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May 16, 2012 11:22:22   #
oceanflyer Loc: Windword Side of CA
 
When I increase the contrast on this photo shot into the Sun I can get detail at the base of tree but it then looses something, at least to me. Is that the correct thinking for B&W or is it a personal choice?



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May 16, 2012 16:26:02   #
Gidgette Loc: Boerne,Texas
 
Welcome to UHH. It looks dark overall to me.

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May 16, 2012 16:36:39   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
I like gnarly old trees,maybe lightening the pic a little would help.

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May 16, 2012 17:18:27   #
jadeast Loc: Virginia
 
oceanflyer wrote:
When I increase the contrast on this photo shot into the Sun I can get detail at the base of tree but it then looses something, at least to me. Is that the correct thinking for B&W or is it a personal choice?


Depends on what you're trying to achieve. There is abundant detail around the base of the tree but I think I like it better as a silhouette. I could live without the shed on the left side though. My vote is for artist's choice.

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May 16, 2012 17:24:23   #
oceanflyer Loc: Windword Side of CA
 
More like this?



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May 16, 2012 17:40:32   #
jadeast Loc: Virginia
 
oceanflyer wrote:
More like this?


I was thinking more cloning it out rather than cropping but in spite of the view to the contrary photography is hard work.

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May 16, 2012 17:57:05   #
oceanflyer Loc: Windword Side of CA
 
OK, I'll admit it. I don't know what or how to clone. I've only had LR4 for a week and not sure if I can clone with that or not. Although it sure does a lot.

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May 16, 2012 23:21:18   #
jadeast Loc: Virginia
 
oceanflyer wrote:
OK, I'll admit it. I don't know what or how to clone. I've only had LR4 for a week and not sure if I can clone with that or not. Although it sure does a lot.


No one here knew how to do anything either when they started, so don't feel like an outside because you have a certain skill at at this time. all the new skills will come with practice if it's important to you. Start with simple projects and work up to more complicated one. this one would be a complicated one! Don't start here. The first one was goodsand you'll get better. A Place like this is a great place to learn what creating a great image is all about. every person here was where you're at right now.

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May 16, 2012 23:55:46   #
flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico
 
oceanflyer wrote:
More like this?


Since you have lightroom you can use the fill light slider in the develop module to open up the dark shadow at the base of the tree to reveal a little detail. Also, you may have added a little too much black to the image perhaps.

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May 17, 2012 00:16:32   #
oceanflyer Loc: Windword Side of CA
 
Thanks for all the comments and encouragement. This is certainly a hobby where one never stops learning.

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May 17, 2012 08:43:57   #
mrbil Loc: mississippi
 
I like your photo, glad to see i'm not the only one who likes the look of an old tree and def BW.



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May 17, 2012 08:53:06   #
oceanflyer Loc: Windword Side of CA
 
It's interesting about dead or old trees. I never noticed them before I got serious about photography. Now I watch for them when I travel.

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May 17, 2012 10:31:44   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
oceanflyer wrote:
When I increase the contrast on this photo shot into the Sun I can get detail at the base of tree but it then looses something, at least to me. Is that the correct thinking for B&W or is it a personal choice?


there is not enough light to bring out the detail - unless you pump it up in processsing - which you tried - which did not work either. So you are stuck with it as is till you can photograph it again - which, come to think of it isn't a bad idea

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May 17, 2012 10:33:21   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
oceanflyer wrote:
Thanks for all the comments and encouragement. This is certainly a hobby where one never stops learning.


to me it works better as a silhouette rather than the "in between" shot that it was.

Alternately you could lighten the lower half up and try to go the other direction.

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May 17, 2012 10:58:30   #
oceanflyer Loc: Windword Side of CA
 
Funny you suggested shooting it again. I'd love to but I have to wait a while.

I was out at sunrise in Sedona, AZ capturing coffee pot. I had to hike a bit to get a view without houses and telephone wires.

So I know where it is but it's about 700 miles from home so I'll have to wait until the fall when I go back.

In the attached photo the tree is behind and to the right of where I was standing for this.



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