U.S. Department of Justice Slaps Baltimore Police Over Right to Record Issue
May 19, 2012 00:19:22 #
Thoughts?
http://www.pixiq.com/article/department-of-justice-slaps-baltimore-pd
"As far as I know, this is the first time the federal government has drafted guidelines to a local police department on this issue. The most extensive out of all the general orders Ive read from police departments over the years."
"Heres a portion I know you guys are going to love:
Members of the press and members of the general public enjoy the same rights in any area accessible to the general public.
No individual is required to display press credentials in order to exercise his/her right to observe, photograph, or video record police activity taking place in an area accessible to, or within view of, the general public."
http://www.pixiq.com/article/department-of-justice-slaps-baltimore-pd
"As far as I know, this is the first time the federal government has drafted guidelines to a local police department on this issue. The most extensive out of all the general orders Ive read from police departments over the years."
"Heres a portion I know you guys are going to love:
Members of the press and members of the general public enjoy the same rights in any area accessible to the general public.
No individual is required to display press credentials in order to exercise his/her right to observe, photograph, or video record police activity taking place in an area accessible to, or within view of, the general public."
May 19, 2012 00:40:36 #
St3v3M wrote:
Thoughts? br br http://www.pixiq.com/article/depa... (show quote)
This is great, but it still doesn't stop the police from charging you with loitering. Which is what they did to get this pot of hot water boiling in the first place.
May 19, 2012 01:05:06 #
May 19, 2012 18:23:07 #
Just make sure you have some money in your pocket and walk from one side of road to the other as you are not loitering then. Just rying to get to other side and stopped long enough to take a picture.LOL
May 19, 2012 20:04:21 #
St3v3M wrote:
Thoughts? br br http://www.pixiq.com/article/depa... (show quote)
:thumbup: That's great St3v3M, thanks for sharing. :thumbup:
May 19, 2012 22:43:58 #
On another site that I am on for fire photography, there is a link to the whole lette from the Department of Justice to the Balitmore P.D. It is 11 pages long and from what I am hearing and seeing, it may go nation wide.
May 20, 2012 00:27:53 #
photo guy wrote:
On another site that I am on for fire photography, there is a link to the whole lette from the Department of Justice to the Balitmore P.D. It is 11 pages long and from what I am hearing and seeing, it may go nation wide.
Let's hope so. Thanks
May 20, 2012 07:30:03 #
The letter is so powerful (read it) that loitering in this context would be thrown out in a suit against the police. This is good news for photographers.
May 20, 2012 08:47:48 #
St3v3M wrote:
Thoughts? br br http://www.pixiq.com/article/depa... (show quote)
As a firefighter that is trained in investigation and does sometimes. I don't mind the cameras being around most of the time. As long as the photographer is out of harms way and is respectful of both the incident and of the people involved. Pesonanally I do not want to see my dead relative on a social website. Or see any type of recognizable image of them on the news either. However, to capture a news worthy image and to have it destroyed just because I can. Is not right and I think that the justice department has been receiving more and more complaints about this. I'm glad that they are addressing this. Thanks for the post St3v3m. Very nice of you to post this
Blake
May 20, 2012 11:28:51 #
St3v3M wrote:
Thoughts? br br http://www.pixiq.com/article/depa... (show quote)
It is about time something happened contrary to the mad right wing direction of American jurisprudence. Although not related to photography, the Indiana State Supreme Court ruled that a citizen does not have the right to resist an "unlawful" police entry into his home. "Unlawful" is a euphemism for illegal. In other words, if the criminal is a cop, the citizen has to absorb the abuse, then attempt to recoup justice in a court of law.
May 20, 2012 12:33:22 #
Concur.
Even though, it was directed toward Baltimore PD, it is a precedent case, all the same.
I will make note of the case name & number, and burn it to memory.
And, about the loitering charges, I wonder, how they (cops) based their decision that this was the case, and it makes me wonder, what criteria loitering is based upon.
Aside from the fact, it's just some trumped up nonsense government uses, to push people along, they don't want to be somewhere.
What is the legal definition of "loitering"?
Anyone??
Even though, it was directed toward Baltimore PD, it is a precedent case, all the same.
I will make note of the case name & number, and burn it to memory.
And, about the loitering charges, I wonder, how they (cops) based their decision that this was the case, and it makes me wonder, what criteria loitering is based upon.
Aside from the fact, it's just some trumped up nonsense government uses, to push people along, they don't want to be somewhere.
What is the legal definition of "loitering"?
Anyone??
May 20, 2012 12:46:51 #
But the question in South Texas is, is a police action or a home invasion? Any one can get a police uniform.
May 20, 2012 13:21:24 #
This article was interesting reading, thank you. But my eyes caught hold of the article about the Kelly Thomas beating by police officers (I use that term loosely) of the Fullerton PD. The video in that article was a bit more than I was prepared for on this Sunday morning. Shocking. Those guys (all of them, even the ones not "officially" charged) deserve prison time. Getting back to the issue of photographing in public, anything is fair game out in the open, but you must be ready to "pay the piper" when you do. Human nature always prevails. And SOME people in uniform abuse their power. Not just Police Officers, happens in the military, too. Heck, someone don't even wear a uniform, a company name tag is enough for some. It's just human nature.
May 20, 2012 14:03:38 #
http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/perspectives-of-a-street-photographer/
Here's another article about Street Photography. Street Photography + Persisitence = Priceless Photos.
Here's another article about Street Photography. Street Photography + Persisitence = Priceless Photos.
May 20, 2012 20:59:51 #
jrlatham4567 wrote:
But the question in South Texas is, is a police action or a home invasion? Any one can get a police uniform.
Not since 9/11. There are knock off but the real McCoy no
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