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USS Zumwalt arrives at home port
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Dec 9, 2016 12:19:37   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
http://newatlas.com/zumwalt-homeport-arrival/46868/?

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Dec 9, 2016 14:00:29   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
I wonder what a sailor needs to do to get assigned to this one?

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Dec 9, 2016 16:45:45   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
jim quist wrote:
I wonder what a sailor needs to do to get assigned to this one?


Good question.

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Dec 10, 2016 11:10:52   #
FL Streetrodder
 
Sure is a departure from previous designs!

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Dec 10, 2016 12:09:11   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
FL Streetrodder wrote:
Sure is a departure from previous designs!


Sure is. Quite unique and signs of the things to come!

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Dec 10, 2016 14:46:48   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
It lost propulsion going through the Panama Canal. Originally, 32 Zumwalt class destroyers were going to be built, but it has been cut back to 3. One of the problems has been the skyrocketing cost of the rail gun ammunition.

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Dec 10, 2016 15:27:17   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
I worked under the Admiral he was a great man, he listened to everyone he even sat in the mess with us at times. He himself gave me a few assignments. I liked him and would follow him anytime.
bcheary wrote:
http://newatlas.com/zumwalt-homeport-arrival/46868/?

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Dec 10, 2016 16:42:41   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
Cool, no from a landlubber a simple question, that I am positive someone can answer, what is the difference between a Destroyer and a Battleship? Is it mostly size, when does a Destroyer become a Battleship

I was on the USS New Jersey in Seattle's Seafest or whatever they called it in the 80's. I was curious why the deck was made of wood, so I asked one one the sailors why, the answer he gave me kinda shocked me but after thinking about it for a while it made perfect sense, his response was if the ship was to fire a full broadside with all 9 guns the ship would collapse inside itself.

I know the New Jersey is decommissioned but could it be brought back into service if needed
Swede

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Dec 10, 2016 17:47:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Swede wrote:
Cool, no from a landlubber a simple question, that I am positive someone can answer, what is the difference between a Destroyer and a Battleship? Is it mostly size, when does a Destroyer become a Battleship

I was on the USS New Jersey in Seattle's Seafest or whatever they called it in the 80's. I was curious why the deck was made of wood, so I asked one one the sailors why, the answer he gave me kinda shocked me but after thinking about it for a while it made perfect sense, his response was if the ship was to fire a full broadside with all 9 guns the ship would collapse inside itself.

I know the New Jersey is decommissioned but could it be brought back into service if needed
Swede
Cool, no from a landlubber a simple question, that... (show quote)


It would be interesting to know as I believe they were decommissioned previously and recommissioned in 1984 when the existing cruisers were worn out under the Reagan presidency. If they have not been gutted and everything is there I would imagine they could be. Of course they were in the mothball fleet and not museums when brought back to active duty.

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Dec 10, 2016 18:49:34   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast, maneuverable long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet, convoy or battle group and defend them against smaller powerful short-range attackers. Battleships were the big brutes with the big guns that could heave long shells as far as 18-20 miles inland. During the Pacific War, especially, they were used to soften up islands before they were invaded along with airstrikes. Today, their job has been replaced by the planes which can fly off the decks of carriers and cruise missiles.

One disadvantage of metal decks was that iron decks were very slippery. Even though sand was used on wooden decks during engagements to prevent slipping when the decks were wet with seawater, rainwater, or blood, sand didn't make much difference, or made it worse on iron plated decks. At the time, there weren't any special adhesives or paints like are used on modern vessels. (non-skid paint for instance on carrier decks)

Another danger of iron decks was that in the mid to late 19th century, surface combatants still used muzzle loading and a few breech loading cannon and guns. There was a certain danger of static discharge associated with a metal deck. At least one ship was severely damaged due to an explosion at a gun mount. It was blamed on static discharge

Another complaint was the fact that the iron deck got extremely hot, to the extent that the gun deck (immediately below the weather deck or spar) was unbearable.

That was all corrected by putting a thick layer of wood, usually teak for its rot resistance qualities, over the iron deck or deck frames. The U.S. Navy kept up that tradition for nearly 80 years, with the last four battleships being the last commissioned vessels with teak decks.

Teak decks were cleaned with a piece of sandstone nicknamed a 'holystone' for the position of the scrubber on his knees.

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Dec 10, 2016 18:55:18   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
terry44 wrote:
I worked under the Admiral he was a great man, he listened to everyone he even sat in the mess with us at times. He himself gave me a few assignments. I liked him and would follow him anytime.



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Dec 10, 2016 19:37:51   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SteveR wrote:
In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast, maneuverable long-endurance warship intended to escort larger vessels in a fleet, convoy or battle group and defend them against smaller powerful short-range attackers. Battleships were the big brutes with the big guns that could heave long shells as far as 18-20 miles inland. During the Pacific War, especially, they were used to soften up islands before they were invaded along with airstrikes. Today, their job has been replaced by the planes which can fly off the decks of carriers and cruise missiles.

One disadvantage of metal decks was that iron decks were very slippery. Even though sand was used on wooden decks during engagements to prevent slipping when the decks were wet with seawater, rainwater, or blood, sand didn't make much difference, or made it worse on iron plated decks. At the time, there weren't any special adhesives or paints like are used on modern vessels. (non-skid paint for instance on carrier decks)

Another danger of iron decks was that in the mid to late 19th century, surface combatants still used muzzle loading and a few breech loading cannon and guns. There was a certain danger of static discharge associated with a metal deck. At least one ship was severely damaged due to an explosion at a gun mount. It was blamed on static discharge

Another complaint was the fact that the iron deck got extremely hot, to the extent that the gun deck (immediately below the weather deck or spar) was unbearable.

That was all corrected by putting a thick layer of wood, usually teak for its rot resistance qualities, over the iron deck or deck frames. The U.S. Navy kept up that tradition for nearly 80 years, with the last four battleships being the last commissioned vessels with teak decks.

Teak decks were cleaned with a piece of sandstone nicknamed a 'holystone' for the position of the scrubber on his knees.
In naval terminology, a destroyer is a fast, maneu... (show quote)


Interesting.
I also notice they have done away with the clipper bow and gone to the pattern of the late 19th early 20th century for the bow.

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Dec 10, 2016 20:47:29   #
stonecherub Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
SteveR wrote:
Teak decks were cleaned with a piece of sandstone nicknamed a 'holystone' for the position of the scrubber on his knees.


Although my Navy service was in P2s and P3s, I know a little about battleships. The "holystone" was a "holey-stone," a doughnut-shaped piece of sandstone. A four foot handle fit in the hole allowing the sailor to move it back and forth over the wooden deck, re-sanding it. The sailors were not on their knees but standing, bent over. Here's a link:

http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/VIDEOS/USS_Missouri_holystoning.html

Large ships carrying large guns were once called "Monitors," after an American Navy ship that fought an inconclusive battle during our first civil war and sank in a Cape Hatteras storm.

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Dec 10, 2016 21:47:59   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Interesting.
I also notice they have done away with the clipper bow and gone to the pattern of the late 19th early 20th century for the bow.
For years the primary consideration in warships was a hull that would create minimal drag. From the text, reducing whatever disturbances would make the ship easy to locate is the new primary consideration; I know absolutely nothing about hull design, so I don't know what, if any, connection there is between the two considerations.

Of course, we know nothing about what it looks like below the water line.

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Dec 11, 2016 20:23:53   #
tsca Loc: USA
 
jim quist wrote:
I wonder what a sailor needs to do to get assigned to this one?


A cool name can't hurt. Did anyone else notice that the Commanding Officer is Capt. James A. Kirk!

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