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Sep 17, 2016 12:44:21   #
davidk2020 Loc: San Diego
 
foathog wrote:
It's a champagne camera. If you're buying the best don't you want the best memory? are you now going to buy Sigma and Tamron lenses??? The battery situation I understand. Come on Canon, don't be SOOOOO GREEDY! A battery is a battery.

Except when they catch fire or explode when in use. I don't know that it's happened in any DSLR yet, but among other cellphones, Samsung is recalling its entire line of S7 Notebooks. Yeah, those were OEM batteries, but who wants to take a chance with Chinese counterfeits? (And for the poor reading comprehension crowd, "counterfeit" is not the same as "third-party.")

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Sep 17, 2016 13:21:01   #
dkguill Loc: Elkhart, IN
 
That's why I'm asking you experts in advance of buying so I can ID battery choices with a proven track record. Hogs with experience are a good resource in my opinion.

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Sep 17, 2016 14:18:46   #
Pkfish Loc: Wilson Wy
 
cosmo54 wrote:
Maybe its just me, and I'm probably going to regret saying this but. ......when I bought my 5Diii and 7Dii, I also bought extra Canon brand batteries. I figured after spending that much money, what was a few extra dollars? But like i said, thats just me.


Same here.

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Sep 17, 2016 14:37:31   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
davidk2020 wrote:
Except when they catch fire or explode when in use. I don't know that it's happened in any DSLR yet, but among other cellphones, Samsung is recalling its entire line of S7 Notebooks. Yeah, those were OEM batteries, but who wants to take a chance with Chinese counterfeits? (And for the poor reading comprehension crowd, "counterfeit" is not the same as "third-party.")

There are numerous reports of aftermarket batteries swelling and not being able to get them out of the camera.

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Sep 17, 2016 15:18:44   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
What an appreciative audience here. (Coughing to clear my throat), Gentlemen. I've been in DSLR photography since 2002, and since then I have learned a great deal. Some from reading, a lot in fact. Some from my own experience, as in good and not-so-good purchasing. In the category of DSLR batteries, I will always recommend you purchase the original manufacturers battery. I highly doubt that Canon or Nikon make their own batteries. But I'm very confident that they control the quality standards with those companies that actually do make their batteries. Bottom line: I would never buy batteries from other than the manufacturer of your camera, and I urge you to do the same thing. Spend a little more at night, and sleep better at night. As a disclaimer, I am stating this as my own personal experience.

PS: If you'd like some third party batteries I've purchased over the years, let me know, you can have them for free.

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Sep 17, 2016 16:26:15   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
elliott937 wrote:
What an appreciative audience here. (Coughing to clear my throat), Gentlemen. I've been in DSLR photography since 2002, and since then I have learned a great deal. Some from reading, a lot in fact. Some from my own experience, as in good and not-so-good purchasing. In the category of DSLR batteries, I will always recommend you purchase the original manufacturers battery. I highly doubt that Canon or Nikon make their own batteries. But I'm very confident that they control the quality standards with those companies that actually do make their batteries. Bottom line: I would never buy batteries from other than the manufacturer of your camera, and I urge you to do the same thing. Spend a little more at night, and sleep better at night. As a disclaimer, I am stating this as my own personal experience.

PS: If you'd like some third party batteries I've purchased over the years, let me know, you can have them for free.
What an appreciative audience here. (Coughing to ... (show quote)


Exactly my thoughts - not made by the camera manufacturer, but they're built to and QC'd to the manufacturers specs. I purchased a Canon LP6 and a Nikuri 3rd party battery (which was rated at 2200 mAH vs the Canon's 1800) with my 7D. Almost 4 years later, using the same batteries on my 5D3, the LP6 recharges fine and holds a charge, while the 3rd party battery not only doesn't hold a charge, but also prevents the camera from functioning when it prematurely discharges. I can't speak to the quality of other 3rd party brands such as Wasabi (which many recommend), but OEM for me from now on, despite their higher price.

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Sep 17, 2016 16:52:50   #
dkguill Loc: Elkhart, IN
 
I thank everyone for their thoughtful input in answering my questions. I expected strong opinions on the battery subject and I have heard from experienced hogs on both sides. I think I can proceed better informed from here on. Thanks too for your time.

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Oct 30, 2016 20:11:24   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
dkguill wrote:
I just recently received my new 5D Mark 4 and I'm enjoying getting acquainted with it. My initial impression is really VERY positive. I do have a question re using 3rd party batteries. It's no surprise that Canon is trying its best to make anything but a Canon battery uncomfortable. I noted that, when I insert one of my Vivitar batteries, I get the error message that says the camera can't communicate with the battery and it asks if the battery I have inserted says Canon on it. If you say no, it tells you the usual thing about not guaranteeing that the battery will work properly and it gives you the option to continue using it or not. If you continue, you find that the battery info in the menu will not operate, thus you can't see remaining capacity, shutter count, or recharge performance. Not a real big issue because the camera still functions as it should. The only other missing item is the little battery gauge that you normally see on the back and top screens is blanked out, so you have to wait until you run out of juice and the camera quits.

With the Vivitar batteries, I have always had excellent luck using them on 5D Mk 2, and my 7D Mk 2. Both provide normal information on the screens and there is no difference in performance. While it may be too early, I'm wondering if the Wasabi batteries that I see recommended so often on this forum have perhaps found a workaround for this issue, or if Canon has finally managed to make 3rd party choices irritating enough to force the purchase of Canon brands only for the 5D Mk 4.

Any recommendations, experiences, or solutions from those who may have gotten the 5D Mk 4 would be appreciated.

Another issue I discovered is that you apparently must use a pretty fast SD Pro memory card. I slipped in a Sony Class 10 card that only reads 40 MB/s and the camera locked up after shooting a few shots in succession. I switched to a Lexar 400X card and all was well again. This very nice camera seems to have champagne tastes and it balks at average speed cards. Not a complaint, just an observation that may help someone like me.
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Whats wrong with using Canons own batteries, they are not all that expensive? I have at least about 20 of them charged at all times, so I'm always ready to go!

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Oct 30, 2016 20:25:58   #
dkguill Loc: Elkhart, IN
 
speters wrote:
Whats wrong with using Canons own batteries, they are not all that expensive? I have at least about 20 of them charged at all times, so I'm always ready to go!


The fact is that some 3rd party batteries are of low quality and thus risky to use. There are some that are likely made by the same companies that supply Canon since it is clear that Canon contracts out the supply they sell under the Canon name. What's wrong with using the oem batteries is that , contrary to your evaluation that they are not all that expensive, the 3rd party batteries are approximately a third of the oem price or less. With that in mind, identifying a reliable alternative to one that says Canon on it can represent a significant savings with little or no risk for those of us on a fixed income and lacking the luck to have won the lottery. That's why the question was asked and answered.

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Nov 2, 2016 11:56:47   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
dkguill wrote:
The fact is that some 3rd party batteries are of low quality and thus risky to use. There are some that are likely made by the same companies that supply Canon since it is clear that Canon contracts out the supply they sell under the Canon name. What's wrong with using the oem batteries is that , contrary to your evaluation that they are not all that expensive, the 3rd party batteries are approximately a third of the oem price or less. With that in mind, identifying a reliable alternative to one that says Canon on it can represent a significant savings with little or no risk for those of us on a fixed income and lacking the luck to have won the lottery. That's why the question was asked and answered.
The fact is that some 3rd party batteries are of l... (show quote)

You must be talking about me, I'm on a fixed income, probably on a much tighter budget than most on this site!

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Nov 2, 2016 12:14:46   #
dkguill Loc: Elkhart, IN
 
Ah then, in that case we do find ourselves in the economy section. Those of us in the cheap seats have to find ways to cut corners where we can. I usually choose to buy proven quality at the best available price. If it says Kirkland on the package and it tastes good for less money, I'm inclined to give it a try. Thus, 18 year old Kirkland scotch, bottled by Glenlivet for 30% less is worthy of a try. If the battery performs well, gets good recommendations from people on UHH, and it costs less than the Canon battery, it too is worthy of a try. So far it works for me.

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