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May 16, 2012 12:01:40   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
swallowtail wrote:
Sorry about that, I'm new to all this. No Idea what happened!!!


Ping one time - One ping only Vacilli!

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May 16, 2012 13:08:05   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Just a question....Does it matter if you lose pixels when cropping if your resolution is superb? Isn't that one reason for shooting with the best lenses?

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May 16, 2012 13:49:35   #
birdpix Loc: South East Pennsylvania
 
SteveR wrote:
Just a question....Does it matter if you lose pixels when cropping if your resolution is superb? Isn't that one reason for shooting with the best lenses?


Yup, Exactly!

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May 16, 2012 14:10:40   #
shirl2sg Loc: Northern Minnesota
 
The only thing I have found out, - if I crop (CS5) for a 14x11 size, (390 resolution) I do lose some of the image. If I leave the picture as taken (orginal) and have the picture developed, they cut away even more for a 14x11, so I'd rather do the cropping myself.

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May 16, 2012 21:31:33   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
belwj wrote:
I typically shoot birds and other wildlife, and I am always out to 300 mm. I start with a 16 MP image (D7000), but after cropping I am usualy left with 2 or 3 MP, and often even less. So I am wondering if this is typical for this type of photography, and also what is the minimum MP you strive for after cropping?


Do you mean you are cropping away 7/8 of your original frame? Or is this the size of the JPEG file after your crop is accomplished? I'm a bit confused as to what you mean in your statement. The RAW file would have much larger Megabytes even after your severe crop.

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May 16, 2012 23:03:36   #
shirl2sg Loc: Northern Minnesota
 
My orginal picture says 5.4 MB on Disk 4288x2848 @25%

When I crop (size) the picture to 14x11 Resolution 390 it is then 2.3 MB 5450x4290 @16.7%

Am I sizing or cropping the picture wrong? My 14x11's when printed come out looking correct.

This is in JPeg Does that help? I haven't done any pictures in RAW yet.

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May 16, 2012 23:15:50   #
2 Dog Don Loc: Virginia Beach VA
 
If you have software that will resize and resample the image before you crop you will loose very little

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May 16, 2012 23:46:29   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
repeated post

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May 16, 2012 23:47:27   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
shirl2sg wrote:
My orginal picture says 5.4 MB on Disk 4288x2848 @25%

When I crop (size) the picture to 14x11 Resolution 390 it is then 2.3 MB 5450x4290 @16.7%

Am I sizing or cropping the picture wrong? My 14x11's when printed come out looking correct.

This is in JPeg Does that help? I haven't done any pictures in RAW yet.


That is right. The percentage is just what scale the photo is being shown on your screen, really meens nothing. If you magnify your view that percentage would get bigger.

Jim D

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May 17, 2012 00:02:59   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
It really doesn't matter what the overall size of the file is when you are done. What counts is:

1, You are happy with the photo.

2, It is cropped to the size or just slightly bigger than you want to have printed.

3, The resolution is 240 to 300 for a decent quality print.

4, You save it as a high quality jpg for printing.

As for the finial size of the finished file, it is what it is. It doesn't matter.

Jim D

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May 17, 2012 00:32:55   #
shirl2sg Loc: Northern Minnesota
 
Thanks for all the comments. I just started using Photoshop CS5 and feel like cropping to 14x11 works for me instead of just cropping to get get what I want. I'm still experimenting. PS: I love this site, usually I just read all the questions and answers...everyone is great...and I've picked up quite a bit of information.

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May 17, 2012 00:36:43   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
belwj wrote:
I typically shoot birds and other wildlife, and I am always out to 300 mm. I start with a 16 MP image (D7000), but after cropping I am usualy left with 2 or 3 MP, and often even less. So I am wondering if this is typical for this type of photography, and also what is the minimum MP you strive for after cropping?


2 to 3MP is typically considered to only be enough for a high quality 4X6 or 5X7 print. You need to move closer or use a longer lens to cause your subjects to be at least 50% of your composition so you can still have 8MP left after 50% cropping.

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May 17, 2012 05:02:36   #
singleviking Loc: Lake Sebu Eco Park, Philippines
 
shirl2sg wrote:
My orginal picture says 5.4 MB on Disk 4288x2848 @25%

When I crop (size) the picture to 14x11 Resolution 390 it is then 2.3 MB 5450x4290 @16.7%

Am I sizing or cropping the picture wrong? My 14x11's when printed come out looking correct.

This is in JPeg Does that help? I haven't done any pictures in RAW yet.


JPEG is a compressed format already and this is why the small file size. The actual file size of the photo if it were in RAW format would be much greater. Do not confuse the JPEG file size with the pixel file information contained in that file. Common mistake though.

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May 17, 2012 05:55:22   #
pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"
 
marvin Klein wrote:
I am also confused?


Same here! :roll: I use Elements 10 to crop and do color, brightness, contrast adjustments, etc. and then save the image as whatever2 or whatever3. The file size shoud remain very close to the same unless I decide to reduce it for emailing. Maybe I misunderstood the origional question.

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