Jack, I find your reprimand of those who posted negative comments about the model interesting but almost verging on hypocritical, especially given that about 2.5 hours later you post two photos of a lovely young Playboy model. Stephy is definitely a contrast to the subject of the photos in this thread. In fact, she is so attractive and co completely comfortable with posing that I think it would be a real challenge to make her look unattractive. There really is no comparison between Stephy C and Tattooed Beauty because they are worlds apart in age, figure, body shape, skin health, face, attractiveness, and I'll bet even personality. Tattooed Beauty is obviously willing to pose nude, even fully exposed, but that does not make up for what she lacks in "sex appeal" as presented in these photos.

A few folks have brought up the notion that there is still beauty in older women -- and men -- despite their bodies showing the effects of age. I fully agree with that notion, and I feel it is the responsibility of the photographer to recognize the specific features/attributes that exemplify the beauty and strength of maturity. There are countless really excellent portraits of wrinkled leathery-skinned men and women where those very traits are captured and capitalized upon. Those images tell stories of hardship, or experience, or wisdom, or hatred, or anguish, or acceptance of their lot in life and inner peace, etc, etc. And they do it because of good composition, posing and lighting. Most importantly, those models/subjects don't show their "privates" to convey those characteristics.

Tattooed Beauty has a few years behind her and I am sure a talented portrait photographer could do wonders with her, but stick to mid-chest and upward. Such photos would definitely not be glamour shots -- those days are gone for her -- but they could really make a statement. As I said in my earlier comments, the photos in this thread have no message for me and serve no purpose other than to let the model expose herself... often a bit too much.

So if we are not to criticize the model/subject, then my criticism is that the photographer failed to see this woman's strengths and instead presented her weaknesses and flaws in snapshot fashion. Had she asked me to photograph her I would have suggested she remain dressed. If she insisted on nudity I would have tried for discrete hints of nakedness rather than "here I am" poses. And if she further insisted on having crotch shots taken I would have given them to her for her collection, but I would not have posted them on an open forum under my name to be seen as representative of my skills. I have seen much better work from jsmangis in the past, and look for ward to more good photos in the future. This was not one of his -- nor Tattooed Beauty's -- finest moments.

Jack, I find your reprimand of those who posted negative comments about the model interesting but almost verging on hypocritical, especially given that about 2.5 hours later you post two photos of a lovely young Playboy model. Stephy is definitely a contrast to the subject of the photos in this thread. ........

So if we are not to criticize the model/subject, then my criticism is that the photographer failed to see this woman's strengths and instead presented her weaknesses and flaws in snapshot fashion. Had she asked me to photograph her I would have suggested she remain dressed. If she insisted on nudity I would have tried for discrete hints of nakedness rather than "here I am" poses. And if she further insisted on having crotch shots taken I would have given them to her for her collection, but I would not have posted them on an open forum under my name to be seen as representative of my skills. I have seen much better work from jsmangis in the past, and look for ward to more good photos in the future. This was not one of his -- nor Tattooed Beauty's -- finest moments.

Tattooed beauty is a contradiction in terms. No tattoo ever made anyone beautiful. Quite the opposite, it confers ugliness of the worst kind on human flesh.

Tattooed beauty is a contradiction in terms. No tattoo ever made anyone beautiful. Quite the opposite, it confers ugliness of the worst kind on human flesh.

Tattooed beauty is a contradiction in terms. No tattoo ever made anyone beautiful. Quite the opposite, it confers ugliness of the worst kind on human flesh.