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Aug 8, 2016 20:49:58   #
jmdenver Loc: Colorado
 
Can anyone confirm the date and manufacture of this automobile? As best as I have been able to determine, it is a 1940 Packard 120 with a straight 8. Does this seem plausible? Obviously in need of some TLC but a nice prop for my son. Don't think we're ready for this level of restoration.


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Aug 8, 2016 21:04:11   #
BassmanBruce Loc: Middle of the Mitten
 
Nice set, what a gorgeous car in it's day.
Your last shot with the daiseys is pretty apropo. (And with a nice perspective)

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Aug 8, 2016 21:05:56   #
jmdenver Loc: Colorado
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
Nice set, what a gorgeous car in it's day.
Your last shot with the daiseys is pretty apropo. (And with a nice perspective)


Thanks BassmanBruce. Yes, it's definitely pushing up some daisies.

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Aug 8, 2016 21:26:23   #
joe west Loc: Taylor, Michigan
 
jmdenver wrote:
Can anyone confirm the date and manufacture of this automobile? As best as I have been able to determine, it is a 1940 Packard 120 with a straight 8. Does this seem plausible? Obviously in need of some TLC but a nice prop for my son. Don't think we're ready for this level of restoration.


wow that car needs alot of work..

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Aug 8, 2016 21:35:34   #
Kuzano
 
jmdenver wrote:
Can anyone confirm the date and manufacture of this automobile? As best as I have been able to determine, it is a 1940 Packard 120 with a straight 8. Does this seem plausible? Obviously in need of some TLC but a nice prop for my son. Don't think we're ready for this level of restoration.


In the Biz, that's what is commonly referred to as an RWP automobile. Generally advertized as "Ran When Parked". Your mission, if you choose to take it, is to change the fluids, put in a battery and get it running. PFFFFFFFFFFFTZ tape dissolves.

You find the likes of these cars particularly on a web site called www.bat.com.... the bat stands for Bring a Trailer. Prices and condition vary. Depending on your sons age this could be along term "bonding" project. Don't worry about the experience. It's OJT if you DIY it?

Otherwise its spend about $300,000 and you end up with a $150,000 car. That's the classic restoration business. It's kept me penniless most of my life. Most of the cars you see at Barrett Jackson style auctions have about twice as much invested in restoration as they bring at auction. It's a rich man's sport.... Men who need to lose money specifically for tax reasons.

I have a friend who does nothing pretty much all day long who cuts out rusted metal and welds in fresh metal after forming it. A discussion between us goes pretty much like this when he takes me out to look at one of his acquisitions.

Me "Wow, you'll never be able to restore that!"

His response "Oh yeah?" and then he proceeds to do it. After all, these cars were built by hand in the first place in most cases. Yes it's a Packard. The grille alone is the first clue.

In extremely good condition when looked at with the right eyes.

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Aug 8, 2016 22:20:22   #
jmdenver Loc: Colorado
 
Kuzano wrote:
In the Biz, that's what is commonly referred to as an RWP automobile. Generally advertized as "Ran When Parked". Your mission, if you choose to take it, is to change the fluids, put in a battery and get it running. PFFFFFFFFFFFTZ tape dissolves.

You find the likes of these cars particularly on a web site called www.bat.com.... the bat stands for Bring a Trailer. Prices and condition vary. Depending on your sons age this could be along term "bonding" project. Don't worry about the experience. It's OJT if you DIY it?

Otherwise its spend about $300,000 and you end up with a $150,000 car. That's the classic restoration business. It's kept me penniless most of my life. Most of the cars you see at Barrett Jackson style auctions have about twice as much invested in restoration as they bring at auction. It's a rich man's sport.... Men who need to lose money specifically for tax reasons.

I have a friend who does nothing pretty much all day long who cuts out rusted metal and welds in fresh metal after forming it. A discussion between us goes pretty much like this when he takes me out to look at one of his acquisitions.

Me "Wow, you'll never be able to restore that!"

His response "Oh yeah?" and then he proceeds to do it. After all, these cars were built by hand in the first place in most cases. Yes it's a Packard. The grille alone is the first clue.

In extremely good condition when looked at with the right eyes.
In the Biz, that's what is commonly referred to as... (show quote)


Thanks Kuzano. Since I don't fall into the category of "rich man" and I don't need a tax loss, I'll take all you said under advisement. In any case, it is always fun to dream.

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Aug 8, 2016 22:27:23   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
I don't recognize the Packard emblem, didn't see many of them when I was young but the first car I remember my family owning was a 1942 Chevrolet and the styling of the Packard, fender mounted headlights, etc. match up with the style of that period as I remember it. So, yeah, it probably is a 1940. Nice photos too,

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Aug 9, 2016 09:13:26   #
LennyP4868 Loc: NJ
 
Great shots I think you can't take enough of them. There is so much detail Great job

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Aug 9, 2016 10:32:35   #
FL Streetrodder
 
jmdenver wrote:
Can anyone confirm the date and manufacture of this automobile? As best as I have been able to determine, it is a 1940 Packard 120 with a straight 8. Does this seem plausible? Obviously in need of some TLC but a nice prop for my son. Don't think we're ready for this level of restoration.


After looking at the photos in my reference book Encyclopedia of American Cars, it definitely could be a 1940 model. However, this model remained virtually unchanged from 1938 to 1940 so without more information such as VIN numbers it is almost impossible to make a positive ID from your photos.

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Aug 9, 2016 10:34:59   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
As stated, hard to tell...
For a little history on the car, with lots of pictures - here is a link to the Packard page of the Old Car and Truck Pictures website: http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Packard/1940.html

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Aug 9, 2016 11:17:07   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Very good set JM.

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Aug 9, 2016 11:53:49   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
One of the most important considerations often overlooked, is if all of the trim is there, often times the most difficult of parts to round up. On most of these older cars no one makes after market parts, like those now made for Mustangs and Mopars for example. Nice old car, worth some bucks to the right guy. 1940 Packard , 8 models that year, 3hp choices, 100, 120, 160. Lowest price was $996=$16,827 today. Highest priced was $2,554=$43,148. This is a 120 (14 sub models of this one) assume it's a base 4 door, $1160=$19,597. Hope this helps.

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Aug 9, 2016 12:56:16   #
jmdenver Loc: Colorado
 
One Rude Dawg wrote:
One of the most important considerations often overlooked, is if all of the trim is there, often times the most difficult of parts to round up. On most of these older cars no one makes after market parts, like those now made for Mustangs and Mopars for example. Nice old car, worth some bucks to the right guy. 1940 Packard , 8 models that year, 3hp choices, 100, 120, 160. Lowest price was $996=$16,827 today. Highest priced was $2,554=$43,148. This is a 120 (14 sub models of this one) assume it's a base 4 door, $1160=$19,597. Hope this helps.
One of the most important considerations often ove... (show quote)


Many thanks. Very informative.

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Aug 9, 2016 18:15:30   #
Emp Loc: new york state nassau county
 
Nice!!!

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Aug 9, 2016 18:22:09   #
Speedy Loc: Alabama
 
It would make a nice Rat Rod. Nice shots.

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