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Aug 11, 2016 14:07:18   #
kd7eir Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® out there harping that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment, here is what's required to repeal a constitutional amendment.You will notice that the president has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.


Article V, US CONSTITUTION -

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.

It takes 66% of the entire Congress, or 66% of all the states, to propose an amendment to the US Constitution. THEN it takes 75% of all the states to agree to the amendment to the US Constitution.

But go ahead and keep LYING that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd Amendment! Just like you LIED that Obama was going to repeal the 2nd Amendment!

There used to be a time in the USA when a man would be ASHAMED to be caught in a lie, but today's republican wears LYING like a regal crown.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:25:14   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Well, I looked up liar in my Webster's Dictionary and low and behold there was Hillary's photo.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:28:29   #
Past Pro Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
 
Hal81 wrote:
Well, I looked up liar in my Webster's Dictionary and low and behold there was Hillary's photo.


I saw that photo also!!!!

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Aug 11, 2016 14:28:37   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Hal81 wrote:
Well, I looked up liar in my Webster's Dictionary and low and behold there was Hillary's photo.
don't laugh, Hal... your picture's in there under "curmudgeon".

curmudgeon
noun cur·mud·geon \(ˌ)kər-ˈmə-jən\

1. a person (especially an old man) who is easily annoyed or angered and who often complains
Source

2. http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2012/2/18/thumb-1329624836989-dsc_0189.jpg

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Aug 11, 2016 14:31:15   #
micolh Loc: NYC
 
kd7eir wrote:
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® out there harping that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment, here is what's required to repeal a constitutional amendment.You will notice that the president has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.


Article V, US CONSTITUTION -

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.

It takes 66% of the entire Congress, or 66% of all the states, to propose an amendment to the US Constitution. THEN it takes 75% of all the states to agree to the amendment to the US Constitution.

But go ahead and keep LYING that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd Amendment! Just like you LIED that Obama was going to repeal the 2nd Amendment!

There used to be a time in the USA when a man would be ASHAMED to be caught in a lie, but today's republican wears LYING like a regal crown.
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® ou... (show quote)


What a HYPOCRITE!!! Are you so naive and befuddled as to think that Clinton is anything other a lying, hypocritical, self serving. egotistical whore politician??? Her history is of nothing but lies and deceit. How can you ever think she is an honest and t***hful person?? Have you been living under a rock?? Are you so addicted to a political party that the t***h means nothing to you? In November our choice will be between Use and Less. The loser will be the American people. These two morons in a country as great as ours is all we have to offer??

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Aug 11, 2016 14:34:57   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
kd7eir wrote:
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® out there harping that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment, here is what's required to repeal a constitutional amendment.You will notice that the president has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.


Article V, US CONSTITUTION -

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.

It takes 66% of the entire Congress, or 66% of all the states, to propose an amendment to the US Constitution. THEN it takes 75% of all the states to agree to the amendment to the US Constitution.

But go ahead and keep LYING that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd Amendment! Just like you LIED that Obama was going to repeal the 2nd Amendment!

There used to be a time in the USA when a man would be ASHAMED to be caught in a lie, but today's republican wears LYING like a regal crown.
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® ou... (show quote)


Who's "harping"? Of course she by herself can't "repeal" the 2nd. Duh. But she can REALLY fuck it up...

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Aug 11, 2016 14:35:40   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
micolh wrote:
What a HYPOCRITE!!! Are you so naive and befuddled as to think that Clinton is anything other a lying, hypocritical, self serving. egotistical whore politician??? Her history is of nothing but lies and deceit. How can you ever think she is an honest and t***hful person?? Have you been living under a rock?? Are you so addicted to a political party that the t***h means nothing to you? In November our choice will be between Use and Less. The loser will be the American people. These two morons in a country as great as ours is all we have to offer??
What a HYPOCRITE!!! Are you so naive and befuddled... (show quote)
you may have your terms mixed up... his post had to do with the procedures for changing an amendment....

I can only think by your reply that you believe Hillary will be able to circumvent the amendment process (with her lying sk**lz) and get rid of the second amendment.... where is the hypocrisy? BTW, all politicians lie... this is old news.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:39:12   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
green wrote:
don't laugh, Hal... your picture's in there under "curmudgeon".

curmudgeon
noun cur·mud·geon \(ˌ)kər-ˈmə-jən\

1. a person (especially an old man) who is easily annoyed or angered and who often complains
Source

2. http://static.uglyhedgehog.com/upload/2012/2/18/thumb-1329624836989-dsc_0189.jpg


Damm, you got me. But after 86 years on this earth Im smart enough not to be fooled by Hillary the liar and her pervert husband Billy boy. Very sad you haven't seen through these loosers. You may just get smarter with age if you haven't been brain washed too much. Ill keep you in my prayers.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:41:12   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
kd7eir wrote:
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® out there harping that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment, here is what's required to repeal a constitutional amendment.You will notice that the president has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.


Article V, US CONSTITUTION -

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.

It takes 66% of the entire Congress, or 66% of all the states, to propose an amendment to the US Constitution. THEN it takes 75% of all the states to agree to the amendment to the US Constitution.

But go ahead and keep LYING that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd Amendment! Just like you LIED that Obama was going to repeal the 2nd Amendment!

There used to be a time in the USA when a man would be ASHAMED to be caught in a lie, but today's republican wears LYING like a regal crown.
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® ou... (show quote)


No, a president cannot repeal or amend the Constitution.

But by picking the "right" people for the Supreme Court who will rule from beliefs/politics rather than the Constitution itself the same results can be achieved.

A "de facto" repeal/amendment rather than a "de jure" repeal/amendment.

The only thing stopping that is a Senate which refuses to confirm those nominations.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:44:35   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
robertjerl wrote:
No, a president cannot repeal or amend the Constitution.
But by picking the "right" people for the Supreme Court who will rule from beliefs/politics rather than the Constitution itself the same results can be achieved.
The only thing stopping that is a Senate which refuses to confirm those nominations.


There is a lot of things a president cant do. But this one seems to pick up his magic pen and get what he wants bypassing congress.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:46:04   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Hal81 wrote:
Damm, you got me. But after 86 years on this earth Im smart enough not to be fooled by Hillary the liar and her pervert husband Billy boy. Very sad you haven't seen through these loosers. You may just get smarter with age if you haven't been brain washed too much. Ill keep you in my prayers.
oh... I see through both LIARS/T*****RS I'm can't honestly v**e for either one. nobody will be happy for the next 4 years.

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Aug 11, 2016 14:57:45   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
kd7eir wrote:
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® out there harping that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment, here is what's required to repeal a constitutional amendment.You will notice that the president has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.


Article V, US CONSTITUTION -

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.

It takes 66% of the entire Congress, or 66% of all the states, to propose an amendment to the US Constitution. THEN it takes 75% of all the states to agree to the amendment to the US Constitution.

But go ahead and keep LYING that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd Amendment! Just like you LIED that Obama was going to repeal the 2nd Amendment!

There used to be a time in the USA when a man would be ASHAMED to be caught in a lie, but today's republican wears LYING like a regal crown.
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® ou... (show quote)


For repeal you are correct, however a supreme court ruling has the effect of law, A justice who believes that the Constitution is a flexible document can rule that the second ammendment OONLY applies to a m*****a and that a m*****a is in =effect an army. And that as average citizens are not in the Army they have no right to bear arms. And therefore all the arms in the possesion of citizens not a member of the armed forces must turn over all arms to the federal authorities. The supreme court has the ability to negate any constitutional guarantee it wishes. The court after all, in it's decision to uphold the ACA mandate for the first time gave the congress the right to tax a non activity. Don't buy health care pay a tax. As a result the Congress canpass a law which states- Don't grow corn- pay a tax. Don't but an American made car -pay a tax. In fact the framers did not give the Supreme Court the power to overturn ANY law. That power is reserved ONLY to the congress, by repeal. The Court TOOK that power in Marbury v Madison. No where in the constitution is there any mention of the Court having the ability to rule on ANY law. I suggest that you actually know the constitution before making incorrect statements about it Another thing about the constitution and the laws of the US. The president hasmany powers not granted to him in the constitution. Through the powers of regulations, he/shecan put any industry out of existence. The automoblie industry could be k**led by EPA regulations, all cars and trucks MUSt get 50 miles/gallon. Such a regulation would effectively k**l the car and truck industry. It need not be a law, but it has the effect of law. All businesses with more that 2 employes MUST provide health insurance. All restaurants must privide seperate bathrooms for 25 seperate categories of patrons. That would end the restaurant business--as absurd as it may sound the president through one or another agencyhas this kind of power. As commander in Chief the president could stop ALL Navy shipping and ALL nNavy ships by calling on the EPA and regulate the polluting nature ofall Navy vessels. Again absurd but the president has that kind of power through regulations.

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Aug 11, 2016 15:06:29   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
kd7eir wrote:
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® out there harping that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd amendment, here is what's required to repeal a constitutional amendment.You will notice that the president has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS.


Article V, US CONSTITUTION -

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.

It takes 66% of the entire Congress, or 66% of all the states, to propose an amendment to the US Constitution. THEN it takes 75% of all the states to agree to the amendment to the US Constitution.

But go ahead and keep LYING that Hillary is going to repeal the 2nd Amendment! Just like you LIED that Obama was going to repeal the 2nd Amendment!

There used to be a time in the USA when a man would be ASHAMED to be caught in a lie, but today's republican wears LYING like a regal crown.
For all those Constitutional American Patriots® ou... (show quote)



You need to face reality in todays world.
Obama has set the stage for the President to do anything they want,
and Congress has allowed this to happen.
If Hillary wins .... the U.S.A. is done.

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Aug 11, 2016 15:58:21   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
The sky will fall ....

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Aug 11, 2016 16:30:48   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
mwalsh wrote:
The sky will fall ....
hopefully it's not that heavy

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