60D Fash Issuel
May 23, 2012 18:52:49 #
My 60D may have a mind of its own. Either that or there is a problem with its wireless flash or its operator's knowledge (mine). The problem is:
I set up the wireless flash per page 139 in the instruction manual. When set up that way, my understanding is that only the external flash should fire. However, as it turns out, both the flip up flash and external fire simultaneously. Should they both fire? The flash is a Metz 48-AF1, but I don't think that should have any bearing on this matter. I followed the instructions exactly as per the manual.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this double flash occurs, if it is operator error or perhaps an issue with the 60D?
I set up the wireless flash per page 139 in the instruction manual. When set up that way, my understanding is that only the external flash should fire. However, as it turns out, both the flip up flash and external fire simultaneously. Should they both fire? The flash is a Metz 48-AF1, but I don't think that should have any bearing on this matter. I followed the instructions exactly as per the manual.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this double flash occurs, if it is operator error or perhaps an issue with the 60D?
May 24, 2012 01:35:15 #
danielb59 wrote:
My 60D may have a mind of its own. Either that or... (show quote)
Seems like a problem that should have a simple fix. But I have never run into it before. No, I certainly would not expect the "internal" flash to fire when there is one mounted to the hot shoe. Are your exposures good when this happens?
I suspect that the 60D is not recognizing your Metz 48-AF1 is there and/or that it can work with Canon's ETTL.
Suggest you borrow a Canon flash (friend, camera shop, etc.) and see if the problem still occurs. If it does, then you will at least know there is something in the camera causing this (physical problem or software set-up).
BTW: Whenever I use my Metz (an older model) I use it remotely powered by a radio control (PocketWizard Transceiver Plus II). My older model Metz has a higher trigger voltage which can damage the Canon.
May 24, 2012 01:45:21 #
Does your Metz have interchangeable bases; if so, is the base the correct one for your camera?
Are you using "Program" mode? If so, go to "Auto".
What options do you have in your menu for flash operation?
Could your Metz be triggering your on-board flash?
Are you using "Program" mode? If so, go to "Auto".
What options do you have in your menu for flash operation?
Could your Metz be triggering your on-board flash?
May 24, 2012 05:33:01 #
dbmaxwell
Loc: Mogadore, Ohio
The 60D uses the built in flash as the wireless connection to fire the external flash. It isn't as full a flash as when it's used as a regular flash.
Manual isn't that explicit on that point but other books I've read talked about it.
Manual isn't that explicit on that point but other books I've read talked about it.
danielb59 wrote:
My 60D may have a mind of its own. Either that or... (show quote)
May 24, 2012 07:21:18 #
To use the camera to fire the flash remotely the on camera flash must be activated. It will fire a very small flash of light which is what triggers the slave flash. This is normal for this camera.
May 24, 2012 07:38:57 #
I'm surprised to see that PocketWizard is based in Burlington, VT. That's good. I don't supposed their prodcuts are made there, are they?
May 24, 2012 12:01:22 #
The on camera flash triggers the wireless flash. The output of the on camera flash is reduced and will not effect the picture.
May 24, 2012 13:12:09 #
Thanks all for the info. I did not realize that the on-camera flash was weakened and that caused the off-camera flash to fire. I feel better now.
Dan
Dan
May 24, 2012 13:18:43 #
Aren't you glad you asked?
danielb59 wrote:
Thanks all for the info. I did not realize that the on-camera flash was weakened and that caused the off-camera flash to fire. I feel better now.
Dan
Dan
May 24, 2012 14:10:48 #
jeep_daddy wrote:
Aren't you glad you asked?
danielb59 wrote:
Thanks all for the info. I did not realize that the on-camera flash was weakened and that caused the off-camera flash to fire. I feel better now.
Dan
Dan
From what I've heard and read, it seems like flash units are a more complicated area than DSLRs. Between camera settings, flash settings, and multiple flashes, there are too many variables.
May 25, 2012 16:04:22 #
jerryc41 wrote:
From what I've heard and read, it seems like flash units are a more complicated area than DSLRs. Between camera settings, flash settings, and multiple flashes, there are too many variables.
jeep_daddy wrote:
Aren't you glad you asked?
danielb59 wrote:
Thanks all for the info. I did not realize that the on-camera flash was weakened and that caused the off-camera flash to fire. I feel better now.
Dan
Dan
From what I've heard and read, it seems like flash units are a more complicated area than DSLRs. Between camera settings, flash settings, and multiple flashes, there are too many variables.
Sure! Any time you add more equipment to the equation, it complicates the process. Although most new ETTL strobes really are simple and automatic. I'm no expert on lighting, but I know that lighting with artificial light is a whole new ballgame. It's not so much getting to know the strobe, although it helps to know your equipment, it's knowing how direct, defuse, soften, back light, bounce, and a host of many other things that are done with artificial lighting.
May 25, 2012 16:25:32 #
From page 139:
"The camera's built in flash can function as a master unit with Canon Speedlights having a wireless slave function."
So..yes. It's doing what it's supposed to.
"The camera's built in flash can function as a master unit with Canon Speedlights having a wireless slave function."
So..yes. It's doing what it's supposed to.
May 25, 2012 16:54:42 #
May 25, 2012 23:01:58 #
Blurryeyed wrote:
His video explains the 60D and remote flash setup perfectly.
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