Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ

"The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and its Obama-appointed director have issued new regulations closing 77 million acres of land (an area larger than 45 of the country’s 50 states) in Alaska to state wildlife management, including predator control and other established means and methods of hunting."
The FWS has no authority to do this.


http://www.ammoland.com/2016/08/obama-administration-flouts-law-benefit-anti-hunting-pals/#ixzz4HsrbuHw2

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

Good for the US FWS. Protecting the environment and wildlife from gun toting crazies. You're from Arizona, what do you know about Alaska?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

I'm sure this is not Obama's first illegal action and over reach.....more to come.

Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Did you read the article?
Evidently not.
The US FWS has no authority to do this.

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

The biggest criminal and h**er of America to ever hold the highest office. The most corrupt though will be Hillary, IF she wins which is doubtful.

Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ

It's obviously not his first illegal overreach.
Just his illegal and unconstitutional alterations to his ACA should have gotten him impeached, but the Republicans are a spineless bunch.

rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA

I did read the article, and realized a website called "Ammo Land" has, on the surface, to be suspect in its handling of the facts. Googling farther, I see that the USFWS Director in Alaska was incensed because of state sponsored k**l off of wolves, grizzlies and black bears in a vain attempt to convert the state to an ever-expanding Stop-and-Shop for moose and caribou h****rs. It has directed managers to gun down wolves and all bears from helicopters, and to gas wolf pups in dens. It has authorized private citizens to shoot wolves from airplanes, to hunt and trap wolves when pelts are worthless and pups helpless, and to bait, trap and snare grizzlies. It has allowed h****rs to fly into grizzly and black bear habitat and shoot them the same day and to sell the body parts of black bears.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service usually allows states to regulate hunting on national wildlife refuges, though it doesn’t have to. The agency tried to work things out with the Alaska Board of Game. But when the grizzly slaughter on the Kenai National Wildlife Refuge threatened survival of the population, the refuge closed grizzly hunting. Alaska’s game board responded by escalating, where possible, its war on predators.

From the Federal Register, here is the summary of the rule change:

The National Park Service is amending its regulations for sport hunting and trapping in national preserves in Alaska. This rule provides that the National Park Service does not adopt State of Alaska management actions or laws or regulations that authorize taking of wildlife, which are related to predator reduction efforts (as defined in this rule). This rule affirms current State prohibitions on harvest practices by adopting them as federal regulation. The rule also prohibits the following activities that are allowed under State law: Taking any black bear, including cubs and sows with cubs, with artificial light at den sites; taking brown bears and black bears over bait; taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season;The National Park Service is amending its regulations for sport hunting and trapping in national preserves in Alaska. This rule provides that the National Park Service does not adopt State of Alaska management actions or laws or regulations that authorize taking of wildlife, which are related to predator reduction efforts (as defined in this rule). This rule affirms current State prohibitions on harvest practices by adopting them as federal regulation. The rule also prohibits the following activities that are allowed under State law: Taking any black bear, including cubs and sows with cubs, with artificial light at den sites; taking brown bears and black bears over bait; taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season; harvest of swimming caribou or taking caribou from a motorboat while under power; and using dogs to hunt black bears. The rule also simplifies and updates procedures for closing an area or restricting an activity in National Park Service areas in Alaska; updates obsolete subsistence regulations; prohibits obstructing persons engaged in lawful hunting or trapping; and authorizes the use of native species as bait for fishing.; and using dogs to hunt black bears. The rule also simplifies and updates procedures for closing an area or restricting an activity in National Park Service areas in Alaska; updates obsolete subsistence regulations; prohibits obstructing persons engaged in lawful hunting or trapping; and authorizes the use of native species as bait for fishing.

The Alaskan hinterland is B*M managed land, and as such, the Federal Government in the role as protector of the Environment, can change rules when it sees that States are unable to protect wildlife. "Harvest of swimming caribou or taking caribou from a motorboat while under power," how possibly can you object to that?

Go play mighty h****r on your computer.

btbg

[quote=rgrenaderphoto]I did read the article, and realized a website called "Ammo Land" has, on the surface, to be suspect in its handling of the facts. Googling farther, I see that the USFWS Director in Alaska was incensed because of state sponsored k**l off of wolves, grizzlies and black bears in a vain attempt to convert the state to an ever-expanding Stop-and-Shop for moose and caribou h****rs. It has directed managers to gun down wolves and all bears from helicopters, and to gas wolf pups in dens. It has authorized private citizens to shoot wolves from airplanes, to hunt and trap wolves when pelts are worthless and pups helpless, and to bait, trap and snare grizzlies. It has allowed h****rs to fly into grizzly and black bear habitat and shoot them the same day and to sell the body parts of black bears.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service usually allows states to regulate hunting on national wildlife refuges, though it doesn’t have to. The agency tried to work things out with the Alaska Board of Game. But when the grizzly slaughter on the Kenai National Wildlife Refuge threatened survival of the population, the refuge closed grizzly hunting. Alaska’s game board responded by escalating, where possible, its war on predators. The National Park Service is amending its regulations for sport hunting and trapping in national preserves in Alaska. This rule provides that the National Park Service does not adopt State of Alaska management actions or laws or regulations that authorize taking of wildlife, which are related to predator reduction efforts (as defined in this rule). This rule affirms current State prohibitions on harvest practices by adopting them as federal regulation. The rule also prohibits the following activities that are allowed under State law: Taking any black bear, including cubs and sows with cubs, with artificial light at den sites; taking brown bears and black bears over bait; taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season;The National Park Service is amending its regulations for sport hunting and trapping in national preserves in Alaska. This rule provides that the National Park Service does not adopt State of Alaska management actions or laws or regulations that authorize taking of wildlife, which are related to predator reduction efforts (as defined in this rule). This rule affirms current State prohibitions on harvest practices by adopting them as federal regulation. The rule also prohibits the following activities that are allowed under State law: Taking any black bear, including cubs and sows with cubs, with artificial light at den sites; taking brown bears and black bears over bait; taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season; harvest of swimming caribou or taking caribou from a motorboat while under power; and using dogs to hunt black bears. The rule also simplifies and updates procedures for closing an area or restricting an activity in National Park Service areas in Alaska; updates obsolete subsistence regulations; prohibits obstructing persons engaged in lawful hunting or trapping; and authorizes the use of native species as bait for fishing.; and using dogs to hunt black bears. The rule also simplifies and updates procedures for closing an area or restricting an activity in National Park Service areas in Alaska; updates obsolete subsistence regulations; prohibits obstructing persons engaged in lawful hunting or trapping; and authorizes the use of native species as bait for fishing.

The Alaskan hinterland is B*M managed land, and as such, the Federal Government in the role as protector of the Environment, can change rules when it sees that States are unable to protect wildlife. "Harvest of swimming caribou or taking caribou from a motorboat while under power," (Show Smilies) (Show Tags)



Because the constitution and all other federal laws give that control to the state and not the federal government. If you bother to check when wolves are not controlled the population of big game animals drops dramatically. Wolves have successfully been reintroduced into Yellowstone National Park. Since then they have spread into Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Montana, etc... Because they are considered endangered in the lower 48 states they then k**l livestock and have decimated some elk herds, and virtually nothing can be done to stop the problem. Instead, at least in Oregon, there is a fund to "reimburse" the rancher for his loss. However, the reimbursement isn't enough to pay for the actual value of the livestock, and to get the proof that it is actually wolf predation that caused the death is very difficult unless the body is found immediately. Often it is not because of the large number of acres that cattle graze on in the arid portion of the state.

Alaska also has predation problems. The difference is it is the caribou herds that are being harmed. By controlling the population of wolves they keep that problem in check. That's a good thing. Not a bad thing. Also the subsistance hunting and fishing in Alaska that the ruling you posted claims is outdated isn't. Much of the rural population of Alaska still relies on subsistance hunting and fishing for their primary food source. Yeah, I know, I live in Oregon currently. Used to live in Alaska. My sister and her husband, my niece and nephew, my daughter and son-in-law all still live there.

Also, there are no grizzly bears in Alaska. they are brown bears. Neither the bears nor the wolves that are being hunted are endangered as a species. You can argue with how they are hunted if you want. However, those rules are there to keep the wolves, bears, caribou, and other big game animals in some sort of balance, while still allowing hunting and subsistance lifestyles. Obviously you have limited knowledge of Alaska and how the people there live. Those big game animals are necessary for their survival. Food costs are much higher than in the lower 48 states, and in many locations subsistance fishing and hunting are the primary food sources. Wolves or bears damaging that food source is a major problem.

Also overreaching control of federal land from Washington D.C. is a common problem for the entire west. Most of the rest of the country is largely either privately or state owned. However, many states in the west are more than 50% owned by the feds. Not only does that lower the tax roles significantly, as the federal government takes more and more control of that land it badly disrupts the generational lifestyles of the residents of those states. Local control is essential to prevent abuse of power by the federal government. Those land use issues are currently being settled far too much lately by bureaucrats who have little or no understanding of either the history or the reasons for why things have been done the way they are.



The National Park Service is amending its regulations for sport hunting and trapping in national preserves in Alaska. This rule provides that the National Park Service does not adopt State of Alaska management actions or laws or regulations that authorize taking of wildlife, which are related to predator reduction efforts (as defined in this rule). This rule affirms current State prohibitions on harvest practices by adopting them as federal regulation. The rule also prohibits the following activities that are allowed under State law: Taking any black bear, including cubs and sows with cubs, with artificial light at den sites; taking brown bears and black bears over bait; taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season;The National Park Service is amending its regulations for sport hunting and trapping in national preserves in Alaska. This rule provides that the National Park Service does not adopt State of Alaska management actions or laws or regulations that authorize taking of wildlife, which are related to predator reduction efforts (as defined in this rule). This rule affirms current State prohibitions on harvest practices by adopting them as federal regulation. The rule also prohibits the following activities that are allowed under State law: Taking any black bear, including cubs and sows with cubs, with artificial light at den sites; taking brown bears and black bears over bait; taking wolves and coyotes during the denning season; harvest of swimming caribou or taking caribou from a motorboat while under power; and using dogs to hunt black bears. The rule also simplifies and updates procedures for closing an area or restricting an activity in National Park Service areas in Alaska; updates obsolete subsistence regulations; prohibits obstructing persons engaged in lawful hunting or trapping; and authorizes the use of native species as bait for fishing.; and using dogs to hunt black bears. The rule also simplifies and updates procedures for closing an area or restricting an activity in National Park Service areas in Alaska; updates obsolete subsistence regulations; prohibits obstructing persons engaged in lawful hunting or trapping; and authorizes the use of native species as bait for fishing.

The Alaskan hinterland is B*M managed land, and as such, the Federal Government in the role as protector of the Environment, can change rules when it sees that States are unable to protect wildlife. "Harvest of swimming caribou or taking caribou from a motorboat while under power," how possibly can you
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