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Aug 14, 2016 18:25:58   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Mac wrote:
Here is a link to the "Christian Photography" forum section. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-111-1.html
If you scroll to the bottom of any page you will find an "All Sections" Link. This will take you to all the forum sections available on UHH.


This is beautiful photography. There is no reason it should be required to be in the Christian Photography Section. Peter....Did you also find a real need to post a photo of a mosque because some fantastic photos of a church were posted? My, my, the sensitivities that expose themselves so easily.

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Aug 14, 2016 18:48:06   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
SteveR wrote:
This is beautiful photography. There is no reason it should be required to be in the Christian Photography Section. Peter....Did you also find a real need to post a photo of a mosque because some fantastic photos of a church were posted? My, my, the sensitivities that expose themselves so easily.


What are you talking about? It's always a good idea to read the posts before you start running off at the mouth. I never stated that the photos were "required" to be posted in the Christian Photography forum. If you had bothered to read the posts you would know this. If you had bothered to read the posts you would have known that the OP stated that he could not find the Christian Photography forum and that I was just providing him with a link to that forum, as well as giving him a direction on how to find all the forum sections. Also, it was not I who posted the picture of the mosque. If you had bothered to actually read the posts you would have seen this. It is YOUR sensitivities that have been exposed. In the future please read before you respond.

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Aug 14, 2016 18:53:39   #
plessner Loc: North Dakota
 
just gorgeous--great job
welcome to UHH an fun place to be!
I just today saw a video on facebook of an amazing choir performing in a chjurch and now that I see your photos it sure looks like the same church! WOW imagine that

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Aug 14, 2016 19:51:14   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
weberwest, I'm interested in your work in Iran. I spent most of 1969-1971 there, headquartered in Tehran as part of ARMISH-MAAG (USAF part). I was the "Radar Advisor to the IIAF" and a Captain O-3. I spent a lot of my time going around to the various IIAF radar sites and working with the Advisor/Tech Rep teams. I've been to Dezful, Isfahan, Shiraz, Bushehr, Tabriz, Mashad, Shahrabad, and Babolsar. I even stuck my toe in the Caspian so I could say I'd been in Russia! (Russia claims the entire sea, you know, right up to the banks.) I will say duty there wasn't too bad while the Shah was on the throne, and I left way before he was deposed. I do have some of my photos of Iran out on Flickr® but many slides have yet to be scanned. (None of them have enough detail to be considered classified.)

SteveR and Mac, please don't argue about my newbie goof. I wasn't aware that there were better places to put my post, but I do now, and that is all that matters. I'm not sure whether "Christian Photography Group" is better than "Photo Gallery"--it seems to me that the former forum is more geared to discussion and the latter to pictures.

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Aug 14, 2016 21:03:54   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Mac wrote:
What are you talking about? It's always a good idea to read the posts before you start running off at the mouth. I never stated that the photos were "required" to be posted in the Christian Photography forum. If you had bothered to read the posts you would know this. If you had bothered to read the posts you would have known that the OP stated that he could not find the Christian Photography forum and that I was just providing him with a link to that forum, as well as giving him a direction on how to find all the forum sections. Also, it was not I who posted the picture of the mosque. If you had bothered to actually read the posts you would have seen this. It is YOUR sensitivities that have been exposed. In the future please read before you respond.
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David in Dallas made the comment about the Christian Section to a previous poster who suggested he post there, whose post now seems to have disappeared. Perhaps I should have chosen that post to "reply" to, but yours seemed to be one of the two, so I just selected it. If you were just giving David the link to the Christian Photography Section, then my apologies, but it did seem that the first poster suggested that these photos should have been posted there. All photography, except boudoir and nudes, should be welcome in the Photo Gallery. I do hope that you will agree with me on this. Let's not discourage a fellow photographer because of his love of the beauty found in Churches.

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Aug 14, 2016 21:38:50   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
SteveR, I think you have just answered a query I posted a while ago in the Main Photography Discussion section. I had reviewed the 2 recommended sections and decided that Photo Gallery might be the better choice, and was asking if that would be acceptable. You, at least, seem to think it would be. (Can someone in charge move my mispositioned post to the Photo Gallery?)

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Aug 14, 2016 21:41:04   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
SteveR wrote:
This is beautiful photography. There is no reason it should be required to be in the Christian Photography Section. Peter....Did you also find a real need to post a photo of a mosque because some fantastic photos of a church were posted? My, my, the sensitivities that expose themselves so easily.


Steve, as does the hypocrisy and the bigotry. As you well know, posts such as David's excellent work, along with birds, critters and other such things are meant to be in the photo gallery or elsewhere. Not in the main photography section. Wonderfully artistry and architectural stuff though that it is, I think the main photography section is meant to be non-denominational. Personally, I love Cathedrals and Churches, rural English graveyards as photographic locations. But why not have excellent photographs of a Synagogue, a Mosque, a Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist Temple in the same [b]PHOTOGRAPHIC[/b] discussion.

Yes, Steve I felt a very real need to point out that there is a separation of religion and state. David's photographs are excellent, I aspire to be able to make similar images. I don't find them offensive in any way, nor am I sensitive, in fact it is the opposite. My reason for posting another excellent image of a religious site was to point out that there were other excellent architectural and cultural opportunities available.

If photography is the goal, then perhaps we should have an open mind. If other things are the goal, then perhaps the discussion should be in other sections.

If this is an open, inclusive and tolerant forum, the what is wrong with appreciating good photography of architecture from other cultures or religions?

Pray, tell me, Sir, what is wrong with that?

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Aug 14, 2016 21:59:05   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
David in Dallas wrote:
weberwest, I'm interested in your work in Iran. I spent most of 1969-1971 there, headquartered in Tehran as part of ARMISH-MAAG (USAF part). I was the "Radar Advisor to the IIAF" and a Captain O-3. I spent a lot of my time going around to the various IIAF radar sites and working with the Advisor/Tech Rep teams. I've been to Dezful, Isfahan, Shiraz, Bushehr, Tabriz, Mashad, Shahrabad, and Babolsar. I even stuck my toe in the Caspian so I could say I'd been in Russia! (Russia claims the entire sea, you know, right up to the banks.) I will say duty there wasn't too bad while the Shah was on the throne, and I left way before he was deposed. I do have some of my photos of Iran out on Flickr® but many slides have yet to be scanned. (None of them have enough detail to be considered classified.)

SteveR and Mac, please don't argue about my newbie goof. I wasn't aware that there were better places to put my post, but I do now, and that is all that matters. I'm not sure whether "Christian Photography Group" is better than "Photo Gallery"--it seems to me that the former forum is more geared to discussion and the latter to pictures.
weberwest, I'm interested in your work in Iran. I... (show quote)


David, your work and attitude is excellent. I'm very glad that I have seen it, and really appreciate good photographs of churches, cathedrals, stained glass windows etc. The main thing is that if you wish to post images, the photo gallery is the preferred location. Could be a fish, a loaf of bread, a bunch of lumber, or a bag of nails, or any other topic.

Unfortunately we have some people that have a political or religious agenda on this site. Look at their sig lines for an indication. Why would anyone object to me posting an excellent photograph of a mosque unless they had an agenda that went beyond photography?

Please keep posting your work, but also please be aware that this is a multi-national and multi cultural site. Although I have no problem with your work, in fact I admire it, I also know people that such imagery can cause discomfort and consternation. This is the reason for multiple sections, and putting pictures in the photo gallery.

It is excellent work. Please keep it coming, just look at relevant sections.

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Aug 14, 2016 22:04:26   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
David - outstanding work. Thank you for sharing. And I think you posted in the correct section.

When I started reading this topic, I did not know that there was a Christian photography section. Now I do.

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Aug 14, 2016 22:44:15   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
[quote=Peterff]Steve, as does the hypocrisy and the bigotry. As you well know, posts such as David's excellent work, along with birds, critters and other such things are meant to be in the photo gallery or elsewhere. Not in the main photography section. Wonderfully artistry and architectural stuff though that it is, I think the main photography section is meant to be non-denominational. Personally, I love Cathedrals and Churches, rural English graveyards as photographic locations. But why not have excellent photographs of a Synagogue, a Mosque, a Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist Temple in the same [b]PHOTOGRAPHIC[/b] discussion.

Yes, Steve I felt a very real need to point out that there is a separation of religion and state. David's photographs are excellent, I aspire to be able to make similar images. I don't find them offensive in any way, nor am I sensitive, in fact it is the opposite. My reason for posting another excellent image of a religious site was to point out that there were other excellent architectural and cultural opportunities available.

If photography is the goal, then perhaps we should have an open mind. If other things are the goal, then perhaps the discussion should be in other sections.

If this is an open, inclusive and tolerant forum, the what is wrong with appreciating good photography of architecture from other cultures or religions?

If it's an open, inclusive and free forum, Peter....then there's no need to post a mosque when somebody posts photos of a Church.

Pray, tell me, Sir, what is wrong with that?[/quote]

The problem, Peter, is that you felt the need to hijack another person's excellent post for your personal agenda, which you just so completely explained to us all.

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Aug 15, 2016 08:10:05   #
Millismote Loc: Massachusetts
 
magnificent.

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Aug 15, 2016 08:13:40   #
frjack Loc: Boston, MA
 
Gorgeous shots. Did you stumble across St. Julien le Pauvre on the left bank? Would love to see some photos of it. Haven't been in Paris in 35 years but cannot get the church out of my thoughts. Attended both a concert and, the following day, Mass, in that splendid setting. It is a Melkite Rite Church. Very old. Not huge but splendid. Excellent work. Keep posting.

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Aug 15, 2016 08:44:12   #
rmm0605 Loc: Atlanta GA
 
David in Dallas wrote:
When folks go to Paris, France, whether they use "canned" tours or do it on their own, most of them only see 3 churches: Notre Dame Cathedral; Sainte-Chapelle; and the Sacred Heart Basilica of Montmartre (Sacre-Coeur). Notre Dame and Sainte-Chapelle are located near each other on the Ile de la Cité and Sacre-Coeur is somewhat farther afield (but worth it). Paris, however, has many other churches that are fully deserving of a visitation, and (being a "church person") I often attempt to find and enter some of the lesser-known ones when I tour. This photo essay will cover the Church of Saint Severin, which is located a gentle walk from the Ile de la Cité, and very lovely inside.

This is what it looks like from the street

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by David Casteel, on Flickr

And once inside, this is what greets your eyes

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by David Casteel, on Flickr

This is a closer view of the Main Organ at the rear

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by David Casteel, on Flickr

From the rear, looking toward the Altar

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by David Casteel, on Flickr

And here is a closer view of the Chancel

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by David Casteel, on Flickr

Besides the big Main Organ, there is a smaller one in the Choir

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However, the real beauty of this church is its stained glass windows. I photographed most of them and I'm going to show all I took

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And the Cloisters

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And now I hope that some of you will consider looking up and visiting this lovely church when you tour in Paris, France.
When folks go to Paris, France, whether they use &... (show quote)


This is a newer church (not pre-Renaissance). How old are the windows? They're absolutely remarkable.

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Aug 15, 2016 08:44:21   #
Cape Codder Loc: Cape Cod
 
Thanks for sharing this wonderful set of pictures! I don't see why it has to go to the Christian website as I think that these photographs would be of interest photographically to many.

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Aug 15, 2016 09:17:14   #
bee7474 Loc: Selah, Wa
 
Wish I could, but will have to just tour your photos which are great. Thank you

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