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Jul 22, 2016 14:38:35   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
Billyspad wrote:
Macronaut I will answer you, as you and I have I believe had sensible conversations in the past. Number 1 trolls very often disguise themselves note I do not and stand by every word I have said.
I assume when someone posts a picture they are looking to hear the views of others on their work would you agree?
I know there are those who feel if you have nothing good to say the keep quiet. If one follows that policy then surely standards would never improve. Standards here seem pretty low anyway with some so can you imagine where they would be without some gentle criticism?
I believed and still do this section should be a celebration of the naked human form tastefully presented as an art form. Unfortunately its a fact of life if you display the female form unclothed you will often attract some of the wrong audience who providing they can ogle a woman's breasts and get a glance at a pubis will be content. There is nothing one can do about them bit it does not help matters to encourage them with women in demeaning poses copied from cheap porn mags. Some women whilst quite beautiful in their own way have not been blessed by their Creator with a body that looks good minus clothing.
That does not worry some of the snappers here who are quite willing to cheapen women and display them as sex objects whilst bleating that they are capturing the inner self of the model! Tell me my friend do you really buy into that excuse or do you agree with me the models look quite silly and appears as an excuse for the guy with the camera to get his rocks off?
Have you thought why so few women, considering the high number there are on the Hog, do not appear to visit or leave a comment? Its becuase this section continues to cheapen women.
Please find me a comment I have made on this forum that is not true and come back to here or via PM
Also please note you attempted to insult me in a number of ways and I in return treated you with respect and tried to answer your points in a logical manner.
Macronaut I will answer you, as you and I have I b... (show quote)


Please go away. Seriously. Just go away.

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Jul 22, 2016 19:49:06   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
ptcanon3ti wrote:
Please go away. Seriously. Just go away.


My dear boy I have had word with Admin here and may need to amend one or two items so if you could point out what you find offensive or indeed troubles you I will try to attend to it. I'm sure a gentleman of your intellect would not wish to stifle someone purely because their opinion is different to yours?
Differing opinions expressed correctly are surely the lifeblood of a forum where people wish to learn and hone certain skills.

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Aug 3, 2016 18:38:19   #
Allen Essek
 
Billyspad wrote:
I always find honesty is the best policy young man You should try it Im sure you will soon realise the benefits.


Billyspad, You're actting like an unmitigated, open class, A$$HOLE! You are never witty, or funny, whatsoever, but only pathetic, lame, and corny; you are a corny troublemaker! Be plainly advised, that you are never witty or funny, never, ever!

IF YOU ONLY REALIZED, THE WAY THAT YOUR TROUBLESOME REMARKS AND COMMENTS ACTUALLY COME ACROSS YOU WOULD DISAPPEAR, IN SHAME!

You are grossly immature in the things which you talk about, and "where you come from," and all of your pathetic, and corny arguments that you endlessly make. You are only in this group to make troubles and difficulties for other members. You do not belong here! You are here bullying and endlessly ongoing arguing with other members simply to give them a hard time, through your continual baiting and criticizem of them for having personal beliefs that are different than your own.

You act like a "little tin god" who attempts to weild powera nd authority over other members and to make everyone else, all submit to your own beliefs and personal ideologies as to what is proper and right and wrong; all of your ways of doing things, and if other members do not capitulate to your way of operation and morals, then you will cause continual disturbances, on-line in the forum, through all of your ongoing, and repetitive, hostile, veiled remarks, and corrections, that you endlessly inflict on all of the other members, who do not see or agree with things in the way, that you, insist, that they must!

You, set yourself up, in this forum, to be the Arbitrator, and the Judge, of all matters, and then, even the Jury, and finally the Penal System, as you continually disrupt, the entire forum, through your endless, and harassing posts of your insensible remarks, and complaints, and whining, that you post repeatedly in this forum when other members do not agree with you, or else you do not agree with the way that other members are conducting themselves, according to your own personal rulebook! You are simply a troublemaker, who endlessly creates needless disturbances in an otherwise peaceful forum! You are a chronic, pain in the ass, and you need, to be banned, from this forum, by everyone else, all joining together in mass, and them all, approaching and contacting, the Administrator, and explaining to him, exactly the kinds of things, which you do, ongoing and in detail, with some supporting textual examples, and at that point, you will finally be banned from this forum, forever, and the members here, will have the peace which they are all entitled to have! You do not, have the ultimate power. You have simply been running amuck, for awhile, because enough people, have not joined together, against you, to get rid of you!
I think that your days are numbered, due to your anti-social behavior. This is my own personal opinion based upon what I have very carefully observed in this forum.

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Aug 3, 2016 19:43:16   #
Allen Essek
 
EDITED:

Billyspad wrote:
I always find honesty is the best policy young man You should try it Im sure you will soon realise the benefits.


Billyspad, You're acting like an unmitigated, open class, A$$HOLE! You are never witty, or funny, whatsoever, but only pathetic, lame, and corny; you are a corny troublemaker! Be plainly advised, that you are never witty, or funny, never ever!

IF YOU ONLY REALIZED, THE WAY THAT YOUR TROUBLESOME REMARKS AND COMMENTS ACTUALLY COME ACROSS YOU WOULD DISAPPEAR, IN SHAME!

You are grossly immature, in the things which you talk about, and "where you come from," and all of your pathetic, and corny arguments, that you endlessly make. You are only in this group to make troubles, and difficulties, for other members. You do not belong here! You are here bullying and endlessly, ongoing arguing, with other members simply to give them a hard time, through your continual baiting, and criticizim of them, for having personal beliefs that are different than your own.

You act like a "little tin god" who attempts to wield power and authority over other members, and to make everyone else, all submit to your own beliefs and personal ideologies, as to what is proper, and right and wrong. All of your ways of doing things are manipulative, and if other members do not capitulate, to your way of operation, in accord with your morals, then you will, cause continual disturbances, on-line, in the forum, through all of your ongoing, and repetitive, hostile, veiled remarks, and bogus corrections, that you endlessly inflict, on all of the other members, who do not see, or agree, with anything, in the way that you insist that they must be.

You set yourself up, in this forum, to be the Arbitrator, Judge, Jury, and finally even the Penal System, as you continually disrupt, the entire forum, through your endless, and harassing posts, of your insensible remarks, and complaints, and whining, that you post repeatedly, in this forum, when other members, do not agree with you, or else, you do not agree with the way, that other members, are conducting themselves, according to your own, personal rulebook!

You are simply a troublemaker, who endlessly creates needless disturbances, in an otherwise peaceful forum!
You are a chronic, pain in the ass, and you need, to be banned, from this forum, by everyone else, all joining together in mass, and them all, approaching, and contacting, the Administrator, and explaining to him, exactly the kinds of things, which you do, ongoing, and in detail, with some supporting textual examples, and at that point, you will, finally, be banned from this forum, forever, and the members here, will have the peace, which they are all, entitled to have!

You do not, have the ultimate power! You have simply been running amuck, for awhile, because enough people, have not joined together, against you, to get rid of you!

I think that your days are numbered, due to your out of control anti-social behavior. This is my own, personal opinion, based upon what I have very carefully observed, in this forum.

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Aug 3, 2016 19:45:32   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
Allen Essek wrote:
Billyspad, You're actting like an unmitigated, open class, A$$HOLE! You are never witty, or funny, whatsoever, but only pathetic, lame, and corny; you are a corny troublemaker! Be plainly advised, that you are never witty or funny, never, ever!

IF YOU ONLY REALIZED, THE WAY THAT YOUR TROUBLESOME REMARKS AND COMMENTS ACTUALLY COME ACROSS YOU WOULD DISAPPEAR, IN SHAME!

You are grossly immature in the things which you talk about, and "where you come from," and all of your pathetic, and corny arguments that you endlessly make. You are only in this group to make troubles and difficulties for other members. You do not belong here! You are here bullying and endlessly ongoing arguing with other members simply to give them a hard time, through your continual baiting and criticizem of them for having personal beliefs that are different than your own.

You act like a "little tin god" who attempts to weild powera nd authority over other members and to make everyone else, all submit to your own beliefs and personal ideologies as to what is proper and right and wrong; all of your ways of doing things, and if other members do not capitulate to your way of operation and morals, then you will cause continual disturbances, on-line in the forum, through all of your ongoing, and repetitive, hostile, veiled remarks, and corrections, that you endlessly inflict on all of the other members, who do not see or agree with things in the way, that you, insist, that they must!

You, set yourself up, in this forum, to be the Arbitrator, and the Judge, of all matters, and then, even the Jury, and finally the Penal System, as you continually disrupt, the entire forum, through your endless, and harassing posts of your insensible remarks, and complaints, and whining, that you post repeatedly in this forum when other members do not agree with you, or else you do not agree with the way that other members are conducting themselves, according to your own personal rulebook! You are simply a troublemaker, who endlessly creates needless disturbances in an otherwise peaceful forum! You are a chronic, pain in the ass, and you need, to be banned, from this forum, by everyone else, all joining together in mass, and them all, approaching and contacting, the Administrator, and explaining to him, exactly the kinds of things, which you do, ongoing and in detail, with some supporting textual examples, and at that point, you will finally be banned from this forum, forever, and the members here, will have the peace which they are all entitled to have! You do not, have the ultimate power. You have simply been running amuck, for awhile, because enough people, have not joined together, against you, to get rid of you!
I think that your days are numbered, due to your anti-social behavior. This is my own personal opinion based upon what I have very carefully observed in this forum.
Billyspad, You're actting like an unmitigated, ope... (show quote)


Oh my dear boy before bothering to answer you may I point out one thing of importance? The OP posted a picture for opinions and comment but you feel its acceptable just to use his thread to spew vitriol towards me. Tsk tsk just plain bad manners young man.
A very pleasant chap in Admin contacted me a few weeks back to say my views were ruffling feathers and could I possibly moderate my ways of putting my point across. This I have been very careful to do and the Boss guy here seems quite happy. I think he realizes any forum will attract differing personalities with differing views but it makes for a healthy lively arena to openly discuss these differences. Im sure he has checked in from time to time to make sure all comments made are within reason.
So my suggestion to you is to go back a few weeks and you will find ya ol' pal Billy has been a very well behaved typically suave and debonair Englishman who has contributed to the forum with well considered and thought through commenting
Which is not something one could say about the pile of bile you through at me which just serves to make this thread an unpleasant place to visit.
You strike me as a rather unhappy individual young Allen is there something you would maybe wish to talk over or indeed do you feel there is someone here that can help you with whatever problem is troubling you?

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Aug 4, 2016 17:05:32   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Ive been reading everyones comments. I see nothing pornographic, or fetishist about this image. Yes, people see different things in any picture, but, whether good, bad or indifferent it is in the eye of the beholder. I like seeing the nude figure...No matter how it is shown. I will agree that some poses are better than others, but all should be taken at face value. As far as a critique, I would crit on lighting, background, how the light molds around the model, etc., and not the content. That being said, I for one would love to see some more of this shoot.
Getting back to the image, the lighting is really good. the pose is also good.
Rich...

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