Living under a socialist goverment: My wife living most of her life under the socialist goverment of the former soviet union has told me many stories of everyday life in her country of...

lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

My wife living most of her life under the socialist goverment of the former soviet union has told me many stories of everyday life in her country of Ukraine. I think if American people knew what everyday life was about under a socialist society they would thank God they were born in America. Free education? Yes, but not free. Teens and young adults would have to go and work in the fields several times a year to plant and harvest the crops. No migrants needed. Free labor. Are you homeless? Don't worry the goverment will give you a job. If it's just sweeping the streets. If you are able to work but refuse you go to prison. If you have a mental problem they put you in a mental hospital. I will post more soon.

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

Would her experiences be typical of all over the Soviet Union. As I read some histories of WW2, the Ukraine seemed to be a harsh country.

lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

I think so, she has family in russia and estonia and they all agreed during some of our family get togethers.

lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

Thanks John for your reply, Yes Ukrainians have been k**led by the millions by stalin and now by the thousands by putin. They just want to live in peace and get on with their lives.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Read any books or bios of people who lived through it or defected to the west. It was a mess run by "true believers"* and made worse by Stalin and his preferred "central planning"** model. The early leaders believed the companies/farms/etc should be owned by the workers but have to compete against each other for market share quality etc. It probably would not have made the system very successful but it wouldn't have been as bad as it was.

The system was basically a functional family model that doesn't work when the "family" gets so big that individuals feel no love or loyalty to most of those faceless people they don't know. The system would not even have worked if the world was inhabited by angels and saints, after all Lucifer was the head angel and a lot of the saints have been pretty weird also.

*and many who didn't believe but took advantage to feather their own nests
**no one central planning committee can possibly know all that is needed to plan everything.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

lARRY1 wrote:

My wife living most of her life under the socialis... (show quote)

.....and the "free" education means the state determines where you go and what you study.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

lARRY1 wrote:

My wife living most of her life under the socialis... (show quote)

Harvesting to pay for schooling? Don't the conservatives propose compulsory national service here?

Homeless. The government gives you make-work? Isn't this what Conservative's propose to happen here?

Mental Porblem? The Government puts you in a mental hospital. In this country Reagan kicked you out of your mental hospital. The first sounds more compassionate to me.

How much rent did your wife pay for her housing?

green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20

bit of a difference between a socialist dictatorship and a socialist democracy... for those that don't understand... capitalism and socialism are economic systems... democracy and dictatorships are governing systems.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

green wrote:

bit of a difference between a socialist dictatorship and a socialist democracy... for those that don't understand... capitalism and socialism are economic systems... democracy and dictatorships are governing systems.

Exactly right, but don't hope for understanding here.

green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20

Twardlow wrote:

Exactly right, but don't hope for understanding here.

no, I know... McCarthy got to these people when their brains were developing.

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Twardlow wrote:

Harvesting to pay for schooling? Don't the conservatives propose compulsory national service here?

Homeless. The government gives you make-work? Isn't this what Conservative's propose to happen here?

Mental Porblem? The Government puts you in a mental hospital. In this country Reagan kicked you out of your mental hospital. The first sounds more compassionate to me.

How much rent did your wife pay for her housing?

Liar! ACLU and Libtards forced them out of the mental hospitals through court actions. YOU should know about this Twat, YOU were one of those released that should have been kept inside! So don't try to rewrite history!

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

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lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

Twardlow wrote:

Harvesting to pay for schooling? Don't the conservatives propose compulsory national service here?

Homeless. The government gives you make-work? Isn't this what Conservative's propose to happen here?

Mental Porblem? The Government puts you in a mental hospital. In this country Reagan kicked you out of your mental hospital. The first sounds more compassionate to me.

How much rent did your wife pay for her housing?

Thanks Mr. Twardlow for your reply. I'll try and answer your questions as best as I can. There was no paying for schooling. It was free. As far as working on the farms the kids loved it. A good chance for socializing and meeting new friends. The boys would stay in one dorm and the girls in another. With strict chaperones of course. As far as a homeless person, if they could physically work at any job the goverment needed, they would have to. If they had a serious disability then they would be sent to a special hospital for care. That's another story. She payed no rent for housing, just utilities which wasn't much but you didn't get much pay either. She had no choice as to what part of the city your apartment was located. It was assigned as to how many family members you had. Man and woman, one room apartment. Man, woman and one child one room apartment, two children two room apartment and so on.Life was centered around family for support. No food stamps, no welfare payments, the goverment controlled everything in your daily life.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

lARRY1 wrote:

Thanks Mr. Twardlow for your reply. I'll try and a... (show quote)

Was there much need for food stamps or welfare payments?

lARRY1 Loc: southern nc

Twardlow wrote:

Was there much need for food stamps or welfare payments?

Of course there was,but you knew there wasn't any so families came together as one to provide for all.