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Evangelists or anyone else who still support the T guy????
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Oct 8, 2016 21:09:04   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Wow! The T thing was right, he can murder someone and get away with it.

'Leading evangelist support the "t-boner"'. What freaking bible are they reading? What the hell are they smoking, drinking, eating or injecting themselves with??????

How about you 'christians' who support the T thing.... Would you like this thing near your wives daughters, grand daughters?

Would you still v**e for this trash if her speaking of his 'conquest' was one of them???

If you say yes to one and no to the other your are hypocrite.
If you yes to both your d********g.
If you scream no to both, at the very least you have some decency left in you. Good for you.

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Oct 8, 2016 21:36:08   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
Would you want this "Thing" to be near your wives daughters, grand daughters?
Would you still v**e for his wife if he tried this with one of them?
If his wife is elected president will he be the "First Thing"?


http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/305664/old-video-surfaces-of-bill-clinton-groping-a-flight-attendant/

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Oct 8, 2016 21:56:30   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Wow! The T thing was right, he can murder someone and get away with it.

'Leading evangelist support the "t-boner"'. What freaking bible are they reading? What the hell are they smoking, drinking, eating or injecting themselves with??????

How about you 'christians' who support the T thing.... Would you like this thing near your wives daughters, grand daughters?

Would you still v**e for this trash if her speaking of his 'conquest' was one of them???

If you say yes to one and no to the other your are hypocrite.
If you yes to both your d********g.
If you scream no to both, at the very least you have some decency left in you. Good for you.
Wow! The T thing was right, he can murder someone... (show quote)


We have no idea who you're talking about. I will not v**e for Trump, but neither will I v**e for somebody who has had lesbian affairs while married. I'm looking for some kind of miracle to keep both of them out of the White House.....like, say, the 168 removing Trump as the Republican standard bearer and replacing him with Pence....which can still be done. However, Ron, who are you talking about? Source please.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/

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Oct 8, 2016 23:06:45   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Typical T'ist supporter that try to deflect the blame...

H is a lesbian (new one to me) also during 70s, if you recall (unless you have an addled brain), there was a 'free for all' attitude that led to the 'sexual liberation and other excess including drugs.

As to diverting the 'blame' toward H husband, well, sorry, it does not wash. She was not the one foundling a male flight attendant and calling him a boy toy she can have anytime because she the governor's wife.

You two need to get a grip to wh**ever is going on.

That you v**e for neither is understandable in my opinion and I will never blame you for that, based on ideology (gop vs democrat). Both choices are bad.

My wife made an interesting observation tonight... She said that when Obama was elected it was a hope that the X generation was taking over. Now we are back to the 'boomers' with all their ills and well practiced lies and shenanigans.

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Oct 8, 2016 23:16:56   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I asked for the name of the evangelist and your source. It would be good to know when the endorsement was given. For instance, was it given on Tuesday prior to when this latest revelation was made on Friday?

As far as Hillary being an adulterous d**e.....there was a time when that would matter. In 1988, Gary Hart's (D) P**********l campaign was stopped in its tracks when it was revealed that he was having an affair with Donna Rice while separated from his wife.

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Oct 8, 2016 23:30:47   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
SteveR wrote:
.../...In 1988, Gary Hart's (D) P**********l campaign was stopped in its tracks when it was revealed that he was having an affair with Donna Rice while separated from his wife.

Two decades later and not to mention hypocrisy again... Separated from his wife? Really? Are not couples playing that game all the time?

This does not wash.

My source? Read UPI, Reuters, BBC... Evangelist are now split. 'Honest ones' bailed out w/o endorsing anyone the other are aligning themselves with the T guy.

Reality has a way to bite back when one tries to change it.

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Oct 8, 2016 23:36:21   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Two decades later and not to mention hypocrisy again... Separated from his wife? Really? Are not couples playing that game all the time?

This does not wash.

My source? Read UPI, Reuters, BBC... Evangelist are now split. 'Honest ones' bailed out w/o endorsing anyone the other are aligning themselves with the T guy.

Reality has a way to bite back when one tries to change it.


So....just provide a link, since you brought it up. Anybody honest would have to withdraw their endorsement of Trump and move for a very quick dump Trump move. Also, there is the write-in option. I'm waiting for the miracle that will keep both of them out of the White House.

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Oct 9, 2016 00:05:21   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Your insistence for me to provide links that can be found everywhere show the weakness of your argumentation. You are basically hoping that I can site a web site you happen to disagree with.

Do your own research so that you can see by yourself and be able to see that is not 'made-up' of a 'dubious source' which, once again is your only hope.

To invoke 'honesty' is a farce and reflects your incertitude. Blame the messenger as being 'dishonest' for not wanting to go through hoops may work with some folks. It does not with me. Using your own 'honesty' so called 'challenge', why don't you have the guts to research a bit and find out more?

Speaking of guts, I forgot to post something....

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Oct 9, 2016 00:11:30   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
SteveR wrote:
We have no idea who you're talking about. I will not v**e for Trump, but neither will I v**e for somebody who has had lesbian affairs while married. I'm looking for some kind of miracle to keep both of them out of the White House.....like, say, the 168 removing Trump as the Republican standard bearer and replacing him with Pence....which can still be done. However, Ron, who are you talking about? Source please.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/yoko-ono-i-had-an-affair-with-hillary-clinton-in-the-70s/
We have no idea who you're talking about. I will ... (show quote)


Pence has absolutely no chance. No one knows him but Hoosiers, and they h**e him.

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Oct 9, 2016 00:42:07   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Your insistence for me to provide links that can be found everywhere show the weakness of your argumentation. You are basically hoping that I can site a web site you happen to disagree with.

Do your own research so that you can see by yourself and be able to see that is not 'made-up' of a 'dubious source' which, once again is your only hope.

To invoke 'honesty' is a farce and reflects your incertitude. Blame the messenger as being 'dishonest' for not wanting to go through hoops may work with some folks. It does not with me. Using your own 'honesty' so called 'challenge', why don't you have the guts to research a bit and find out more?

Speaking of guts, I forgot to post something....
Your insistence for me to provide links that can b... (show quote)


If you make a statement you need to be able to back it up. I'm not going to research your assertions. Since you can't or won't back up what you're talking about I can only assume that it's coming from your own imagination. Even middle school papers require annotation, which is nothing more than what I'm requesting. Without it, anything you assert can and will be assumed as bogus.

Without knowing WHO specifically you are talking about and WHEN they gave their endorsement to Trump, it is impossible to make an evaluation of that endorsement. Was the endorsement made before or after the revelation that came out Friday? Everything is contextual, so without knowing the answers to these questions an honest evaluation cannot be made.

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Oct 9, 2016 03:10:32   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
SteveR wrote:
If you make a statement you need to be able to back it up. I'm not going to research your assertions. Since you can't or won't back up what you're talking about I can only assume that it's coming from your own imagination. Even middle school papers require annotation, which is nothing more than what I'm requesting. Without it, anything you assert can and will be assumed as bogus.

Without knowing WHO specifically you are talking about and WHEN they gave their endorsement to Trump, it is impossible to make an evaluation of that endorsement. Was the endorsement made before or after the revelation that came out Friday? Everything is contextual, so without knowing the answers to these questions an honest evaluation cannot be made.
If you make a statement you need to be able to bac... (show quote)


‘Still the best candidate’: Some evangelicals still back Trump despite lewd video
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/08/still-the-best-candidate-some-evangelicals-still-back-trump-despite-lewd-video/

And just in case you dismiss the Washington post as "liberal crap trap" or wh**ever bs 'shoot the messenger' you might attempt, here is your beloved Fox News reporting the same thing:

Evangelical Leaders Denounce, Stand By Trump in Wake of Lewd Tape
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/08/evangelical-preachers-graham-reed-jeffress-donald-trump-lewd-remarks-clinton

Really, Steve. It isn't that hard to type into google, "evengelicals still support Trump". It took only a few seconds to find these links.

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Oct 9, 2016 04:24:50   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Keenan wrote:
‘Still the best candidate’: Some evangelicals still back Trump despite lewd video
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/08/still-the-best-candidate-some-evangelicals-still-back-trump-despite-lewd-video/

And just in case you dismiss the Washington post as "liberal crap trap" or wh**ever bs 'shoot the messenger' you might attempt, here is your beloved Fox News reporting the same thing:

Evangelical Leaders Denounce, Stand By Trump in Wake of Lewd Tape
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/10/08/evangelical-preachers-graham-reed-jeffress-donald-trump-lewd-remarks-clinton

Really, Steve. It isn't that hard to type into google, "evengelicals still support Trump". It took only a few seconds to find these links.
b ‘Still the best candidate’: Some evangelicals s... (show quote)


Why should I have to do the O.P.'s work for him? I provide my sources when I post. I learned it in jr. hi. Rongongrio stated "leading evangelist" (singular). I wanted to know who in particular he was talking about.

As far as why evangelicals are hesitant to dump Trump despite his serious flaws, Dr. Jeffress in your first link said it best, "“To say Trump’s comments disqualify him from being president assumes that Hillary Clinton is more moral than Donald Trump." That one really makes you sit back and pause to think.

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Oct 9, 2016 04:30:57   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
SteveR wrote:
Why should I have to do the O.P.'s work for him? I provide my sources when I post. I learned it in jr. hi.

As far as why evangelicals are hesitant to dump Trump despite his serious flaws, Dr. Jeffress in your first link said it best, "“To say Trump’s comments disqualify him from being president assumes that Hillary Clinton is more moral than Donald Trump." That one really makes you sit back and pause to think.


If you actually have a hard time figuring out who is more morally depraved - Trump or Clinton - then you are in serious denial. Trump is the most dangerous and thin skinned candidate ever nominated for POTUS. He is unhinged and a clinical sociopath/psychopath, an egomaniac, a compulsive liar, a charlatan with the impulse control of a grease fire, and a rapist who glorifies sexual assault and hitting on married women, s**mming everyone who does business with him, etc. It should be obvious to any honest human being at this point that Trump is orders of magnitude worse then Clinton when it comes to moral depravity and dishonesty. It isn't even close. If that really makes you sit back and pause to think, then your brain isn't working to well.

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Oct 9, 2016 04:48:10   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Rapist?

I do think that Clinton matches or exceeds Trump for moral depravity and dishonesty. Should Congress go to the Democrats as a result of all of this and she become President, there will be a landslide of liberal agenda bills that will flow through Congress. The appointment of left-wing judges will have its impact for decades. I can only hope that the Republicans can retain control of Congress which will limit how far she can spread her liberal agenda in four years. I'm still hoping for my miracle....that neither one of them will make the White House.

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Oct 9, 2016 04:57:42   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
SteveR wrote:
Rapist?

I do think that Clinton matches or exceeds Trump for moral depravity and dishonesty. Should Congress go to the Democrats as a result of all of this and she become President, there will be a landslide of liberal agenda bills that will flow through Congress. The appointment of left-wing judges will have its impact for decades. I can only hope that the Republicans can retain control of Congress which will limit how far she can spread her liberal agenda in four years. I'm still hoping for my miracle....that neither one of them will make the White House.
Rapist? br br I do think that Clinton matches ... (show quote)


If you still maintain that Clinton matches or exceeds Trump in moral depravity and dishonesty, then you are not honest with yourself. I can't even reach you at this point when you are so far removed from reality. It is futile for me to keep trying to have a rational discussion with someone who is so willfully blind to reality. Good luck with your alt-bubble reality.

Bye now...

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