MT Shooter wrote:
DX lenses have "good" quality glass, yes. While it generally does not compare to FX lens elements as it is sized for DX. This is why you don't see Nikons Premium series lenses in DX format (12-24mm F2.8, 24-70mm F2.8, 70-200mm F2.8, nor any of the long primes ie. 300mm F2.8 through 600mm F4).
The 17-55 2.8 is DX format and is an exceptional "premium" lens, (and expensive) but it came out back when Nikon didn't offer a full-frame sensor.
GoofyNewfie wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
DX lenses have "good" quality glass, yes. While it generally does not compare to FX lens elements as it is sized for DX. This is why you don't see Nikons Premium series lenses in DX format (12-24mm F2.8, 24-70mm F2.8, 70-200mm F2.8, nor any of the long primes ie. 300mm F2.8 through 600mm F4).
The 17-55 2.8 is DX format and is an exceptional "premium" lens, (and expensive) but it came out back when Nikon didn't offer a full-frame sensor.
Yes, its definitely a "one-off", even for Nikon. There is an exception for almost every rule. I remember D2X users screaming for joy when that lens was introduced. At least until the sticker shock set in! LOL
And unless I am mistaken, Nikon still produces it, don't they?
MT Shooter wrote:
Yes, its definitely a "one-off", even for Nikon. There is an exception for almost every rule. I remember D2X users screaming for joy when that lens was introduced. At least until the sticker shock set in! LOL
And unless I am mistaken, Nikon still produces it, don't they?
Yep- "Only" $1450, IF you can find one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/300490-USA/Nikon_2147_17_55mm_f_2_8G_ED_IF_AF_S.htmlFor DX, it's my walking around lens.
Constant aperture 2.8 and so sharp, I have to keep bandaids handy. No VR doesn't bother me much.
MT Shooter wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
DX lenses have "good" quality glass, yes. While it generally does not compare to FX lens elements as it is sized for DX. This is why you don't see Nikons Premium series lenses in DX format (12-24mm F2.8, 24-70mm F2.8, 70-200mm F2.8, nor any of the long primes ie. 300mm F2.8 through 600mm F4).
The 17-55 2.8 is DX format and is an exceptional "premium" lens, (and expensive) but it came out back when Nikon didn't offer a full-frame sensor.
Yes, its definitely a "one-off", even for Nikon. There is an exception for almost every rule. I remember D2X users screaming for joy when that lens was introduced. At least until the sticker shock set in! LOL
And unless I am mistaken, Nikon still produces it, don't they?
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Only one left at Amazon. I hope no one beats me to it! At $1,600, it's a bargain - isn't it?
http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-17-55mm-2-8G-ED-IF-Nikkor/dp/B000144I2Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337036694&sr=8-1I'm signing off for the day. Got to get some pizza and Guinness and watch some TV.
GoofyNewfie wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Yes, its definitely a "one-off", even for Nikon. There is an exception for almost every rule. I remember D2X users screaming for joy when that lens was introduced. At least until the sticker shock set in! LOL
And unless I am mistaken, Nikon still produces it, don't they?
Yep- "Only" $1450, IF you can find one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/300490-USA/Nikon_2147_17_55mm_f_2_8G_ED_IF_AF_S.htmlFor DX, it's my walking around lens.
Constant aperture 2.8 and so sharp, I have to keep bandaids handy. No VR doesn't bother me much.
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Yes, but you don't use it on the D700 do you? Almost pointless to crop the image just for that one lens. I am betting you have a 24-70 F2.8 for that body.
You win the bet! 24-70 is the way to go for FX.
MT Shooter wrote:
35mm is a DX lens and I refuse to buy DX lenses. 50mm F1.8 is a good option if you don't have the change for a F1.4 version. I sold my MF 50mm F1.4 with my F2 and have never bought an AF version myself, have never had a need or desire for it. I liked it in the old MF film days because zooms back then were so crappy, today the are light years better than back then. I have the 50mm covered in 3 other zoom lenses.
But damn that lens was sharp!
MT Shooter wrote:
I highly recommend "Nikon D7000, From Snapshots to Great Shots" by John Batdorff, a pro who actually uses the D7000 in the field. Amazon has it at a good price.
Just bought the Kindle edition for $9.00. :thumbup:
All of these were shot with the D7000 and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G DX.
8695_pp.jpg was cropped down for a more soothing effect, but you can still see the sharpness and level of detail this combination can achieve.
Nikon D7000 by David Busch, Compact Field Guide for the Nikon D7000 by David Busch, Mastering the Nikon D7000 by Darrell Young (Rockynook Nikonians Press), Nikon D7000 The Expanded Guide by Jon Sparks, Nikon D7000 From Snapshots to Great Shots by John Batdorff and Nikon D7000 Digital Field Guide by J. Dennis Thomas. I got them all from Amazon!
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gfinlayson wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
DX lenses are made with smaller diameter glass to conform to the DX size sensor. They are cheaper made with a much more common use of plastic due to the lens elements being smaller and lighter. When used on a full frame sensor, they image is automatically cropped to accomodate the smaller diameter of the DX lens. This effectively cripples the Full Frame camera even though Nikon does allow their use on the Pro bodies. I buy only full frame lenses which work EXTREMELY well on DX bodies, also giving the DX body the advantage of utilizing the premium center area of the lens and not using the outer portion where lens falloff is most prominent, not to mention distortion. If you never plan to upgrade to a full frame sensored body, then DX lenses are a better deal as they are always cheaper.
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I generally buy full-frame glass too, but wide angle is where you're really stuck with DX. No one makes an 11-16 f/2.8 in FX that could replace my Tokina!
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Yes, but its still a 16-24mm equivalent in full frame, Nikons 16-35mm F2.8 would be the similar FX lens. Nikons 10-24mm AF-S DX lens offers more than twice the range, wider aperture, and will work on Nikons introductory bodies where the Tokina will not AF on them. You always give up something with DX it seems, no matter how hard you look. (and it seems you are forgetting Nikons 14-24mm F2.8, an FX lens.)
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I had the Nikon 10-24. Slow maximum aperture (f/3.5 - 4.5) and very plasticky build. The Tokina is a far better lens - f/2.8 constant aperture, fully internally focusing, and easily corrected distortion. It's also built like a tank. Nikon really let's DX users down by lacking a fast wide angle. The 14-24 is nowhere near wide enough on DX when you want to go wide.
I understand the focus motor issue for some users, but for a D7000, the Tokina is the best ultra-wide there is.
Incidentally, I also owned the 14-24 when I had a D700 (I went back to DX for extra reach with telephotos for wildlife). Optically, it's a stellar performer, but it's a PITA with filters for landscape use. Only Lee makes a decent filter kit for it, and there are continual supply problems.
I don't really understand why Nikon has so few premium DX lenses considering that before the advent of the D3 and D700, all of it's pro bodies were DX. The D300/s is a pro body too, and that's also DX.
Stef C
Loc: Conshohocken (near philly) PA
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MT Shooter wrote:
Yes, its definitely a "one-off", even for Nikon. There is an exception for almost every rule. I remember D2X users screaming for joy when that lens was introduced. At least until the sticker shock set in! LOL
And unless I am mistaken, Nikon still produces it, don't they?
MT - would you agree that the 35mm f/1.8 is the sharpest DX Lens offered? I've heard of full frame users using it because even with a little vignetting it is very sharp...?
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GoofyNewfie wrote:
MT Shooter wrote:
Yes, its definitely a "one-off", even for Nikon. There is an exception for almost every rule. I remember D2X users screaming for joy when that lens was introduced. At least until the sticker shock set in! LOL
And unless I am mistaken, Nikon still produces it, don't they?
MT - would you agree that the 35mm f/1.8 is the sharpest DX Lens offered? I've heard of full frame users using it because even with a little vignetting it is very sharp...?
Its certainly the fastest, but having never used it I have no idea as to its sharpness other than what I read in reviews. Speed and sharpness are not always synonymous.
LU10IT
Loc: Daytona Beach, Florida
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