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Sep 21, 2016 20:18:11   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Let's do some math using CDC numbers



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Sep 21, 2016 20:27:31   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 

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Sep 21, 2016 21:12:19   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
Those gang related homicides what will happen to those numbers if you are caught in the cross fire like that gal was pushing a stroller. Will you be counted as gang related?

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Sep 21, 2016 21:37:27   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Well, you can drive that huey right up your ass, because your breathless "statistics" are meaningless.

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Sep 21, 2016 21:54:44   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
No more meaningless than the verbal flatulence and crap Hillary and other Liberals are spewing.
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Well, you can drive that huey right up your ass, because your breathless "statistics" are meaningless.

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Sep 22, 2016 04:36:16   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Well, you can drive that huey right up your ass, because your breathless "statistics" are meaningless.


Like your so called logic?

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Sep 22, 2016 08:29:40   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Well, you can drive that huey right up your ass, because your breathless "statistics" are meaningless.


To you they are meaningless, because they don't support you progressive agenda, be honest.

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Feb 13, 2019 16:42:17   #
notmyrealname
 
Interesting argument. The use of small numbers was used to justify blocking Muslims from entering the USA - do you remember the poison jellybean and the question 'Would you eat one from a jar that had one poison jellybean?" Now the same small number argument is used to support gun ownership. To small to worry about it.

Just for information, the last CDC study of gun violence was done in 1996 when the NRA lobbied successfully to cut CDC funding to study gun violence.

So the "last year" reference from the meme refers to 1995 or maybe even 1994. But they used today's population to make the the proportion even smaller; they used 312MM instead of 249MM.

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Feb 14, 2019 06:52:35   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
notmyrealname wrote:
Interesting argument. The use of small numbers was used to justify blocking Muslims from entering the USA - do you remember the poison jellybean and the question 'Would you eat one from a jar that had one poison jellybean?" Now the same small number argument is used to support gun ownership. To small to worry about it.

Just for information, the last CDC study of gun violence was done in 1996 when the NRA lobbied successfully to cut CDC funding to study gun violence.

So the "last year" reference from the meme refers to 1995 or maybe even 1994. But they used today's population to make the the proportion even smaller; they used 312MM instead of 249MM.
Interesting argument. The use of small numbers wa... (show quote)


Here's the latest Firearm Homicides and Suicides report released by the CDC, released on November 9, 2018:

Firearm Homicides and Suicides in Major Metropolitan Areas — United States, 2012–2013 and 2015–2016

Firearm homicides and suicides represent a continuing public health concern in the United States. During 2015–2016, a total of 27,394 firearm homicides (including 3,224 [12%] among persons aged 10–19 years) and 44,955 firearm suicides (including 2,118 [5%] among persons aged 10–19 years) occurred among U.S. residents (1). This report updates an earlier report (2) that provided statistics on firearm homicides and suicides in major metropolitan areas during 2006–2007 and 2009–2010, and places continued emphasis on youths, in recognition of the importance of early prevention efforts. Firearm homicide and suicide rates were determined for the 50 most populous U.S. metropolitan statistical areas (MSAs)* during 2012–2013 and 2015–2016 using mortality data from the National Vital Statistics System (NVSS) and population data from the U.S. Census Bureau. In contrast to the earlier report, which indicated that firearm homicide rates among persons of all ages had been declining both nationally and in large MSAs overall, current findings show that rates have returned to levels comparable to those observed during 2006–2007. Consistent with the earlier report, these findings show that firearm suicide rates among persons aged ≥10 years have continued to increase, both nationally and in large MSAs overall. Although firearm suicide rates among youths remain notably lower than those among persons of all ages, youth rates have also increased both nationally and in large MSAs collectively. These findings can inform ongoing development and monitoring of strategies directed at reducing firearm-related violence.

NVSS mortality data for 2012–2013 and 2015–2016 were used to identify firearm homicides (International Classification of Diseases, 10th Revision [ICD-10] underlying cause codes X93–X95 and U01.4 [U.S. extension to ICD-10]) and firearm suicides (codes X72–X74) among U.S. residents. Firearm homicide and suicide counts were tabulated for county groupings forming the 50 largest MSAs (by population rank mid-year 2016).† Tabulated counts were integrated with U.S. Census Bureau population estimates for the counties forming these MSAs to calculate annual firearm homicide rates for persons of all ages and annual firearm suicide rates for persons aged ≥10 years (persons aged <10 years were excluded because intent for self-harm often is not attributed to young children). Rates were similarly calculated for youths aged 10–19 years. Rates among persons of all ages were age-adjusted to the year 2000 U.S. standard population. MSA-level data involving firearm homicide or suicide counts <20 are not reported separately because of concerns related to statistical reliability (stability) and data privacy. However, such data were included in the calculations for all large MSAs combined.

The rates of firearm homicide among persons of all ages during 2015–2016 varied widely among the 50 largest MSAs, ranging from 1.1 (Providence-Warwick) to 16.6 (New Orleans-Metairie) per 100,000 residents per year (Table). The rate for all large MSAs combined was 4.9, compared with a national rate of 4.4. This represents an increase from 2012–2013, when the rate for large MSAs combined was 4.1 and the national rate was 3.7. Between 2012–2013 and 2015–2016, firearm homicide rates increased for 43 (86%) of the 50 large MSAs considered individually. Among youths, the firearm homicide rate for large MSAs combined was 4.7 during 2015–2016, compared with a national rate of 3.9. Similar to rates among persons of all ages, this represents an increase from 2012–2013, when the rate for large MSAs combined was 4.3 and the national rate was 3.4. Males accounted for approximately 85% of firearm homicide victims (all ages) during both reporting periods, for the 50 largest MSAs combined as well as nationally.

Firearm suicide rates among persons of all ages during 2015–2016 also varied widely by large MSA, ranging from 1.5 (New York-Newark-Jersey City) to 13.5 (Oklahoma City) per 100,000 residents per year (Table). The rate for large MSAs combined was 5.8, compared with a national rate of 7.7, representing an increase from 2012–2013, when the rate for large MSAs combined was 5.6 and the national rate was 7.4. Firearm suicide rates among youths remained much lower than those among all persons aged ≥10 years. The rate for this age group for large MSAs combined was 1.9 during 2015–2016, compared with a national rate of 2.5. This also represents an increase from 2012–2013, when the rate for large MSAs combined was 1.5 and the national rate was 2.1. Similar to firearm homicides, males accounted for approximately 85% of firearm suicides (all ages) in both reporting periods, for the 50 largest MSAs combined and nationally.

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During 2015–2016, homicide was the 16th leading cause of death among persons of all ages in the United States and the third leading cause among youths aged 10–19 years; a firearm injury was the underlying cause of death in 74% of all homicides and in 87% of youth homicides (1). Previously observed decreases in firearm homicide rates have not continued, with more recent rates showing an increase both nationally and in large MSAs considered collectively. Firearm homicide rates among persons of all ages and among youths in the large MSAs overall have both remained higher than corresponding national rates.

During the same period, suicide was the 10th leading cause of death nationally among all persons aged ≥10 years and the second leading cause among youths; a firearm injury was the underlying cause of death in 50% of all suicides and in 42% of youth suicides (1). Previously observed increases in firearm suicide rates among persons of all ages continued in recent years, both nationally and in large MSAs collectively; youth firearm suicide rates also increased both nationally and in large MSAs overall. In contrast to firearm homicide rates, firearm suicide rates among persons of all ages and among youths in the large MSAs overall have both remained lower than corresponding national rates. This is consistent with previous research showing that rates of suicide, considering all causes, have been persistently lower in more urban areas than in less urban areas (3).

It is too soon to know whether recent increases in firearm homicide rates represent a short-term fluctuation or the beginning of a longer-term trend. From 2015 to 2016, violent crime increased 3.8% for the nation overall, 6.1% in cities with populations ≥250,000, 2.2% in suburban areas and 1.6% in nonmetropolitan counties,§ suggesting a short-term increase concentrated particularly in the core cities of metropolitan areas. Preventing firearm homicides can be a challenge for cities across the country; however, previous research has demonstrated that efforts to modify the physical and social environments in cities through abandoned building and vacant lot remediation, greening activities, street outreach and community norm change, low-income housing tax credits, and business improvement districts are significantly associated with reductions in gun assaults, youth homicide, and other violent crime (4).

In contrast to homicide rates, which began increasing only recently, rates of suicide in the United States have been gradually increasing over the past decade and a half, across states, population groups, and in rural and urban settings (3,5,6). Rates of firearm suicide, in particular, began increasing coincident with the economic downturn of 2007–2008 and have continued to increase, despite subsequent economic recovery. After declining 7% from 1999 to 2006, annual rates of firearm suicide increased 21% from 2006 to 2016 (from 6.5 to 7.8 per 100,000 residents aged ≥10 years) (1). Urban areas recovered more quickly from the economic downturn than did rural areas, but the continued increase in rates of firearm suicide in large MSAs suggests that multiple factors are involved, and that a combination of prevention approaches might be necessary to reduce risks. Efforts to strengthen household financial security; stabilize housing; teach youths coping and problem-solving sk**ls; identify and support persons at risk; and implement proactive prevention policies in schools, workplaces, and other organizational settings are associated with reductions in suicide, suicide attempts, and/or co-occurring risks such as substance abuse, depression, and social isolation (7).

Another factor likely affecting both firearm homicide and suicide is access to firearms by persons at risk for harming themselves or others. Previous studies have shown that the interval between deciding to act and attempting suicide can be as brief as 10 minutes or less, and that persons tend not to substitute a different method when a highly lethal method is unavailable or difficult to access (8,9). Reducing access to lethal means during an acute suicidal crisis by safely storing firearms or temporarily removing them from the home can help reduce suicide risk, particularly among youths (7). Preventing persons convicted of or under a restraining order for domestic violence from possessing a firearm has been associated with reductions in intimate partner-related homicide, including firearm homicide (10). Efforts to strengthen the background check system to better identify persons convicted of violent crimes or at risk for harming themselves or others might also prevent lethal firearm violence, although these policies need further study (10).

The findings in this report are subject to at least two limitations. First, although statistics on nonfatal injuries associated with firearm assault or self-harm might have strengthened the report, population-based nonfatal injury data are not available for MSAs. Second, and notwithstanding the intended focus on youth firearm violence, a more expansive analysis might have addressed firearm homicide and suicide rates for other age groups not separately considered in this report.

Understanding the patterns, characteristics, and impact of firearm violence is an important factor in preventing injuries and deaths. Ongoing tracking of firearm homicide and suicide rates at all geographic levels can provide important input for initiatives directed at reducing firearm-related violence.

All of the data tables can be found here on the CDC site:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6744a3.htm?s_cid=mm6744a3_w

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Feb 14, 2019 08:32:51   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Well, you can drive that huey right up your ass, because your breathless "statistics" are meaningless.


Why?

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Feb 14, 2019 10:33:55   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
There is another problem. The cry against gun violence is mostly about the AR 15. But the calls for illimanating " assault weapons' Ignores that more deaths are commited with Knives, blunt object, or hands and feet, than ALL long gujns put together. Here in CT. I can't buy a shotgun without a pistol permit. I am breaking the law by having old 22 bullets in an ammo box in my garage, as it's against Ct. law to posses ammo without a pistol permit.

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Feb 14, 2019 10:35:47   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
WE MUST BAN HANDS AND FEET!!!!

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Feb 14, 2019 12:18:57   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
LWW wrote:
WE MUST BAN HANDS AND FEET!!!!


Nah, We just need commonsense hand and foot control, perhaps background checks steel toe shoes and high heels capable of puncturing skin.

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