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My 2 pet peeves about portrait photography. What are yours?
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May 15, 2012 23:13:37   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
Photo One wrote:
Hi MWAC. Unless you have ever taken 500 (High School Seniors) portraits I don't think you understand what the photographer is trying to accomplish. We make our money by getting a good expresion on there face, and to see that there hair isn't sticking out etc. No, we never did any "as you call it" inappropriate shots. There was always a female in my camera room at all times. Her job was to see that the subject's hair and clothing was taken care of. My job as the photopragher was posing, lighting, and taking there picture. As the owner of the studio, I wanted them to have the very best senior picture possible. If you have the mother sitting in the camera room watching it is very uncomfortable for the seniors, and there eyes are always wondering over to there mother, or the mother is saying something that distract them.

I hope you understand what I am trying to explain. I have been doing photography for over 35 years, and 90 persent of that was portraits.
Hi MWAC. Unless you have ever taken 500 (High Scho... (show quote)


VERY WISE!!!!

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May 15, 2012 23:25:56   #
Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now
 
djw60 wrote:
My 2 biggest pet peeves about portrait photography:
1. Children with dirty faces
2. Relatives showing up, (by surprise) yeah right!

I do on location portrait sessions with families, and I can't tell you how many times I have arrived at a persons home and the family is "ready" for the portraits to start, with children with food or dirt on their little faces.
Really?? Do you really think I am going to do this with dirty looking children!
And the parents don't seem to mind.
So now, I always have some baby wipes with me and ask the parents to clean them up a bit.
I ask nicely of course, and the parents usually always say, "oh, I didn't realize it was there"!
No? How can you not notice chocolate all around a childs mouth??!!

And #2, I am at a family's house to do a session, and about 5 minutes into it here arrives the wives sister, husband, and 2 children. Surprise!
The sister says, "oh, I didn't realize you guys were having this done today"!
Yeah, right!
So of course then, it's "do you think you can get my niece and nephews pics with our kids?".
Then, their family too, and before you know it, I am doing a photo session of 2 different families for the price of one!

And being the nice person that I am, and can't say no, I do it!

Thank goodness this doesn't happen too often, (the food on the face does though).

What are some of your pet peeves?
Am I the only one these things happen to?

:?
My 2 biggest pet peeves about portrait photography... (show quote)


Yes, the nice finish last, and only those that lie down get walked on. Simply say, "oh I'd love to make an appointment and come do your family too, but I have other appointments and business today. Here is my rate sheet and phone. Please give me a call !"
Michael O' soccermick33@yahoo.com

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May 16, 2012 01:06:48   #
Lazy Old Coot Loc: Gainesville, Florida
 
[quote=bkyser]
bkyser wrote:

I want them to show their personality. The family shots I sell most of, are ones with the adults perfectly posed, and the kids acting like ..... kids. Parents seem to love that little Johnny is making a face when everyone else looks perfect. It really makes a statement. I've even gone so far as to ask a kid to do one "goofy" pose at the end, and that is always the ones the parents pick.


Parents, at least most parents, like to have pictures of their kids acting like kids. As a perfect example, look at the shot MWAC picked for her Avatar!! ......... Coot

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May 16, 2012 02:22:49   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
djw60 wrote:
Bob101 wrote:
Why not make a Contract for what their requesting, once they sign it .. no extras.

when the relatives show up, ask them which photo Package they would like. This way they see it's going to cost them money. Your off the hook being taken advantage of.

Yours is a Business, not a free will neighbor policy.


Hmm, that seems like a good idea. Thanks Bob.
I do have them sign a contract, but I do not have that subject addressed in it. It may be time to add that.

I understand that this type of thing with extra people showing up usually only happens once in a while.
But I can also tell which ones are accidental and which were planned ahead of time.
It just annoys me.
quote=Bob101 Why not make a Contract for what the... (show quote)


Add two clauses to the contract:

1. If the rugrats are not ready, you will wait for them at $100 per quarter hour (in addition to already-established fees), or you can leave and they owe you $250 for your having shown up.

2. If anyone else shows up, you can either wait until they leave or you can leave - again at the rates quoted above.

Plug in your own amounts, but make them high enough to show you mean business, and enforce the contract.

Have a lawyer look over the contract to eliminate loopholes. (S)he might even write the contract for a free sitting - a win-win deal.

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May 16, 2012 13:59:50   #
digicamking Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I had a portrait and wedding studio for many years and I photographed high school seniors also (400 + per year) I allowed parents and friends in the camera room all the time. I made the session fun for both and increased sales by being enthusiastic about a particular shot (not every shot) and would get excited about it and have mom or whoever was there to look thru the viewfinder of the camera so they could see that shot. It increased sales. I also involved them in the outdoor sessions by having them hold the reflectors. Myreputation was great andI had many many compliments from parents and students as to how much fun the session was. My $ average was always very high. Just saying

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May 16, 2012 14:09:08   #
Photo One Loc: Clearwater Florida
 
I also doubled my sales. I was selling 16x20, 20x24, plus frames, and custom frames to seniors, in the studio, and on location.

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May 16, 2012 14:27:36   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
digicamking-Photo One- And all the other - old time photographers on this site. I think we are a dieing breed. I worked for two studiuos before I went in busness for myself. I retired in 93. When I hear about this new breed of wedding photographers That say take 2000 photos at a wedding I wonder if the bride has any time to enjoy her own wedding. I never took more than 120 photos at any wedding I ever shot. I know times have changed but WOW.

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May 16, 2012 14:42:22   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
Hal81 wrote:
digicamking-Photo One- And all the other - old time photographers on this site. I think we are a dieing breed. I worked for two studiuos before I went in busness for myself. I retired in 93. When I hear about this new breed of wedding photographers That say take 2000 photos at a wedding I wonder if the bride has any time to enjoy her own wedding. I never took more than 120 photos at any wedding I ever shot. I know times have changed but WOW.


What Hal said!

PLUS, another pet peeve...the way parents teach their children to smile those HUGE fake smiles!

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May 16, 2012 23:53:49   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Horseart wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
digicamking-Photo One- And all the other - old time photographers on this site. I think we are a dieing breed. I worked for two studiuos before I went in busness for myself. I retired in 93. When I hear about this new breed of wedding photographers That say take 2000 photos at a wedding I wonder if the bride has any time to enjoy her own wedding. I never took more than 120 photos at any wedding I ever shot. I know times have changed but WOW.


What Hal said!

PLUS, another pet peeve...the way parents teach their children to smile those HUGE fake smiles!
quote=Hal81 digicamking-Photo One- And all the ot... (show quote)


Those aren't smiles. It's gas - or worse.

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May 17, 2012 00:00:18   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
Bill41 wrote:
Horseart wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
digicamking-Photo One- And all the other - old time photographers on this site. I think we are a dieing breed. I worked for two studiuos before I went in busness for myself. I retired in 93. When I hear about this new breed of wedding photographers That say take 2000 photos at a wedding I wonder if the bride has any time to enjoy her own wedding. I never took more than 120 photos at any wedding I ever shot. I know times have changed but WOW.


What Hal said!

PLUS, another pet peeve...the way parents teach their children to smile those HUGE fake smiles!
quote=Hal81 digicamking-Photo One- And all the ot... (show quote)


Those aren't smiles. It's gas - or worse.
quote=Horseart quote=Hal81 digicamking-Photo One... (show quote)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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May 17, 2012 00:20:17   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Is gas lumpy? O I think I just wreaked my shorts.

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May 17, 2012 01:34:13   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Horseart wrote:
Hal81 wrote:
digicamking-Photo One- And all the other - old time photographers on this site. I think we are a dieing breed. I worked for two studiuos before I went in busness for myself. I retired in 93. When I hear about this new breed of wedding photographers That say take 2000 photos at a wedding I wonder if the bride has any time to enjoy her own wedding. I never took more than 120 photos at any wedding I ever shot. I know times have changed but WOW.


What Hal said!

PLUS, another pet peeve...the way parents teach their children to smile those HUGE fake smiles!
quote=Hal81 digicamking-Photo One- And all the ot... (show quote)


Uhh, I think the Rominee taught them those smiles.

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May 17, 2012 09:12:52   #
Wheezie
 
do you have smiles or did you leave them home???

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May 17, 2012 09:25:08   #
ace-mt Loc: Montana
 
Hal81 wrote:
Is gas lumpy? O I think I just wreaked my shorts.


Oh you're bad :twisted:

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