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Jul 19, 2016 14:46:47   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
How can I enlarge a closely cropped image so that it can be printed in standard print sizes. I have one photo, attached, that I would like to have printed as is, but when I send to the printers (Costco) and ask for an 8x10 they crop it severely. I use PSE 10 and tried to resize it, but can't seem to get that to work. I've resized the canvas and I get a larger print, but with a border. Is there a way to just 'expand' the image to a standard print size? BTW, my camera setting is 4x3, so I would expect the image produced would meet standard print sizes without cropping. Probably don't understand that part so your help would be appreciated on both concerns.

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Jul 19, 2016 14:52:23   #
dannac Loc: 60 miles SW of New Orleans
 
Have a look at this thread in post processing section.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-399221-1.html

If you include the image, you will get some help too.

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Jul 19, 2016 14:59:32   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Moose wrote:
How can I enlarge a closely cropped image so that it can be printed in standard print sizes. I have one photo, attached, that I would like to have printed as is, but when I send to the printers (Costco) and ask for an 8x10 they crop it severely. I use PSE 10 and tried to resize it, but can't seem to get that to work. I've resized the canvas and I get a larger print, but with a border. Is there a way to just 'expand' the image to a standard print size? BTW, my camera setting is 4x3, so I would expect the image produced would meet standard print sizes without cropping. Probably don't understand that part so your help would be appreciated on both concerns.
How can I enlarge a closely cropped image so that ... (show quote)


An 8x10 print has a ratio of 4x5, so, to print from a photo with a 4x3 ratio requires cropping. No way around it that I can think of. Either that or you end up with a border, as you have noticed. Cropping to a 4x5 ratio with PSE 10 is simple. If you select "Quick" and look at the left toolbar you will find the crop tool. Looks kind of like a box. Click on it and at the bottom left the will be a box with cropping options. Select 8x10 from the drop down menu. Place your pointer at the lower left or upper right of the area you wish to crop and go to it! Be sure to use "Save As" when saving the photo or it will overwrite your original. Save at max resolution, which would be 12.

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Jul 19, 2016 15:20:03   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
Sorry, I forgot to include the image. Here it is.


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Jul 19, 2016 15:24:32   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
Dannac, thanks for the PP link. I found what I was looking for. Its great having guys like you on this forum.

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Jul 19, 2016 15:31:29   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't think it's possible!

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Jul 19, 2016 15:43:42   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
LFingar wrote:
An 8x10 print has a ratio of 4x5, so, to print from a photo with a 4x3 ratio requires cropping. No way around it that I can think of. .
I knew that ratio would come into play somehow. I haven't got that worked out in my mind. Thanks for your input and will check out the crop tool process you've indicated. Thanks again for your help.

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Jul 19, 2016 15:48:09   #
BebuLamar
 
May be some smart software to clone some of the burlap at the bottom to give the image more height.

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Jul 19, 2016 15:57:10   #
Moose Loc: North Carolina
 
Thanks Bebu.. I think the solution to fix the current problem is to do as Thomas H. suggested, and then for future photos set the ration in the camera to use a 4x5 ration, assuming I can do that.

BebuLamar wrote:
May be some smart software to clone some of the burlap at the bottom to give the image more height.

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Jul 19, 2016 20:05:02   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
Here is the result of distorting the full image into a 4:5 ratio picture.


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Jul 19, 2016 20:27:04   #
BebuLamar
 
I got this funny one. It doesn't have the distortion but is not right!



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Jul 19, 2016 21:50:57   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
Here is your image cropped at 4x5 ratio. At that ratio the photo would be the same height as the original but not as wide.


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Jul 20, 2016 05:46:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Moose wrote:
How can I enlarge a closely cropped image so that it can be printed in standard print sizes. I have one photo, attached, that I would like to have printed as is, but when I send to the printers (Costco) and ask for an 8x10 they crop it severely. I use PSE 10 and tried to resize it, but can't seem to get that to work. I've resized the canvas and I get a larger print, but with a border. Is there a way to just 'expand' the image to a standard print size? BTW, my camera setting is 4x3, so I would expect the image produced would meet standard print sizes without cropping. Probably don't understand that part so your help would be appreciated on both concerns.
How can I enlarge a closely cropped image so that ... (show quote)


The border is unavoidable if you don't want distortion. And 4x3 is not a standard print size, but many labs will print that aspect - it would by 6x8 or 9x12.

Here is a list of what Bay Photo and Adorama can print:

http://www.bayphoto.com/prints/photographic-prints/
http://www.adoramapix.com/PriceList.aspx#proglossy

I suspect WhiteHouseCustomColor (WHCC) and MPix and most other labs can do the same.

So your options are to print a smaller image on the paper with borders, then trim the borders if you want no borders, or use a better lab with more paper size options.

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Jul 20, 2016 10:41:18   #
BudsOwl Loc: Upstate NY and New England
 
Because your camera takes pictures in a 4X3 ratio, your best bet in the future is to not make such tightly cropped images. Leave enough room so that you can crop to one of the three most common sizes -- 4x6, 5x7, or 8x10 -- and not lose the important stuff.
Bud

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Jul 20, 2016 11:01:04   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Moose wrote:
Thanks Bebu.. I think the solution to fix the current problem is to do as Thomas H. suggested, and then for future photos set the ration in the camera to use a 4x5 ration, assuming I can do that.


Some cameras can and some can't do different ratios. In any case, always shoot and leave enough room to crop your image to the correct ratio. 4x3 is rarely the correct ratio. It seems that 4x5 is used more than anything.

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