neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

jenny Loc: in hiding:)

Much ado about nothing. Many of us have struggled with the waterline, both in photographs
and ...I remember a particularly frustrating watercolor once as well. My take on this picture is
that in the dawn's early light it looks immediately like a painting rather than a photograph.
That is appropriate anywhere, anytime.
A lot of "atmosphere" here with the light.
Distant land features never have to be straight, but we have a lot of "straight" folks on the forum.
When we straighten a horizon we may tilt the trees, the people may stumble, the drink get
spilled. Forget it. I am familiar with the place Neil often goes to here and what is in the distance
but he shouldn't have to explain it. Might wish for a sailboat instead, laf, but think this is a beautifully
colored painting in the subtle light of dawn. As for da bird, there you go again Neil, he might be a
bit sharp for the rest of the scene but that's okay because he is closer. BUT, how in aitch is a
shadow BENEATH him going to come from when the light is not ABOVE him but on the horizon?
"Making fake birds" is one thing, but messing with the direction of light is contrary to anything sensible.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

Thank you for the kind comments, Jenny. You must have missed some of the preceding discussion, that is NOT a shadow beneath the bird, but it IS it's reflection on the waters surface. There is no way there will be a shadow under existing circumstances. The same image that produced the bird also produced the reflection.

jenny Loc: in hiding:)

It's a DARK bird though! are you telling me the UNDER side of the bird is white?
DARK things ABSORB light WHITE/LIGHT things reflect light....I'm not screaming here
just trying to emphasize the difference.
If the under side of the bird is white,(unlikely), it is not lit by the light of dawn, nor
by the water which isn't very light either.
Are you trying to, "tell me black is white", or drive me nuts??
So .....a lot of joking recently about "making birds" that aren't there, just teasing
and all in jest, but I don't think any you made were in this situation. What good
sense may be missing in my view that makes it impossible to accept the explanation
of a reflection?

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

??????????????? Jenny, the reflection is as black as the bird. Did your monitor get switched from positive to negative?

jenny Loc: in hiding:)

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Yuh can't have a "black reflection" on a lighter surface, dat's a shadow!
Reflections are light things that show up on darker things.
Youse definitely, as da kids say, "blowing my mind" !!

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

Jenny, I guess if it's possible to "straighten" something that isn't crooked, it's possible for a black cat to have no reflection.

jenny Loc: in hiding:)

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Well I always usedta say enthusiastically, "With photography, ANYTHING is possible!!" and that
was in film days. Sometimes illusion is everything isn't it. It can make or break things.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA