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Jul 17, 2016 15:17:21   #
AnthonyBiss Loc: Toronto, Ontario
 
Sorry, I was unable to respond to one member that posted a topic on Windows 10. In response, I was heading over to Lisbon in May with my Toshiba loaded with all of my editing software and images to be edited while there as well as editing my daily shooting around the city. In summery, WIN 10 crashed one day and I was unable to restore it, neither could Microsoft tech personnel when I cam back. Two days in trying tor perform a restore. Eventually I had to re image my machine. Have to reload all of my utilities and apps. A very tedious process since I have to find all the keys for all apps.I upgraded from WIN 7 Home Edition. Lesson learnt, There are bugs in Win 10. Stick to Win 7 as long as you can. For those on WIN 10, CREATE A RESTORE DISC, AND PRAY IT WORKS....

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Jul 17, 2016 15:24:08   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Is this what you want to respond to?

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Jul 17, 2016 15:54:38   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
AnthonyBiss wrote:
Sorry, I was unable to respond to one member that posted a topic on Windows 10. In response, I was heading over to Lisbon in May with my Toshiba loaded with all of my editing software and images to be edited while there as well as editing my daily shooting around the city. In summery, WIN 10 crashed one day and I was unable to restore it, neither could Microsoft tech personnel when I cam back. Two days in trying tor perform a restore. Eventually I had to re image my machine. Have to reload all of my utilities and apps. A very tedious process since I have to find all the keys for all apps.I upgraded from WIN 7 Home Edition. Lesson learnt, There are bugs in Win 10. Stick to Win 7 as long as you can. For those on WIN 10, CREATE A RESTORE DISC, AND PRAY IT WORKS....
Sorry, I was unable to respond to one member that ... (show quote)


There is no way to ascertain the cause of the OP's crash. It could have been hardware failure, auxiliary software, operator error, power surge, some problem with his "virus" protection, a driver error, or any of several other things.

All I know is that I have six computers that have been running Windows 10 for most of a year without a burp. My two daughters also run it on their computers as do three close friends. No one has had a single problem that was not due to users failing to follow the software program instructions.

There are bugs in all software, but fewer of them in Windows 10 than in almost any other software that has ever been written. The automatic updating means that any bugs or threats are eliminated as quickly as they arise. (Most of the updates are caused by malware issues that Microsoft has fixed before they were exploited.)

There has never been an OS as stable as Windows 10, with the possible exceptions of some distributions of Linux.

However, the last line of the post is correct. Every piece of software can and does contain hidden problems, most of which will never come up. But do make a restore disk and do regular backup.

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Jul 17, 2016 19:08:31   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
There is no way to ascertain the cause of the OP's crash. It could have been hardware failure, auxiliary software, operator error, power surge, some problem with his "virus" protection, a driver error, or any of several other things.

All I know is that I have six computers that have been running Windows 10 for most of a year without a burp. My two daughters also run it on their computers as do three close friends. No one has had a single problem that was not due to users failing to follow the software program instructions.

There are bugs in all software, but fewer of them in Windows 10 than in almost any other software that has ever been written. The automatic updating means that any bugs or threats are eliminated as quickly as they arise. (Most of the updates are caused by malware issues that Microsoft has fixed before they were exploited.)

There has never been an OS as stable as Windows 10, with the possible exceptions of some distributions of Linux.

However, the last line of the post is correct. Every piece of software can and does contain hidden problems, most of which will never come up. But do make a restore disk and do regular backup.
There is no way to ascertain the cause of the OP's... (show quote)


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Jul 17, 2016 19:48:56   #
AnthonyBiss Loc: Toronto, Ontario
 
Sorry brother, the best OS that was ans is stable is Windows 7. and before that XP. Windows UI is badly designed, and the kernel needs work.
I am a software specialist with 45 years experience.

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Jul 17, 2016 20:02:35   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
AnthonyBiss wrote:
Sorry brother, the best OS that was ans is stable is Windows 7. and before that XP. Windows UI is badly designed, and the kernel needs work.
I am a software specialist with 45 years experience.


With respect, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but The Hog is populated with long-term computer professionals that have a different opinion (45+ years experience for me as well). While Windows 7 was certainly a good OS, I would not place XP in the same league in terms of stability (seen way too many blue screens of death).

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Jul 17, 2016 20:08:29   #
AnthonyBiss Loc: Toronto, Ontario
 
I have 6 PCs operating window 7 pro and I am a happy guy. Win 10 in the next few years.

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Jul 17, 2016 20:40:36   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
AnthonyBiss wrote:
I have 6 PCs operating window 7 pro and I am a happy guy. Win 10 in the next few years.


Hey, I'm with you there - I liked 7 a lot as well, and probably wouldn't have moved 3 machines to 10 now (which was painless) except I didn't want to pay for the inevitable upgrade later. I actually have 3 XP machines that are dedicated to specific functions (satellite antenna control and data decoding and audio testing) that I can't easily replicate onto a more modern platform that don't have processor or memory capability to upgrade, or they'd be on 7 or 10 as well.

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Jul 17, 2016 22:22:45   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
I had a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro that was only 2 years old. I gave in to the constant nagging from MS because the computer was constantly freezing. After about a month with Win10 the miserable machine died completely. Couldn't boot it up. So now $2600 later I have a new Win10 machine and it's working just fine. I don't know if it's the computer or the OS.I believe the Lenovo was overheating. It was a top of the line machine but it was just not handling day to day light surfing and photo processing work. Nothing too taxing. Who knows?

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Jul 17, 2016 23:01:05   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
10MPlayer wrote:
I had a Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro that was only 2 years old. I gave in to the constant nagging from MS because the computer was constantly freezing. After about a month with Win10 the miserable machine died completely. Couldn't boot it up. So now $2600 later I have a new Win10 machine and it's working just fine. I don't know if it's the computer or the OS.I believe the Lenovo was overheating. It was a top of the line machine but it was just not handling day to day light surfing and photo processing work. Nothing too taxing. Who knows?
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For what it is worth I have had some significant and expensive problems with Lenovo. That can happen with any company, but their support and attitude was among the worst I have experienced.

Windows 10 I consider to be good, and like others here I have tested it very thoroughly and upgraded several machines up to ten years old. Better than Windows 7 without a doubt in my personal opinion.

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Jul 17, 2016 23:44:05   #
AnthonyBiss Loc: Toronto, Ontario
 
Having worked for IBM the Lenovo is the standard laptop all support persons were given. Never a problem even with the OS, however with Microsoft updates that's where the issue starts. Bad code that freezes the desktop. Those updates were never QAed?.

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Jul 18, 2016 00:44:49   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
AnthonyBiss wrote:
Having worked for IBM the Lenovo is the standard laptop all support persons were given. Never a problem even with the OS, however with Microsoft updates that's where the issue starts. Bad code that freezes the desktop. Those updates were never QAed?.


Yes, and Lenovo is no longer IBM, and the quality and business practices have changed. IBM x86 server customers were very unhappy with product and support prior to the sale of the System x division to Lenovo. There is published research to support that assertion. Seriously, many of us here have stress tested Windows 10 on many systems and have reasons to support our position. Nothing is problem free, but Windows 10 is very solid and better than any MS OS I have ever tested. Lenovo, not so much. I certainly wouldn't buy another of their products, it was the lack of support and the business attitude that fell far short of acceptable quality.

Remember, IBM is not the same company it once was, they hardly have any machines anymore, the future is Cognitive Computing, and even there Watson has limitations. It isn't Sherlock when it comes to deep learning!

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Jul 18, 2016 02:02:56   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Best safeguard: "do regular backup."
Reinaldokool wrote:
There is no way to ascertain the cause of the OP's crash. It could have been hardware failure, auxiliary software, operator error, power surge, some problem with his "virus" protection, a driver error, or any of several other things.

All I know is that I have six computers that have been running Windows 10 for most of a year without a burp. My two daughters also run it on their computers as do three close friends. No one has had a single problem that was not due to users failing to follow the software program instructions.

There are bugs in all software, but fewer of them in Windows 10 than in almost any other software that has ever been written. The automatic updating means that any bugs or threats are eliminated as quickly as they arise. (Most of the updates are caused by malware issues that Microsoft has fixed before they were exploited.)

There has never been an OS as stable as Windows 10, with the possible exceptions of some distributions of Linux.

However, the last line of the post is correct. Every piece of software can and does contain hidden problems, most of which will never come up. But do make a restore disk and do regular backup.
There is no way to ascertain the cause of the OP's... (show quote)

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Jul 18, 2016 06:19:09   #
kschwegl Loc: Orangeburg, NY
 
anotherview wrote:
Best safeguard: "do regular backup."

You are right on the money. I use Acronis True Image, and do a weekly backup/verify. If the system goes belly up, load the Acronis boot disk, select the backup device, click restore, and relax while EVERYTHING is restored.

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Jul 18, 2016 07:59:50   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Yup!! That's my security blanket as well. I also backup all drives to the Cloud. Acronis tech support is top of the line!!
Mark

kschwegl wrote:
You are right on the money. I use Acronis True Image, and do a weekly backup/verify. If the system goes belly up, load the Acronis boot disk, select the backup device, click restore, and relax while EVERYTHING is restored.

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