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Sep 16, 2016 18:24:50   #
jcboy3
 
Rich1939 wrote:
That's a pretty good list, I would add just a few more;
Abo Ruins Salinas National Monument East of Belen
Bosque del Apache National Wildlife Refuge On I25 just south of Socorro
If you're a fan of western history there's the town of Lincoln that is pretty much the same as when Billy the Kid hung out there.
(I beleive that should be the Brazos cliffs)


Yes, it should be. Automatic spell correction bites me again.

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Sep 17, 2016 01:02:36   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
go check the New Mexico web site and have them send you there packet full of photos and suggestions we live less than 100 miles from the New Mexico stae line off I/10, and go over quite a bit, silver city has many cabin and camping site all around it and they are a very fair price Gila Cliff Dwellings is awesome you will have so much area to shoot in your brain will get exhausted just trying to fit as many places in as you can, someone here said Mesa Verde in southwestern colorado if you can fit it in it is worth checking out, if you head into my area of Arizona, Sierra Vista pm me there's a lot around here to take in also. Have a safe trip and take it all in. Oh and welcome to our the Hog a great place to talk with some great folks
Carl D F wrote:
Fellow Hoggers, I have been reading the posts for a couple years, This is my first post. For background, I am 73 retired,been taking shots starting back in the film 120/620 days then graduated to Nikon 35mm. When Nikon went digital so did I. First Nikon digital was 6 meg pixels.
Ok the reason for my post is for help. The wife and I are going to New Mexico for 10 days in mid October. We are looking for sites to take pictures, really want to get some good shots of Indian ruins, cliff dwellings. I will be using my Nikon D7100 caring two lenses, Nikon AF-S 18-300mm 3.6-6.3 GED VR and a Tokina ATX PRO SD 11-16 F2.8 (IF) DX II. The wife ( A beginner ) will be using a Nikon D3200 E/W Nikon AFS 55-300 4.5-5.6 GED VR and a Nikon DX AFS 18-55mm 3.5-56 G VR. I think she will be using the available auto modes on the camera. We will have two tripods. We will be driving a 4x4 vehicle. Really appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks Carl
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Sep 17, 2016 06:19:09   #
Carlmk Loc: Naples, FL & Boston, MA
 
Recommend Las Alamos NM. Great museum (Bradbury Museum) on the history of the atomic bomb development.

NM Museum of Natural History, Albuquerque. Interesting section on personal computers. PC were started by a couple of UNM professors about 1975.

Santa Fe must be on list and Taos UN History site.

Also Carl

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Sep 17, 2016 07:26:35   #
andrec1 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
In Taos, make sure you go to Rio Grande Gorge bridge to see the big horn sheep alongside the road.

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Sep 17, 2016 07:44:13   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
Carl D F wrote:
Fellow Hoggers, I have been reading the posts for a couple years, This is my first post. For background, I am 73 retired,been taking shots starting back in the film 120/620 days then graduated to Nikon 35mm. When Nikon went digital so did I. First Nikon digital was 6 meg pixels.
Ok the reason for my post is for help. The wife and I are going to New Mexico for 10 days in mid October. We are looking for sites to take pictures, really want to get some good shots of Indian ruins, cliff dwellings. I will be using my Nikon D7100 caring two lenses, Nikon AF-S 18-300mm 3.6-6.3 GED VR and a Tokina ATX PRO SD 11-16 F2.8 (IF) DX II. The wife ( A beginner ) will be using a Nikon D3200 E/W Nikon AFS 55-300 4.5-5.6 GED VR and a Nikon DX AFS 18-55mm 3.5-56 G VR. I think she will be using the available auto modes on the camera. We will have two tripods. We will be driving a 4x4 vehicle. Really appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks Carl
Fellow Hoggers, I have been reading the posts for ... (show quote)

I don't know whether it is along your planned route, but one place you could consider is Bandelier National Monument, it's near Los Alamos and has some nice cliff dwellings.

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Sep 17, 2016 07:58:46   #
NorthPacific
 
[quote=Carl D F]Fellow Hoggers, I have been reading the posts for a couple years, This is my first post. For background, I am 73 retired,been taking shots starting back in the film 120/620 days then graduated to Nikon 35mm. When Nikon went digital so did I. First Nikon digital was 6 meg pixels.
Ok the reason for my post is for help. The wife and I are going to New Mexico for 10 days in mid October. We are looking for sites to take pictures, really want to get some good shots of Indian ruins, cliff dwellings. I will be using my Nikon D7100 caring two lenses, Nikon AF-S 18-300mm 3.6-6.3 GED VR and a Tokina ATX PRO SD 11-16 F2.8 (IF) DX II. The wife ( A beginner ) will be using a Nikon D3200 E/W Nikon AFS 55-300 4.5-5.6 GED VR and a Nikon DX AFS 18-55mm 3.5-56 G VR. I think she will be using the available auto modes on the camera. We will have two tripods. We will be driving a 4x4 vehicle. Really appreciate any help you can give.

Carl...

There are good suggestions below ..New Mexico like Utah and and AZ are just endless sources of photographic possibilities...ENDLESS... The Taos Pueblo is a must see....the plaza in downtown Santa Fe is a must see. Taking the tram up Sandia Peak...OMG....The Georgia O'Keeffe must do is a must see and you can go to Ghost Ranch about one hour north or so of Santa Fe and see what she painted!!!....they have van tour from Ghost Ranch that details her subject matter and it is a MUST DO!!!

https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/

Don't miss the old town center part of ABQ itself...great museums...wonderful stop!!!!
http://www.albuquerqueoldtown.com/


see the San Francisco de Assisi Church in Taos that O'Keeffe painted....one block off the main highway...a must SEE along of course with the Taos Pueblo itself..
https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/american_latino_heritage/San_Francisco_de_Assisi_Mission_Church.html

I will keep this focused on the area between ABQ-Santa Fe-Taos only.....the cliff dwellings are more Chaco Canyon in NM, Canyon de Chelly in eastern AZ.......the Chaco Canyon road is VERY rough so watch out!!! Acoma Pueblo and Zuni Pueblo are in NM so that would be worth the stop along with El Morro south of Gallop (engraving on rocks from explorers).. Near Los Alamos is Bandelier where there are many accessible cliff dwellings...at busy times of the year you must now take a NP shuttle bus....link is below....
https://www.nps.gov/band/index.htm

If you went to Banelier Park/Monument...take the time to drive through a neighborhood to get to White Rock Overlook for a spectacular view of the Rio Grande River and the Sangre de Cristo Mountains...follow the map since you go through a neighborhood of houses..
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Overlook-Park-White-Rock-Nm/204089606277092

Chaco Canyon if you can tolerate the dust (road is hard however) you will see some amazing ruins!!! .


If you try to see too much, you won't be happy since a lot of this takes time to appreciate....So your best thought is to slow down and say to yourself "I will come back several more times"....I cannot even begin to describe how much there really is in New Mexico so I hope these few thoughts/LINKS will help you out....and you have the added benefit of fall colors!!!!..along the Rio Grande depending on the altitude and on the western slopes of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains... Do bring some warm weather clothing so you can layer if needed if it gets cold or windy...

The Buffalo Thunder Casino is nice place to stay if you don't want to stay in Santa Fe ....
http://buffalothunderresort.com/

The Valles Caldera is simply a must see also though many visitors to NM overlook it...incredibly interesting and beautiful....and it successive eruptions over the hundreds of thousands of year shaped the landscape in that region..

The Chimayo Mission is a must see...and go to the Ortega weaver store...it is near Espanola....
http://www.elsantuariodechimayo.us/

http://ortegasweaving.com/

In October you should get some great fall colors along the Rio Grande River between Espanola and where it separates from the road as you rise up to the flat area where Taos is... on HWY 68 you come to a place called Pilar....take route 570 for the best fall color in that area.....slow down and make sure you see route 570 or you will easily miss the turn off...all paved roads....but route 570 if the trees are turning is blazingly beautiful.....

Also...drive a bit west of Taos and go to the high bridge over the Rio Grande......take some sandwiches and eat them in a great covered picnic ground on the left side as you cross off the bridge and are on the west bank...watch out for bees....Also....there is a flat trail you can hike south on along the west bank of the gorge and then turn back north to get spectacular photos of the high bridge spanning the Rio Grande River.....take your time since each 150 yards affords a slight different panorama of the bridge....The picnic area and facilities are perfect ...
http://highestbridges.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rio_Grande_Gorge_Bridge

AT the photo exhibition at the Autry in Los Angeles, as part of their f/64 photo exhibit, they had Ansel Adams' prints and a really excellent print of his "Moonrise over Hernandez" with the Sangre de Cristo Mountains in the backdrop....I had not seen such a good big print as the one they had there...there was a bench so I sat on the bench and just stared at it and got up and down several times to looks it over CLOSELY...I WILL GO BACK ..THE EXHIBITION WILL BE THERE UNTIL JAN. 11TH..
https://theautry.org/exhibitions/revolutionary-vision-group-f64-and-richard-misrach-photographs-bank-america-collection


....since I have been to Hernandez as recently as one year ago...the rough terrain behind Hernandez was EJECTA from a mega explosion of a caldera WHICH LOS ALAMOS SITS ON THE EASTERN FLANK...THE HUGE CENTER OF THE CALDERA IS JUST 8 OR 9 MILES to the west just west of LOS Alamos Labs..they have a good A bomb museum there..... The ejecta of the last blow up spread right to the base of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains...Dust from it settled as far east as Iowa....

Bandelier National Park is right there....link is below....next to Los Alamos..part of the Valles Caldera massif ... The would like to explore the mysterious Jimnez Mountains...
https://www.nps.gov/band/index.htm

https://www.google.com/#q=jimenez+mountains

It is impossible to explain all that is out there OMG....OMG.... From Kingman AZ to ABQ and north to Taos...in this massive "L" shaped 50-150 miles either side of that line are some of the most spectacular natural areas on earth!!!!

re the church in Adam's photo: THE RED CHURCH NOW HAS A WHITE TOP....AND IS MORE ACCESSIBLE USING RTE 1 OFF OF 84 AND BACKTRACK.....IF YOU KEEP GOING NORTH ON 84 YOU GET TO GHOST RANCH WHERE YOU CAN STAY...I HAVE STAYED HERE....LOTS OF HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PLACE called Ghost Ranch....going along the Chama River just north of there is cool as well..lots of rafters...Georgia O'Keeffe lived at Ghost Ranch for decades.....Her favorite mountain was the distinctive Pedernal....which you clearly see to the south of Ghost Ranch... ,,she cut a special deal with the Presbyterian Church who run the place...it is sort of big retreat for them but anybody can stay in their facilities.....I very highly recommend staying at the Ghost Ranch!!! You must do this!!!.
https://www.ghostranch.org/
https://www.ghostranch.org/explore/georgia-okeeffe/

O'Keeffe called Pedernal HER mountain...

nearby Ghost Ranch is the Monastery of Christ in the Desert...you take a good compacted dirt road to the Monastery along the Chama River ...you can also get lodging here from the good monks....It is WONDERFUL!!!

https://christdesert.org/


..THIS Ansel Adams' HERNANDEZ CHURCH IS NOT EASY TO FIND FROM 84 IF YOU DON'T KOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.......AND IT IS ADVISED TO USE RTE 1 WITH THAT DOUBLE BACK BECAUSE THE LOCALS LIVING ON THE DIRT ROAD FROM 84 are SUPPOSED TO BE an angry guy who THREATENs PEOPLE //...SO EASIER TO JUST GO TO RTE 1 AND DOUBLE BACK A FEW MINUTES AND STOP IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.................... AND RTE 1 IS A PAVED ROAD OFF OF 84...

THE CHURCH IS IN THE SHAPE OF A CROSS BUT AGAIN IT HAS A WHITE ROOF NOW....!!! SO THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A GOOGLE EARTH VIEW IT APPEARS TO BE AN ALUMINUM STRUCTURE.... I HAVE NOT BEEN TO THIS CHURCH THOUGH I DROVE ON 84 NUMEROUS TIMES WITHIN 300 YARDS OF IT EACH TIME... SO I HAVE A MISSION NOW TO GO SEE IT THE NEXT TIME I AM OUT THAT WAY..

I found links to how to find this church on the internet but they always, always stopped short of giving you precise directions so I took an hour to nail it down if you are interested in this sort of thing historically.....It is kind of pathetic that the land around it is all grubbed up now ....should have kept it the way it was but I guess people don't really understand at times what they have there since this is one of the most iconic photos in the entire history of photography.....

OBVIOUSLY THIS LOOKS REALLY DIFFERENT THEN WHEN ADAMS TOOK THE PHOTO...

here are links related to the discussions above..

https://www.ghostranch.org/
http://seethesouthwest.com/2402/valles-caldera-new-mexicos-supervolcano/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonrise,_Hernandez,_New_Mexico
http://anseladams.com/ansel-adams-anecdotes/
http://www.kevinshick.com/blog/2013/4/revisiting-hernandez-nm
https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=162&topic_id=74067
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=2366924
https://www.nps.gov/band/contacts.htm


sorry for going on but this Ansel Adams' photo has always intrigued me to no end...his photos from Carmel/Pt. Lobos to Yosemite to the Owens Valley out to AZ and NEW MEXICO have been a life long source of motivation for me to "get out there"... So seeing this "Moonrise Over Hernandez" so exquisitely displayed at the Autry just sent me over the top again .

Coincidentally I got the on line version of Popular Photography a few hours ago and they had a video interview with Ansel Adam's son...and at the very end you can see mounted on the studio wall is "Moonrise Over Hernandez"!!! re yesterday's email about that photograph and the directions to the exact church....

http://www.popphoto.com/watch-this-cameras-and-commercial-photography-ansel-adams?cmpid=enews090816&spPodID=020

sorry for the typos...God speed to both of you for a wonderful trip.....watch out driving at night anywhere out there including the Interstates re big game roaming around at dusk and during the night....very important to stay 1000% alert..!!!!


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Sep 17, 2016 08:11:58   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
went to NM for a week in Aug; Tram near ABQ; Santa Fe; Taos ( Taos Pueblo, Rio Grande Gorge Bridge; b; Secco Arroyo ); went to Vietnam Memorial in angel Fire; Bandelier NM; Mesa Verde; Monument Valley; back down Turquoise Trail ( Cerillos; have lunch in Madrid )

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Sep 17, 2016 08:20:27   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Three more places to NOT miss, and easy to access:

1)Puye cliff dwellings (about half way between Santa Fe and Espanola) - http://www.puyecliffs.com

2)Mesa Prieta in Valardo (book the private tour.....call and email them, don't rely on the website) - http://www.mesaprietapetroglyphs.org

3)the Santa Fe ski basin ----- at that time of year the aspens will stun you. This is just about 15 miles N of Santa Fe up Hyde Pk Rd.

Note that if you plan very well, and hustle, you COULD do all three in one day ( but I would take my time and spread it out over two and visit some reservations, etc.......also, the Moonrise church is right off the road to Mesa Prieta)😎

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Sep 17, 2016 08:33:32   #
Nikocarol Loc: NM & FL
 
I highly recommend you going to the Bisti wilderness...you will feel like you are on another planet.

www.americansouthwest.net/new_mexico/index.shtml

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Sep 17, 2016 08:38:00   #
phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York
 
Erkibler wrote:
I was going to suggest Mesa Verde in southern Colorado. But, that's not on the path from a Texas to New Mexico.
Great cliff dwelling tho.


Really great place! Stop in Durango on the way and take the old train up to Silverton.

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Sep 17, 2016 08:57:09   #
newsguygeorge Loc: Victoria, Texas
 
Several thoughts from someone who lives in NM for several years and has visited several of the recommended sites.

1. Recognize you'll be well above sea level so altitude sickness at our ages (I'm 71). Get soome electrolytes -- Gatorade, Revive, etc.

2. The Albuquerque Balloonn Festival is in mid-October. It's a great event but at this late lodging and crowds are factors.

3. Finally, all the recommendations are good, but it's late in the year, so check what's still open.

Gave a good trip.

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Sep 17, 2016 09:15:49   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
newsguygeorge wrote:
Several thoughts from someone who lives in NM for several years and has visited several of the recommended sites.

1. Recognize you'll be well above sea level so altitude sickness at our ages (I'm 71). Get soome electrolytes -- Gatorade, Revive, etc.

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Good point! Most of the sites in NM are at 5000' and above. Santa Fe is 7000' fer instance.
My wife is troubled by this and we found that canned oxygen is available at hiking shops and on line. It's a handy item to keep in your car.

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Sep 17, 2016 09:23:31   #
ncribble Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
Card D F, Jcboy 3 covered this list excellently! Solid recommendations, the only problem would be changing you travel time for 10 days to 30. Too, you'll be in ABQ about the time of the International Balloon Festival and this is fantastic. Thanks for visiting New Mexico the Land of Enchantment!

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Sep 17, 2016 09:33:37   #
SBrodsky Loc: Northern Colorado
 
You do want to try and take the "High Road to Taos" and hit places like the Santuario de Chimayo, east of Espanola, and the small towns north of there, including Truchas, where Robt. Redford filmed the Milagro Beanfield War. Cimarron Canyon is pretty photogenic as well.

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Sep 17, 2016 09:36:40   #
Nikocarol Loc: NM & FL
 
You certainly received some amazing info...You will not have enough time to do it all . I live in NM and I highly recommend you going to the Bisti wilderness as a must see. However walking long distance is a must and the reward is amazing, you will feel like you are on another planet.

Another visual gem is a short distance from Santa Fe you can take the "turquoise trail" and head over to Madrid pronounced Mad drid. Also stopping in the town of Cerrillos pronounced Sir re ose. As you can see those are my version of spelling..forgive me Ha! Check out Canyon road if your into Art 'o)stop at El Farol for a drink. Lots of photo oops here.

People in NM are use to photographers pulling off the road, stopping along the highway and in town..so take your time and enjoy the sights of NM.

When in Santa Fe don't forget to get to try the amazing Green chile cheeseburger at "The Bite" formerly the Bobcat bite located on the Old Santa Fe trail downtown at Garretts desert Inn. NM came in 7th across the country for amazing food. Check "Trip Advisor" app and read the reviews if your not sure where to eat...another little gem is the food stands one being El Parasol on Cerrillos road next door to Baskin Robbins. The chicken tacos are to die for with guacamole. Then on Cordova road between Cerrillos and St Francis there is a Mexican food truck that sells out most everyday with there tacos and it is called El Chile Toreado. Tomasita's and the Shed are very popular too. Then on the flip side of those local places there is The Compound, Geronimo's both are on Canyon Rd. For breakfast a fabulous little place is called Clafoutis French bakery which I find wonderful, fresh, and authentic.

Have fun, take your tripod, stay safe..I have traveled alone in the night and day and no worries.

People love to share the history of there beautiful NM so ask the locals. Ah, don't forget to visit Chimayo..the church is a very sacred place and again use to photographers and on the high road to Taos. The bridge there is 650 above the Rio Grande and a sight to see. I could go on and on but I will stop. Happy Trails!

www.americansouthwest.net/new_mexico/index.shtml

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