comparing 2 cameras for zoom range
Oct 29, 2016 19:21:42 #
jliane
Loc: Washington state
I have 2 cameras on my radar--Nikon B700 (crop sensor, 60x zoom) and Nikon DL24-500mm (1" sensor; coming in December). The B700 is available now. Each has a feature(s) I prefer over the other (nothing is perfect, as usual).
I am wondering if a cropped photo on the Nikon DL that looks as close as a non-cropped photo on the B700 will have potentially as good IQ, given my ability to hold the camera steady without a tripod for wildlife,birds. I do plan to wait for reviews on both cameras before making a decision. The DL is twice as expensive as the B700, but I like the idea of a 1" sensor, but not at the expense of being able to zoom in closely.
I will appreciate your input and hope I stated my question clearly enough to understand.
Thanks
I am wondering if a cropped photo on the Nikon DL that looks as close as a non-cropped photo on the B700 will have potentially as good IQ, given my ability to hold the camera steady without a tripod for wildlife,birds. I do plan to wait for reviews on both cameras before making a decision. The DL is twice as expensive as the B700, but I like the idea of a 1" sensor, but not at the expense of being able to zoom in closely.
I will appreciate your input and hope I stated my question clearly enough to understand.
Thanks
Oct 29, 2016 19:47:55 #
jliane wrote:
I have 2 cameras on my radar--Nikon B700 (crop sen... (show quote)
Actually both of those have sensors considerably smaller than a Full Frame. That is how they get such a great zoom range.
B700 6.2 mm X 4.6 mm
DL 13.2 mm X 8.8 mm
DX 24 mm X 16 mm (this is the size of the Nikon DX or crop sensor dslr's)
FF 36 mm X 24 mm (this more or less the industry standard for full frame dslr's, give or take a tiny fraction of a mm)
Oct 29, 2016 20:18:47 #
jliane wrote:
I have 2 cameras on my radar--Nikon B700 (crop sen... (show quote)
In my experienced opinion, I believe with the 1 inch sensor, you could comfortably approach a 2X cropping with equal image quality - that would give the 1 inch camera a 24-1000mm equiv. or approx. a 40X zoom - still less the the 60X you are quoting for the B700 though - again, IMO. The 1 inch would also have a slight noise advantage in lower light - and the lens on the 1 inch is PROBABLY of a higher quality ( including lower f-stop) - for whatever that might be worth ?
But here is the kicker, you will NOT be able to hand hold either and expect a quality result !
Oct 29, 2016 21:48:06 #
First and foremost...
Check if a camera has a digital zoom in addition to the optical zoom, if so, take it out of your list.
A digital zoom 'extension' creates a weird digital virtual reality.
Check if a camera has a digital zoom in addition to the optical zoom, if so, take it out of your list.
A digital zoom 'extension' creates a weird digital virtual reality.
Oct 30, 2016 08:38:00 #
Oct 30, 2016 16:31:45 #
jliane
Loc: Washington state
Rongnongno wrote:
First and foremost...
Check if a camera has a digital zoom in addition to the optical zoom, if so, take it out of your list.
A digital zoom 'extension' creates a weird digital virtual reality.
Check if a camera has a digital zoom in addition to the optical zoom, if so, take it out of your list.
A digital zoom 'extension' creates a weird digital virtual reality.
Pardon my ignorance but Does that apply if I never use the digital zoom.
Oct 30, 2016 18:38:34 #
jliane wrote:
Pardon my ignorance but Does that apply if I never use the digital zoom.
no.
Oct 30, 2016 19:26:33 #
jliane wrote:
Pardon my ignorance but Does that apply if I never use the digital zoom.
Nope.
Some camera allow you to disable the digital zoom as it is easy to go over the optical when you are caught in the moment.
Oct 30, 2016 20:06:12 #
Oct 31, 2016 08:48:08 #
robertjerl wrote:
Actually both of those have sensors considerably smaller than a Full Frame. That is how they get such a great zoom range.
B700 6.2 mm X 4.6 mm
DL 13.2 mm X 8.8 mm
DX 24 mm X 16 mm (this is the size of the Nikon DX or crop sensor dslr's)
FF 36 mm X 24 mm (this more or less the industry standard for full frame dslr's, give or take a tiny fraction of a mm)
B700 6.2 mm X 4.6 mm
DL 13.2 mm X 8.8 mm
DX 24 mm X 16 mm (this is the size of the Nikon DX or crop sensor dslr's)
FF 36 mm X 24 mm (this more or less the industry standard for full frame dslr's, give or take a tiny fraction of a mm)
The great zoom range comes at the expense of high ISO capability. That means slower shutter speeds so unsharp images.
Note the B700 sensor is 1/2 the linear size of the DL one inch sensor: 1/4 the area. Thus you can roughly expect 4 stops less equivalent ISO performance.
You might want to look for cameras with a Micro 4/3 sensor. It's about twice the area of the one inch sensor.
Oct 31, 2016 15:47:40 #
Nov 2, 2016 08:53:18 #
Take a look. http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon-Coolpix-B700-vs-Nikon-DL24-500/detailed
Hopefully there is enough info to help you with your consideration.
Hopefully there is enough info to help you with your consideration.
Nov 2, 2016 15:38:16 #
jliane
Loc: Washington state
Thank you--hadn't check that site. Still deciding but that certainly helps.
Nov 2, 2016 16:22:14 #
It's difficult to say unless you do a test with each camera. My guess is that if you take a picture using the B700 at maximum zoom and then using the DL also at max zoom range and then crop it to show the same view as the one taken with the B700. The image from the B700 is better and that's my guess.
Nov 3, 2016 21:46:26 #
jliane
Loc: Washington state
Thank you. That's what I think too, but I will need a tripod at full zoom for sure.
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