priority(already wide open) and not enough time to adjust ISO settings.
Though these are taken about a minute apart, but they could have been taken 5 seconds apart with the same result.
Both are at ss 200 and wide open at f1.4.
The tight shot is at ISO 3200 and the full shot at ISO 500.
That's about 3 1/2 stops. Either the ISO has to change or the speed has to drop to about 1/30th! Some of these shots were at 6400, that would be 1/15th ss.
This is the perfect situation for Auto ISO...., dark, quickly changing lights and fast action. Hope this example helps!
SS

ISO 3200
ISO 3200...

ISO 500
ISO 500...

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Dec 13, 2016 06:33:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Maik723 wrote:
Just getting a feel for this......... How many of you seasoned pros shoot in manual mode with auto ISO???? And,,,,,,if so, are results successful? If indoors, do you use flash in manual mode with auto ISO and get desired results?


I set my ISO - generally to 100 - and shoot in Aperture Mode.

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Dec 13, 2016 07:48:34   #
NikonKnight Loc: Owings Mills, MD
 
I agree with a SharpShooter for all the same reasons. I find auto ISO, using manual mode, helpful when shooting in fast paced situations and environments. My cameras (D4, D5) handle high ISO extremely well and I have gotten outstanding IQ results way beyond the native ISO.

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