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May 26, 2012 21:22:53   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
Just practicing with my Sigma 150-500 and this wonderful bird came to to help me out. Any suggestions and/or comments appreciated.





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May 26, 2012 21:45:52   #
OKalphaxi Loc: Guthrie, OK
 
Clicker2014 wrote:
Just practicing with my Sigma 150-500 and this wonderful bird came to to help me out. Any suggestions and/or comments appreciated.


WOW these are BEautiful. Thank you for sharing these great shots.
OKalphaxi

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May 26, 2012 21:47:34   #
annemarie Loc: N.W. NJ
 
Gorgeous!. Looks like fur, not feathers!

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May 26, 2012 21:48:39   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is just a little out of focus on the top photo. The back of the bird looks well focused and the tail goes out again. In the future, use single point AF and place it on the birds eye. The first thing people look at in a bird photo is the eye. Other things can be out of focus but the eye must be in focus. You have a very shallow depth of field here and I'm assuming you were shooting wide open. It would be difficult to have everything in focus. What were your settings?

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May 26, 2012 22:05:31   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
OKalphaxi wrote:
Clicker2014 wrote:
Just practicing with my Sigma 150-500 and this wonderful bird came to to help me out. Any suggestions and/or comments appreciated.


WOW these are BEautiful. Thank you for sharing these great shots.
OKalphaxi


Thanks you!

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May 26, 2012 22:06:40   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
annemarie wrote:
Gorgeous!. Looks like fur, not feathers!


Thanks you! Greatly appreciated. I too am amazed at the texture of their feathers :-)

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May 26, 2012 22:13:10   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
birdpix wrote:
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is just a little out of focus on the top photo. The back of the bird looks well focused and the tail goes out again. In the future, use single point AF and place it on the birds eye. The first thing people look at in a bird photo is the eye. Other things can be out of focus but the eye must be in focus. You have a very shallow depth of field here and I'm assuming you were shooting wide open. It would be difficult to have everything in focus. What were your settings?
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is j... (show quote)


Hi
I did use the single point, but this guy was moving a bit quick for me. I try very hard to focus on the eye, but don't always manage to achieve it :-( My settings were 1/64, F6.3, ISO 400, 313mm I am always thinking I need to use the largest DOF to separate the background ....perhaps I need to rethink?? I am also afraid to get too much noise in my pictures. Let me know what you would do. He was probably 20-25 feet from me and in a dark pine tree. I did open up the shadows a bit in PP. Thanks for your assistance.

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May 26, 2012 22:22:57   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
Clicker2014 wrote:
birdpix wrote:
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is just a little out of focus on the top photo. The back of the bird looks well focused and the tail goes out again. In the future, use single point AF and place it on the birds eye. The first thing people look at in a bird photo is the eye. Other things can be out of focus but the eye must be in focus. You have a very shallow depth of field here and I'm assuming you were shooting wide open. It would be difficult to have everything in focus. What were your settings?
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is j... (show quote)


Hi
I did use the single point, but this guy was moving a bit quick for me. I try very hard to focus on the eye, but don't always manage to achieve it :-( My settings were 1/64, F6.3, ISO 400, 313mm I am always thinking I need to use the largest DOF to separate the background ....perhaps I need to rethink?? I am also afraid to get too much noise in my pictures. Let me know what you would do. He was probably 20-25 feet from me and in a dark pine tree. I did open up the shadows a bit in PP. Thanks for your assistance.
quote=birdpix Pretty neat photos. It does look li... (show quote)


Everything is always a trade off and sometimes we are between a rock and a hard place. A shutter speed of 1/64 is quite slow for birds and that may be the reason that the birds heads are out of focus...they moved on you. If you were handholding at 1/64 you did a great job of holding it steady. Did you use IS or were you on a tripod? What is the largest opening on your lens at that zoom? Were you as wide as you can go? Have you ever shot at ISO 800? Sorry to ask so many questions but I am trying to get a handle on it for you.

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May 26, 2012 22:31:26   #
edct Loc: Connecticut
 
Beautiful photos! My father carves birds and the Cedar Waxwing is one of his favorites.

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May 27, 2012 16:02:32   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
birdpix wrote:
Clicker2014 wrote:
birdpix wrote:
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is just a little out of focus on the top photo. The back of the bird looks well focused and the tail goes out again. In the future, use single point AF and place it on the birds eye. The first thing people look at in a bird photo is the eye. Other things can be out of focus but the eye must be in focus. You have a very shallow depth of field here and I'm assuming you were shooting wide open. It would be difficult to have everything in focus. What were your settings?
Pretty neat photos. It does look like the eye is j... (show quote)


Hi
I did use the single point, but this guy was moving a bit quick for me. I try very hard to focus on the eye, but don't always manage to achieve it :-( My settings were 1/64, F6.3, ISO 400, 313mm I am always thinking I need to use the largest DOF to separate the background ....perhaps I need to rethink?? I am also afraid to get too much noise in my pictures. Let me know what you would do. He was probably 20-25 feet from me and in a dark pine tree. I did open up the shadows a bit in PP. Thanks for your assistance.
quote=birdpix Pretty neat photos. It does look li... (show quote)


Everything is always a trade off and sometimes we are between a rock and a hard place. A shutter speed of 1/64 is quite slow for birds and that may be the reason that the birds heads are out of focus...they moved on you. If you were handholding at 1/64 you did a great job of holding it steady. Did you use IS or were you on a tripod? What is the largest opening on your lens at that zoom? Were you as wide as you can go? Have you ever shot at ISO 800? Sorry to ask so many questions but I am trying to get a handle on it for you.
quote=Clicker2014 quote=birdpix Pretty neat phot... (show quote)


I agree 100% re shutter speed. I think I had been playing with it and could not get it any faster at the time...(or got excited and forgot to look!) Ditto the F-stop - I probably could have improved on that too. I do know I had been playing with all settings and when I changed one or the other I lost a great deal of exposure. I can't seem to remember quickly enough how to compensate when making one of the changes...sigh...I do a lot of reading on the subject, but it doesn't sink in or gets lost in there and I can't pull it out! grrrrrrr (my son says... grey - blonde ...what's the difference....I say...do you want to stay in the inheritance?) ;-)
I was using a tripod and breaking my neck trying to get it at the right angel! LOL.

I truly appreciate your feedback! Thanks!

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May 27, 2012 16:03:22   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
edct wrote:
Beautiful photos! My father carves birds and the Cedar Waxwing is one of his favorites.

Thanks...greatly appreciated. :-)

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May 28, 2012 08:43:13   #
Turbo Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Those are GREAT pix !

thank you for sharing them

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May 28, 2012 09:25:21   #
jadeast Loc: Virginia
 
After reading all the input you've gotten. I notice one thing that doesn't appear is your EV which to me is as important as any other facto in knowing what is taking place at the time the shutter was released. I try to shoot just about everything at least ev-1 and more often ev-2 . I feel I get better saturation and in a case like yours I would wind up with a much faster shutter speed. a good way to give yourself some "presets" without a lot of fumbling with your camera is to preset "P" with ev-1, tv with ev-1=1/3, av with ev-1-2/3 or whatever is good for you in your situation. That way there's no fumbling just switch from your favorite "auto" to one of your presets as the lighting changes. I have 3 Manual options on my camera that I load with presets that allows me to shoot full manual in similar situations

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May 28, 2012 09:40:55   #
Turbo Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
jadeast wrote:
After reading all the input you've gotten. I notice one thing that doesn't appear is your EV which to me is as important as any other facto in knowing what is taking place at the time the shutter was released. I try to shoot just about everything at least ev-1 and more often ev-2 . I feel I get better saturation and in a case like yours I would wind up with a much faster shutter speed. a good way to give yourself some "presets" without a lot of fumbling with your camera is to preset "P" with ev-1, tv with ev-1=1/3, av with ev-1-2/3 or whatever is good for you in your situation. That way there's no fumbling just switch from your favorite "auto" to one of your presets as the lighting changes. I have 3 Manual options on my camera that I load with presets that allows me to shoot full manual in similar situations
After reading all the input you've gotten. I notic... (show quote)


Not a bad idea !

You don't want to have to adjust your camera, sometimes in the dark, and fumble around for ever when a great shot presents itself.

Doing the homework beforehand makes life so much more enjoyable.

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May 28, 2012 10:25:26   #
belle44 Loc: Maine
 
Very nice! Don't you love how they look like paintings and not pictures? I don't know what it is about Cedar Waxwings, but I have a few that I've taken that look like paintings as well - and every pic I see of them looks that way. I've never seen another bird that photoraphs like that.

Love them! :thumbup:

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