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Aug 30, 2016 06:07:51   #
EddieC Loc: CT
 
There are rumors out of Switzerland that two of Nikon's best lenses will be discontinued probably due to the introduction of the 105mm 1.4 lens. I assume this will drive the prices up.

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Aug 30, 2016 06:13:47   #
Robeng Loc: California
 
EddieC wrote:
There are rumors out of Switzerland that two of Nikon's best lenses will be discontinued probably due to the introduction of the 105mm 1.4 lens. I assume this will drive the prices up.


If you know what you're with a 135mm DC, hard to imagine a better portrait lens.

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Aug 30, 2016 06:36:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
EddieC wrote:
There are rumors out of Switzerland that two of Nikon's best lenses will be discontinued probably due to the introduction of the 105mm 1.4 lens. I assume this will drive the prices up.


There have been quite a few 105mm lenses, and there's no reason for them to stop making new models. That's a very popular lens. Yes, the price will be high, but older 105s will come on the market.

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Aug 30, 2016 06:45:31   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
EddieC wrote:
There are rumors out of Switzerland that two of Nikon's best lenses will be discontinued probably due to the introduction of the 105mm 1.4 lens. I assume this will drive the prices up.


Nikon rarely discontinues a lens unless there is a reason. For instance the Nikon 80-400mm lens was replaced by a newer version that has the SWM (silent wave focusing motor) built-in and is faster focusing and uses less power. But the older version is still available at a lesser price. I wouldn't panic about them dropping a successful products or even a semi-successful one. But, you may find that the one you like is easier and less expensive to get because of the newer lens.

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Aug 30, 2016 07:19:05   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
The 105mm f2.8 is the macro lens, the 105mm f1.4 is a portrait lens (not a macro) so the rumor doesn't make sense.

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Aug 30, 2016 07:49:31   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Brucej67 wrote:
The 105mm f2.8 is the macro lens, the 105mm f1.4 is a portrait lens (not a macro) so the rumor doesn't make sense.

The rumor is about the 135mm f/2D DC (1990) and the 105mm f/2D DC (1993) lenses, which along with the 85mm f/1.4D AF-D (1995) lens were the trio of portrait lenses from Nikon for many years.

Note that following the introduction of the 85mm f/1.4G lens Nikon did discontinue the older 85mm f/1.4D AF-D. It might well be that following introduction of the 105mm f1.4E Nikon will discontinue the 105mm f/2D DC lens. I doubt the 135mm f/2D DC lens will be discontinued on the basis of the 105mm f/1.4, but if a new 135mm lens is introduced it would seem very reasonable to discontinue both of the DC lenses.

Incidentally Nikon Rumors website is reporting that while Nikon is not listing either of the DC lenses as discontinued, but that Amazon is listing the 105mm f/2 DC as discontinued. A quick check shows they are still listing it as discontinued, but also say they will soon have more in stock...

Edit: Nikon Rumors is reporting "Update: Nikon UK confirmed that the AF DC-NIKKOR 105mm f/2D lens is no longer in production".

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Aug 30, 2016 08:00:33   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Apaflo wrote:
The rumor is about the 135mm f/2D DC (1990) and the 105mm f/2D DC (1993) lenses, which along with the 85mm f/1.4D AF-D (1995) lens were the trio of portrait lenses from Nikon for many years.

Note that following the introduction of the 85mm f/1.4G lens Nikon did discontinue the older 85mm f/1.4D AF-D. It might well be that following introduction of the 105mm f1.4E Nikon will discontinue the 105mm f/2D DC lens. I doubt the 135mm f/2D DC lens will be discontinued on the basis of the 105mm f/1.4, but if a new 135mm lens is introduced it would seem very reasonable to discontinue both of the DC lenses.

Incidentally Nikon Rumors website is reporting that while Nikon is not listing either of the DC lenses as discontinued, but that Amazon is listing the 105mm f/2 DC as discontinued. A quick check shows they are still listing it as discontinued, but also say they will soon have more in stock...
The rumor is about the 135mm f/2D DC (1990) and th... (show quote)


If it was a AF-D lens then it was old enough to be replaced by a newer lens with "arguably" better glass better focusing and possibly a silent wave (SWM) motor so the lens newer lens could also (more easily) be enjoyed by the cameras (such as the D3xxx and D5xxx) that don't have focusing motors built into the camera body. The older Auto Focusing lens would have been manual focus ONLY on those less expensive bodies. This move would provide that lens for all bodies.

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Aug 30, 2016 08:10:07   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
EddieC wrote:
There are rumors out of Switzerland that two of Nikon's best lenses will be discontinued probably due to the introduction of the 105mm 1.4 lens. I assume this will drive the prices up.

I would assume the price of the 105mm f/2D DC lens will start dropping.

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Aug 30, 2016 08:20:05   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
If it was a AF-D lens then it was old enough to be replaced by a newer lens with "arguably" better glass better focusing and possibly a silent wave (SWM) motor so the lens newer lens could also (more easily) be enjoyed by the cameras (such as the D3xxx and D5xxx) that don't have focusing motors built into the camera body. The older Auto Focusing lens would have been manual focus ONLY on those less expensive bodies. This move would provide that lens for all bodies.

Exactly! You did notice the dates I listed with each lens? They were all originally released in the early 1990's. None of the older lenses would work on entry level Nikon DX format cameras.

I doubt the newer 105mm f1.4E will make a lot of difference there... with a price tag of $2200 it won't appeal to many who buy entry level cameras. The Nikon D5500 is listed as $750, which is just less than 1/3rd the cost of the 105mm f/1.4E lens.

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Aug 30, 2016 08:23:31   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Sorry, I thought it was the G not the D lens. That's what happens when your eyes go bad.

Apaflo wrote:
The rumor is about the 135mm f/2D DC (1990) and the 105mm f/2D DC (1993) lenses, which along with the 85mm f/1.4D AF-D (1995) lens were the trio of portrait lenses from Nikon for many years.

Note that following the introduction of the 85mm f/1.4G lens Nikon did discontinue the older 85mm f/1.4D AF-D. It might well be that following introduction of the 105mm f1.4E Nikon will discontinue the 105mm f/2D DC lens. I doubt the 135mm f/2D DC lens will be discontinued on the basis of the 105mm f/1.4, but if a new 135mm lens is introduced it would seem very reasonable to discontinue both of the DC lenses.

Incidentally Nikon Rumors website is reporting that while Nikon is not listing either of the DC lenses as discontinued, but that Amazon is listing the 105mm f/2 DC as discontinued. A quick check shows they are still listing it as discontinued, but also say they will soon have more in stock...

Edit: Nikon Rumors is reporting "Update: Nikon UK confirmed that the AF DC-NIKKOR 105mm f/2D lens is no longer in production".
The rumor is about the 135mm f/2D DC (1990) and th... (show quote)

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Aug 30, 2016 10:18:58   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Apaflo wrote:
Exactly! You did notice the dates I listed with each lens? They were all originally released in the early 1990's. None of the older lenses would work on entry level Nikon DX format cameras.

I doubt the newer 105mm f1.4E will make a lot of difference there... with a price tag of $2200 it won't appeal to many who buy entry level cameras. The Nikon D5500 is listed as $750, which is just less than 1/3rd the cost of the 105mm f/1.4E lens.


LOL!! I have a D70s, a D7100 and a D610. I have a Tamron 10-24mm, a Nikkor 18-70, a Nikkor 70-300, a Nikkor 80-400 (the older version) that are probably (if you add them together) worth as much or almost as much as my camera bodies. But, as I tell my wife (who often doesn't listen) and any that will, If you take good care of your lenses, they will outlast any of your bodies and you will have them to use on future bodies (assuming you don't change brands or mounts). So the lens is a much better long term investment than the camera body and if the lens fits my needs and I can find a way to afford it, I don't care if it is worth more than the camera or cameras.

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Aug 30, 2016 12:06:32   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
LOL!! I have a D70s, a D7100 and a D610. I have a Tamron 10-24mm, a Nikkor 18-70, a Nikkor 70-300, a Nikkor 80-400 (the older version) that are probably (if you add them together) worth as much or almost as much as my camera bodies. But, as I tell my wife (who often doesn't listen) and any that will, If you take good care of your lenses, they will outlast any of your bodies and you will have them to use on future bodies (assuming you don't change brands or mounts). So the lens is a much better long term investment than the camera body and if the lens fits my needs and I can find a way to afford it, I don't care if it is worth more than the camera or cameras.
LOL!! I have a D70s, a D7100 and a D610. I have... (show quote)

But you don't shoot with a D5500.

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Aug 30, 2016 13:08:59   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
Apaflo wrote:
But you don't shoot with a D5500.


True. I looked at the specs of the D5100 when I bought my D7100 and realized that it was an entry level (barely above the D3100 camera). I worked with both D3100 and the D5100 along with the rest of the lineup. At the time, I couldn't afford a Full Frame and I already had the D70s, to which the D7100 was a distant relative, and elected to spend the extra bucks for the top of the line DX camera. I have never regretted it. The camera is solid, has decent resolution and is a good general camera to use. I use it in addition to my full frame D610 constantly. It also gives my long lenses a little more reach even if it is just by the difference in sensor size. It is the main reason that I recommend to people that want a camera for more than snapshots of the vacation and the occasional holiday get together, that they seriously consider looking at the D7xxx lineup. I am also not thrilled with the movable / tilt viewing screens as Nikon and other makers have had a high incidence of screens damaged by being bent too far, broken off or otherwise abused. I realize that the issue isn't caused by the photographer in many cases but by the 7 year old kid that takes mommy or daddy's camera and abuses it. But, it seems to me to just be something else to go wrong and the only thing feeding the info to the screen is a small ribbon cable that is prone to breaking. Just my opinion though and others may swear by them. I have just seen too many returned to Nikon because of issues.

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Aug 30, 2016 13:11:39   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Looking forward to reviews of the new 105 1.4E.

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Aug 31, 2016 05:55:24   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
EddieC wrote:
There are rumors out of Switzerland that two of Nikon's best lenses will be discontinued probably due to the introduction of the 105mm 1.4 lens. I assume this will drive the prices up.


if correct, and why not, get ready for lenses minus aperture rings (G series). they will be cheaper to manufacture. so i'd be getting the 105 and 135 dc lenses quickly. i've already both of them, so i don't particularly care what nikon comes out with next. they work perfectly on my f2t, f6 and df bodies.

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