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May 23, 2012 14:57:14   #
wtompkins Loc: Northern Michigan
 
birdpix wrote:
Here are a few tips on photographing Hummingbirds:
1. You will need a shutter speed of at least 1/2000 sec to shoot hummers. This will not always stop the wings but a little wing blur is OK.
2. You do not need tremendous depth of field if your camera focuses fast enough. You do not need to shoot wide open but f/5.6 to 8.0 is plenty. Shoot at whatever ISO is needed to get these settings. In bright sun you will be around 400-800
3. Have your camera set to tracking focus. On Canon cameras that is AI Servo-AF. I don’t know Nikon or Sony or Olympus.
4. Hummingbirds will get used to having humans around. You can get them acclimated by standing or sitting quietly nearby but far enough away for them to be comfortable. Over the course of days you can gradually get closer and closer.
5. Place the feeder in a location that gets full sun, if possible. If the feeder has multiple feeding ports then use a piece of tape to cover the ones on the back side so they have to come to the front or side to feed. Use a feeder without perches or you will never get flight shots. They don’t need them and don’t have them when they are feeding at flowers anyway. If you have more than one feeder, take them all down but their most popular one.
6. Set up a chair or stool with your camera on a tripod. You can cover yourself with a light blanket or sheet to hide your human outline. In fact, if you can leave the chair with the sheet and the tripod out for a few days the Hummers will get used to it and won’t notice when you are in it.
7. When Hummers feed, they come into a flower or feeder and pause 6-12 inches away from the flower. They feed for a few seconds and back off to hover for a few seconds before going in to sip some more nectar, repeating this several times before flying off. It is when they are in this hover mode that they are most easily photographed in flight. You have to be quick, though, because they will not be there for more than a few seconds. Have your lens pre focused at about that distance so auto focus does not need to hunt before locking on. Use continuous shooting mode and take lots of frames…they’re cheap enough. Use a single point for auto focus. When the bird comes in to feed, place the focus point on the bird’s head, half press the shutter button to initiate Auto Focus and then gently fire away!
8. Hummers will return to a feeder every 15 to 45 minutes during the day. They need to feed very frequently. In between visits to your feeder they are probably making the rounds to all the neighborhood feeders. If they have young in a nest nearby they will come even more frequently. Be patient. The pace also picks up near the end of the day.
9. Hummers often perch on a nearby twig in the open after feeding. They may stay there for 5-10 minutes while they digest your meal. If you can find the perch, you can get some great shots of them in a more natural setting rather than on the feeder.
10. Above all, have patience and respect the birds by not pressuring them too much and scaring them away. Get as close as you reasonably can to get a respectable amount of the frame filled. You don’t need to completely fill the frame as that makes it more difficult to find the bird with a long lens. Since you are shooting at relatively high ISOs, this helps keep image noise at a minimum.
11. Flash photography is a whole other animal that would require high speed synch mode. If anyone want some info on it get in touch with me.


That is a Black-headed Grosbeak
Here are a few tips on photographing Hummingbirds:... (show quote)


Great tips; thanks for sharing!

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Jun 1, 2012 02:18:33   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
bkyser wrote:
I've used flash to stop the motion very effectively. The hummingbirds get skiddish and leave, but come right back. My issue is getting the auto focus to work when I'm firing remotely. Hundreds of shots to get one or two that are just acceptable. I love hummingbirds, but they are making me lose my hair.

I solved the auto focus problem I struck. Take a look at:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-36117-1.html "Timing...." You won't get the flash to fire at that speed if you use rapid shooting (does it do that on very low power?) but you'll solve the focus problem and use the flash for a single shot.

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Jun 1, 2012 21:23:46   #
chessam Loc: NorthCentral PA
 
birdpix wrote:
Here are a few tips on photographing Hummingbirds:
1. You will need a shutter speed of at least 1/2000 sec to shoot hummers. This will not always stop the wings but a little wing blur is OK.
2. You do not need tremendous depth of field if your camera focuses fast enough. You do not need to shoot wide open but f/5.6 to 8.0 is plenty. Shoot at whatever ISO is needed to get these settings. In bright sun you will be around 400-800
3. Have your camera set to tracking focus. On Canon cameras that is AI Servo-AF. I don’t know Nikon or Sony or Olympus.
4. Hummingbirds will get used to having humans around. You can get them acclimated by standing or sitting quietly nearby but far enough away for them to be comfortable. Over the course of days you can gradually get closer and closer.
5. Place the feeder in a location that gets full sun, if possible. If the feeder has multiple feeding ports then use a piece of tape to cover the ones on the back side so they have to come to the front or side to feed. Use a feeder without perches or you will never get flight shots. They don’t need them and don’t have them when they are feeding at flowers anyway. If you have more than one feeder, take them all down but their most popular one.
6. Set up a chair or stool with your camera on a tripod. You can cover yourself with a light blanket or sheet to hide your human outline. In fact, if you can leave the chair with the sheet and the tripod out for a few days the Hummers will get used to it and won’t notice when you are in it.
7. When Hummers feed, they come into a flower or feeder and pause 6-12 inches away from the flower. They feed for a few seconds and back off to hover for a few seconds before going in to sip some more nectar, repeating this several times before flying off. It is when they are in this hover mode that they are most easily photographed in flight. You have to be quick, though, because they will not be there for more than a few seconds. Have your lens pre focused at about that distance so auto focus does not need to hunt before locking on. Use continuous shooting mode and take lots of frames…they’re cheap enough. Use a single point for auto focus. When the bird comes in to feed, place the focus point on the bird’s head, half press the shutter button to initiate Auto Focus and then gently fire away!
8. Hummers will return to a feeder every 15 to 45 minutes during the day. They need to feed very frequently. In between visits to your feeder they are probably making the rounds to all the neighborhood feeders. If they have young in a nest nearby they will come even more frequently. Be patient. The pace also picks up near the end of the day.
9. Hummers often perch on a nearby twig in the open after feeding. They may stay there for 5-10 minutes while they digest your meal. If you can find the perch, you can get some great shots of them in a more natural setting rather than on the feeder.
10. Above all, have patience and respect the birds by not pressuring them too much and scaring them away. Get as close as you reasonably can to get a respectable amount of the frame filled. You don’t need to completely fill the frame as that makes it more difficult to find the bird with a long lens. Since you are shooting at relatively high ISOs, this helps keep image noise at a minimum.
11. Flash photography is a whole other animal that would require high speed synch mode. If anyone want some info on it get in touch with me.


That is a Black-headed Grosbeak
Here are a few tips on photographing Hummingbirds:... (show quote)


Thanks for the advice and WOW to your picture! If I could only get one almost that good...

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Jun 5, 2012 00:49:34   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
serrota65 wrote:
Please post your hummers here if you like.
Typical Typical stats for the following images: Hand-held Nikon D5000 at ISO 1000, with Nikkor 55-200 zoom at 200-mm, 1/2000-sec at f/8, mid-morning full sun, directly behind photographer.

Allen's Hummingbird (Selasphorus sasin), female #1
Allen's Hummingbird (Selasphorus sasin), female #1...

Allen's Hummingbird (Selasphorus sasin), female #2
Allen's Hummingbird (Selasphorus sasin), female #2...

Anna's Hummingbird, male #1
Anna's Hummingbird, male #1...

Anna's Hummingbird, male #2
Anna's Hummingbird, male #2...

Allen's Hummingbird, female #3
Allen's Hummingbird, female #3...

Allen's Hummingbird, female #4
Allen's Hummingbird, female #4...

Allen's Hummingbird, female #5
Allen's Hummingbird, female #5...

Allen's Hummingbird, female #6
Allen's Hummingbird, female #6...

Black-chinned Hummingbird, male #1
Black-chinned Hummingbird, male #1...

Allen's Hummingbird, female #7
Allen's Hummingbird, female #7...

Allen's Hummingbird, female #8
Allen's Hummingbird, female #8...

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Jun 5, 2012 04:27:17   #
glojo Loc: South Devon, England
 
What amazing pictures and DEFINITELY an example of when a fast shutter speed can freeze the motions of those wings.

I had to call my wife to look at these beautiful images.

I have never seen a humming bird and I'm curious as to how close you can get to take these types of picture? :thumbup:

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Jun 6, 2012 10:17:24   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
serrota65 wrote:
Please post your hummers here if you like.
Typical Typical stats for the following images: Hand-held Nikon D5000 at ISO 1000, with Nikkor 55-200 zoom at 200-mm, 1/2000-sec at f/8, mid-morning full sun, directly behind photographer.


Nikonian72: Well done! Beautiful photos! I am jealous that you have so many varieties to shoot. On the East Coast we only have the Ruby-throated as regular breeders and only a rare visit from some of their west coast cousins. Again, beautiful and thanks for sharing.

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Jun 6, 2012 12:52:31   #
Country's Mama Loc: Michigan
 
As usual wonderful shots.

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Aug 5, 2012 06:40:29   #
annie blossum Loc: USA
 
Country's Mama wrote:
Go to your menu-wrench-remote on duration. I can set my D3000 to 15 min. If nothing happens in say 14 min just shoot a picture and you have another 15 min.


That's what I go for. My small olympus goes off after no activity in about 5 or so mins. So I take shots just to keep the camera on.

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Aug 5, 2012 14:40:17   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
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Aug 12, 2012 03:32:23   #
bullfrogs Loc: Chico, Calif.
 
Thanks for the tips and tricks on Hummers.
I want to share one I didn't see you comment about.
Use a Scarecrow in a chair near where the Hummers congregate, then when you want to take photos, you take the place of the ScareCrow and they have already become acclimated to someone being in the chair and pay little attention until you move.
Bullfrogs

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Aug 12, 2012 21:42:57   #
annie blossum Loc: USA
 
Douglas,
I have a Nikon D80 camera with a 70-300 MM Sigma DG lens. The lens can be set to normal or macro 200-300. For hummers what should I use M S or A or should I go back to Auto. Also I can get my cardinal flower in focus but not the hummer. I have the ISO set to 1600 or sometimes H3. Shooting in manual everything lines up to get a great exposure but with hummingbirds I'm not seeing that. I don't have trouble getting close to them about 8 or 10' away.

Is there anything I can do to get the higher speeds.

Here is the cardinal flower but I must have deleted the hummers at the flower because they were out of focus.
Here is the cardinal flower but I must have delete...

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Aug 12, 2012 22:26:20   #
gordnanaimo Loc: Vancouver Island
 
humming birds never get tired. Flash syncros stop the action quite well

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Aug 13, 2012 20:43:44   #
ShooterOR
 
Very nice, Douglas! Or as you say: "Not too shabby!"

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Aug 14, 2012 04:09:55   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
serrota65 wrote:
OK, I'll try with a flash next time. Meanwhile, here's my lastest, which I think is an improvement, including what I believe is a Grosbeak, through a closed window. Please post your hummers here if you like.

bkyser wrote:
I've used flash to stop the motion very effectively. The hummingbirds get skiddish and leave, but come right back. My issue is getting the auto focus to work when I'm firing remotely. Hundreds of shots to get one or two that are just acceptable. I love hummingbirds, but they are making me lose my hair.
OK, I'll try with a flash next time. Meanwhile, he... (show quote)


Much better! Great shots... I am jealous... :thumbup:

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Aug 14, 2012 04:14:59   #
Clicker2014 Loc: Canada
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
serrota65 wrote:
Please post your hummers here if you like.
Typical Typical stats for the following images: Hand-held Nikon D5000 at ISO 1000, with Nikkor 55-200 zoom at 200-mm, 1/2000-sec at f/8, mid-morning full sun, directly behind photographer.


Oh My!...Now I am REALLY jealous... Fabulous, fabulours shots! Something to strive for. Hmmmm let's see...4:15 a.m... 2 1/2 hours before sunrise...guess I have time to get my gear ready.. ;-)

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