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Aug 18, 2016 08:41:32   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
jaymatt wrote:
That's what happens when one uses a Nikon.
Sorry, couldn't resist.


Thank God it was not a Canon, it might have exploded!!!

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Aug 18, 2016 08:57:54   #
Trentc Loc: Denver, CO
 
Architect1776 wrote:
One of the articles had a great response by saying if it had been a FF camera the plunge would have been only 2937.33' or a M4/3 it would have plunged 5866.67'. But as an APSC format it only plunged 4400', thank God it was not a M4/3.


LOL!

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Aug 18, 2016 09:26:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
n3eg wrote:
Should I say it? Should I? Yeah, I'll say it.

If it was a micro four thirds camera, this WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED!


Yeah, it would have made an incriminating 4K video of him doing something else he shouldn't do at 40,000 feet!

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Aug 18, 2016 11:11:29   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In 2014, a military pilot in the UK got his Nikon D5300 jammed in the controls, causing the plane to take a quick 4400' dive. He was court marshalled, and now there are ten lawsuits filed against the Ministry of Defence.

Google - Plane plunged 4400 feet after pilot's camera became wedged against controls

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Jerry, is it possible that a tired old teacher, a recluse farmer, or a possible scab-like, non-union carpenter has replied to you, seemingly, suggesting that whenever a pilot takes a poor quality camera aboard an aircraft, such happens, albeit, the truth might be that whenever a pilot takes a prestigious, high quality Nikon camera aboard an inferior aircraft that is accustomed to having disposable, throw away, entry level cameras being aboard, ~ those cameras mostly having been manufactured by Canon, Sony, Olympus, or even a few older model Brownie Hawkeyes tossed in just for the fun of it, a 4,400' plummet, more likely than not, assuredly, can be expected?

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Aug 18, 2016 12:08:22   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Enough about gun control. Now we must stress camera control whether it be a cannon, a toxic noxon, or a pent up axe.

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Aug 18, 2016 13:47:21   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
George Eastman settled on the name "Kodak" because it had two syllables with a D in the middle and K at either end. He liked the sound and thought other people would, too. I spent thousadns of dollars on Nikon gear just because I like the name.


The other good quality of a name like "Kodak" is since it was a made-up word, There were no preconceived notions about what it "meant" So Eastman could let his products define it. Today they'd have a consulting firm spend 3 years explaining some phony "deep" meaning of a dictionary word used as a brand!

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Aug 18, 2016 14:34:41   #
Zone-System-Grandpa Loc: Springfield, Ohio
 
revhen wrote:
Enough about gun control. Now we must stress camera control whether it be a cannon, a toxic noxon, or a pent up axe.

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Very cleverly expressed ! Thank you !!!! :sm24

p.s. Hopefully, your reference to a toxic noxon camera was not in any way targeting one of my noxon 810D cameras ?????? If so, I shall forever cry because I am the proud owner of three of them! Even worse, during a hospital stay over a year ago at the very same time when I was having invasive open heart surgery performed to replace an aortic heart valve that was defective, one of my Noxon 810Ds had been delivered to my home's residence and it has never been unwrapped nor removed from the original B&H cardboard shipping box in which it had been originally securely packaged within... Yes, that's right, I have a brand new Noxon 810D resting within a cardboard shipping box from B&H and packaged along with it is a Nikon Battery pack (aka: a vertical hand grip), several new lithium ion batteries, a battery charger, a memory card nearing a terabyte of memory, a Sand-disk memory card, several B&W top of the line multi coated filters, and many more items of which I have now easily forgotten about ever since the day when I had first placed the original order for them along with my very last (my 3rd) Noxon 810D camera !

On a more serious note, being that my health is no longer what it once had been, I do have the brand new Nikon 810D camera body ~ along with the other items which I have aforementioned above and if anyone among you may have an interest in purchasing the camera body separately or along with any of or all of the other items which I have listed above, please shoot me a private message and we will discuss the details regarding prices and how we can go about making a transaction for you to become the new owner of one of the very best cameras that has ever been made to date ! As a side note, I am not interested in profiting money nor do I care about conducting a transaction whereby I end up with a pocketful of your money, however; should you have an interest in owning this camera, it's vertical battery pack grip, batteries, charger, and several top of the line B&W filters, please get with me via a private message and then we will see what can be done, (what I can do) to make it happen for you.

Best Regards,

~ Doug ~

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Aug 18, 2016 14:46:40   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Dr.Nikon wrote:
The Japanese meaning of the word Nikon ....

Nail anis a Japanese spiritual practice of extreme gratitude' being/feeling deeply grateful for each and every blessing, large and small , down to being grateful when you flip a switch and a line comes on or get something stuck in the aircraft controls and get it unstuck in the nick of time ...

Canon on the other hand means a regulation or dogma decreed by law or church law that says Canon in control column .. Your screwed ...

I was sitting under an apple tree pondering gravity .. No an apple didn't drop on my head ....a Nikon did ...that's when I discovered the Law of Nikon ...unlike Newton ...,
The Japanese meaning of the word Nikon .... br br... (show quote)


For the record (Under the category, "More than you wanted to know") Nikon comes from (日本光学工業株式会社 "Japan Optical Industries Co., Ltd.") and it is a subsidiary of Mitsubishi. Nikon made the first Canon lenses as Canon did not have any lens manufacturing capability. Canon comes from (キヤノン株式会社 Kyanon Kabushiki-gaisha) Earliest Canon cameras were a direct knockoff of Leica.

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Aug 18, 2016 15:13:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
For the record (Under the category, "More than you wanted to know") Nikon comes from (日本光学工業株式会社 "Japan Optical Industries Co., Ltd.") and it is a subsidiary of Mitsubishi. Nikon made the first Canon lenses as Canon did not have any lens manufacturing capability. Canon comes from (キヤノン株式会社 Kyanon Kabushiki-gaisha) Earliest Canon cameras were a direct knockoff of Leica.


Your spelling is off. It's Kanon which is the Buddhist goddess of Mercy.
Ps Sony makes Nikon sensors because Nikon can't.

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Aug 18, 2016 15:28:05   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
...Nikon comes from (日本光学工業株式会社 "Japan Optical Industries Co., Ltd.") and it is a subsidiary of Mitsubishi. Nikon made the first Canon lenses as Canon did not have any lens manufacturing capability. Canon comes from (キヤノン株式会社 Kyanon Kabushiki-gaisha) Earliest Canon cameras were a direct knockoff of Leica.


Actually, the name of the the company originally was Nippon Kōgaku Kōgyō Kabushikigaisha (established 1917 I think). This translates roughly to "Japan Optical Industries Co., Ltd."

Prior to WWII they were an optics company... no cameras. And, yes, they made lenses for Canon, among others. It wasn't until 1948 that the first Nikon rangefinder cameras were offered (which also were largely a knockoff of Leica, much like many other interchangeable lens, 35mm film cameras of that era.) In 1959 the Nikon F was their first SLR, setting a new standard among that type of camera. In 1988 the company changed it's name to that of it's most successful and widely recognized products, Nikon Corporation.

Supposedly "Nikon", which initially was only the name of the camera itself, was derived from parts of the company name. It is said that Ni-Ko-N was made up from the first two letters of the first two words of the original corporate name, with the second N added for good measure and because it sounded right!

Incidentally, "Kiron" was a brand name in the 1980s, manufactured by Kino Precision Industries, which was formed in part by a bunch of disaffected Nikon employees. Known for very high quality lenses, the company president freely admitted that "Kiron was Nikon, spelled sideways."

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Aug 18, 2016 15:29:03   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
My other comment was that if it had been a D600, he would have had spots...brown ones, in his pants!

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Aug 18, 2016 16:02:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
One of the articles had a great response by saying if it had been a FF camera the plunge would have been only 2937.33' or a M4/3 it would have plunged 5866.67'. But as an APSC format it only plunged 4400', thank God it was not a M4/3.


Don't laugh. Being military, they will probably do a study and have a manual about how far a plane drops, depending what is stuck there.

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Aug 18, 2016 16:10:38   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
Pandylou wrote:
What actually happened was the pilot, alone in the cockpit, taking pictures. (The co-pilot was in the galley)
Once finished snapping, he placed the camera on his seat armrest.
Re-adjusting his seat (electrically) to continue his flying duties, the camera was pushed forward, now wedged between the armrest and the side-stick, pitching the aircraft hard nose down. The co-pilot managed to re enter the cockpit, but was pinned to the ceiling due to -ve G. The plane recovered from the dive due to the sophisticated software onboard the Airbus 330 - not input from the pilots...

This article in Flight Global gives more detail.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/a330-flight-control-laws-saved-voyager-inquiry-finds-410491/
What actually happened was the pilot, alone in the... (show quote)


Good mag. Excellent articles.

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Aug 18, 2016 16:29:23   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Your spelling is off. It's Kanon which is the Buddhist goddess of Mercy....


Sorry, but your spelling is off slightly, too... The earliest Canon cameras were called Kwanon and named after Kannon, the Buddhist goddess of mercy. Partly this might be because the founder of the company was appalled at the high cost of Leica and Contax cameras he copied. The Leica Model II from 1932 sold for 420 yen and at that time a high-paying job in Tokyo might pay 70 yen a month! According to the Canon Museum, when asked about disassembling a Leica in hopes of producing a Japanese-made high-grade 35mm cameras, Yoshida later explained:
“I just disassembled the camera without any specific plan, but simply to take a look at each part. I found there were no special items like diamonds inside the camera. The parts were made from brass, aluminum, iron and rubber. I was surprised that when these inexpensive materials were put together into a camera, it demanded an exorbitant price. This made me angry”.

It sounds as if he was hoping to offer a more "mercifully" priced product! Hence: the Kwanon, with a logo depicting the goddess. Also, Yoshida was an ardent Buddhist. In fact, the lens he originally designed for the camera was called a "Kasyapa", named after Mahakasyapa, a disciple of Buddha.

But now Kwanon cameras or Kasyapa lenses were ever actually produced. They only ever existed as illustrations or non-functional mockups. Yoshida ended up leaving the company before any actual cameras were produced.

The Hansa Canon of 1936 was the first Canon camera. It was actually a joint project of Precision (Seiki) Optical Instruments Laboratory and Nippon Kogaku (later Nikon), who were very well established but primarily making optical products for the military such as binoculars and periscopes at that time, but looking for civilian-market products to be involved in, and discussions with the management of Precision Optical led to the Canon camera, ten years before the first Nikon camera. Nippon Kogaku not only provided the lens (a 50mm f3.5 Nikkor copy of similar Leitz), they also manufactured the viewfinder and rangefinder optics, and the lens mount. Precision Optical produced the shutter, camera chassis and housings, as well as the final assembly.

About the same time that the Hansa Canon was introduced, the company changed it's name to Japan Precision Optical Instruments Laboratory, reflecting a lot of nationalism of the era. The Hansa Canon, with Nikkor lens and a leather case, sold for about 275 yen in 1936. At it's peak, early production was about 10 units a month. It is considered the first Japanese-made, high quality, interchangeable-lens, 35mm film, rangefinder camera (looks a lot like a Leica... but also has some Contax influences... and supposedly great care was taken to avoid patent infringements with either of the German manufacturers' products).

The company was reorganized and it's name changed again in 1937, to Precision Optical Industry Co., Ltd. This is the date today's Canon Corporation recognizes as it's founding. There were other camera models developed and the first Serenar lenses being designed and prototyped at this time, although they didn't actually go into production until after WWI, in 1946 during the Occupied Japan era. From 1938 through 1945, all optical and photographic industry companies were required to dedicate their production toward the war effort and were under the control of the War Ministry. After the war, during the occupation, the photo industry was one that was tapped to help the country rebuild it's economy. This time period was very instrumental in expanding the sale of Japanese products internationally. Today's Canon Corporation recognizes the Canon J II, S and S II, all of 1946 as it's first "official" camera models.

But it might be argued that the Hansa Canon camera and it's Nikkor lens was the first "baby step" toward not just one, but two of the biggest and most influential camera and lens manufacturers in existence today!

More info and photos of a nice example of the camera and lens here: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/canon/hansa/hansa.htm

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Aug 18, 2016 16:31:56   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Don't laugh. Being military, they will probably do a study and have a manual about how far a plane drops, depending what is stuck there.


Then completely ignore the results anyway!

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