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Nov 19, 2016 14:56:57   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
...but not in the way you probably thought .

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Nov 19, 2016 15:47:50   #
pfrancke Loc: cold Maine
 
sinking into bog? Makes you wonder what all else is down there.

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Nov 19, 2016 16:04:37   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
pfrancke wrote:
sinking into bog? Makes you wonder what all else is down there.


Thanks for commenting, Piet. The ground's a bit boggy, but what's causing the boat to disappear is that it's getting overgrown year after year. New plant growth takes root in the decaying remains of previous generations of plant growth, and over time the vegetation builds up and gradually buries stuff that doesn't move quick enough. It's how peat bogs gradually build up. Plus there's the fact that the boat itself is decaying due to being almost constantly wet. The boat was abandoned in a corner that would see constant vegetation growth. If it had been abandoned on a rocky part of the shore it would just rot away above ground.

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Nov 19, 2016 16:43:18   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
An engaging image, R.G.! I like the wider view for a good sense of the boat's location. Also, a great time of year to photograph this subject as the bare trees add to the feeling of time marching on and soon this boat will be just a memory.

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Nov 19, 2016 17:32:56   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
An engaging image, R.G.! I like the wider view for a good sense of the boat's location. Also, a great time of year to photograph this subject as the bare trees add to the feeling of time marching on and soon this boat will be just a memory.


That's a good point about the time of year. If the trees hadn't been bare we would be seeing even less of the boat. I'm glad I was able to include a glimpse of the loch because it's where the boat would have spent most if not all of its active years.

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Nov 19, 2016 23:31:05   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
Enjoyable photo R.G. seems quite painterly to me.

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Nov 20, 2016 00:37:18   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
R.G. wrote:
...but not in the way you probably thought .

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This is a very good scene - mountains, clouds, lake, fall leaves, a decaying old boat all sprung loose, really wonderful white-bark trees. I find myself wishing the boat weren't slipping off the edge of the frame, and I am bothered by what looks like a lack of detail in some of the brights - the ferns on the near left, and the distant trees. I wonder if the detail might be there in the original file (if raw, there's a good chance). I have this trouble with fall leaves in bright sun, and a polarizer does help though not always sufficiently. I often end up underexposing to fight it off. For me, the scene is so engaging, I just want a bit more from it.

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Nov 20, 2016 06:33:53   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
Nice scene with the faults already pointed out by min. Not sure of your access to this but not desperately keen on he composition with the boat so close to the edge.

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Nov 20, 2016 07:22:52   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
minniev wrote:
This is a very good scene - mountains, clouds, lake, fall leaves, a decaying old boat all sprung loose, really wonderful white-bark trees. I find myself wishing the boat weren't slipping off the edge of the frame, and I am bothered by what looks like a lack of detail in some of the brights - the ferns on the near left, and the distant trees. I wonder if the detail might be there in the original file (if raw, there's a good chance). I have this trouble with fall leaves in bright sun, and a polarizer does help though not always sufficiently. I often end up underexposing to fight it off. For me, the scene is so engaging, I just want a bit more from it.
This is a very good scene - mountains, clouds, lak... (show quote)


Thanks for the thought-provoking comments, Minniev. I think you're right about the softness in some of the brighter areas. The scene consisted of a very dark foreground and a very bright background, and it took a lot of pushing and pulling to get it to where it is now. I've noticed before that when there's extensive, prolonged editing involved I start to suffer from editor fatigue, which means that I'll stop seeing things that I should be noticing, or I'll notice them and decide that they're acceptable the way they are when they should really get more work done on them. To fix what you pointed out would involve getting more contrast in those areas, specifically at the bright end of the luminosity scale. Doing that with just the the adjustments brush would be tricky, and the alternative would be to juggle local adjustments with global adjustments (involving mainly Whites), carefully keeping an eye on what the global adjustments were doing to the rest of the scene. That process would be greatly helped if the Whites and Blacks adjustments were available when using the Adjustments brush, but unfortunately that's not the case. Where the distant soft trees are concerned, I think the softness is due to the fact that it's small leaf foliage that's uniformly coloured.

The area to the right of the boat was very dark and plain, so I was in no hurry to include more of it. I'm happy with the composition as it is because it's not just about the boat. I'm quite happy to have the viewer's eye drawn to the distant loch because it's part of the story.

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Nov 20, 2016 07:25:15   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Billyspad wrote:
Nice scene with the faults already pointed out by min. Not sure of your access to this but not desperately keen on he composition with the boat so close to the edge.


Thanks for the comments, Billy. As I said to Minniev, there wasn't anything of interest to the right of the boat, and I was happy to give equal prominence to the foreground and the background. I also like the angle that I got on the boat.

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Nov 20, 2016 09:33:42   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Frank2013 wrote:
Enjoyable photo R.G. seems quite painterly to me.


Oops! Nearly missed you, Frank. Thanks for commenting. I agree - that sort of scene is very reminiscent of the sort of thing that painters liked portraying in days gone by.

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Nov 20, 2016 15:13:47   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
R.G. wrote:
...but not in the way you probably thought .

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Good one. I was looking furiously at the lake for your boat and figured I got to the party too late and it had already sank! Then I saw it sinking into the ground. Ya, got me.
Erich

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Nov 20, 2016 15:24:24   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
ebrunner wrote:
Good one. I was looking furiously at the lake for your boat and figured I got to the party too late and it had already sank! Then I saw it sinking into the ground. Ya, got me.
Erich


I'm glad it sneaked up on you, Erich. Maybe I should have titled it just "Sinking".

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Nov 21, 2016 12:19:01   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
minniev wrote:
.......I am bothered by what looks like a lack of detail in some of the brights - the ferns on the near left, and the distant trees........


Had a go at alleviating that shortcoming. Adding Clarity and Contrast seemed to help a bit but left the darks a bit too pronounced. Killing the highlights tended to leave those areas a bit on the dark side, and lightening them brought the problem back. Lightroom's Highlights slider just stops working after a few passes and trying to find a workaround can be a bit fiddly. This is about as far as I feel inclined to take it just now (other things in life demanding my attention).

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Nov 21, 2016 17:14:27   #
jenny Loc: in hiding:)
 
Makes me wish it could tell its story, wonder how old it is, and who left it there.

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