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Jul 8, 2016 05:49:08   #
viscountdriver Loc: East Kent UK
 
The news from Dallas is terrible.
In the UK police do not carry guns.There is a special armed unit but even there, should a police shoot he is suspended until an inquiry determines whether it was necessary.The ordinary copper might carry a tasar or a pepper spray but often they carry nothing more than a stick.
I am not saying this is superior to the US police , I don't know but it is extremely rare for a copper to get shot.
There is a long waiting list to get into the police and most are turned down.It is heading towards needing a degree to get in.
In the end any police force can only operate with the consent of the public it serves.
Our sympathies to the folk in Dallas.

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Jul 8, 2016 06:26:22   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
....How very British of you....thank you...I think ?

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Jul 8, 2016 06:44:07   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
It has now come to pass, here in the US, that the easiest way to get k**led is to dial 911 or call a cop. I won't do either. I dial 191145.

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Jul 8, 2016 06:47:37   #
Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana
 
Carl D wrote:
It has now come to pass, here in the US, that the easiest way to get k**led is to dial 911 or call a cop. I won't do either. I dial 191145.


Good choice

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Jul 8, 2016 06:53:56   #
ejrmaine Loc: South Carolina
 
To think cops with guns is the problem is very naive.

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Jul 8, 2016 06:58:01   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
ejrmaine wrote:
To think cops with guns is the problem is very naive.

What I think is poor training and low IQ's are what lead to needless use of deadly force!

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Jul 8, 2016 07:02:16   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
Once again, everyone rushes to judgement without all the facts! America is not the same as England mostly because there are so many gun owners. You cannot ask police officers to enforce the law while unarmed! There are severe consequences for using excessive force and I'm sure the many investigations that have already started will get to the t***h.

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Jul 8, 2016 07:14:54   #
kodiac1062 Loc: Sarasota, Fl
 
Once again it is the media that does the injustice. The media automatically jumps to the conclusion the officer is wrong and it is a bad shoot. The media does not bother to get ALL the facts BEFORE reporting the incident. It is very chic to make it look like the cops are eager to shoot and only because the victim is black.

Have you ever noticed in EVERY shooting the only thing the victim had to do was listen to the verbal commands the officer was giving? But the mentality today is I don't have to listen to the police.

Let's see ALL the video from everyone and from every surveillance camera. Start from beginning to end, get all the facts, then make an informed decision.

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Jul 8, 2016 08:02:50   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
viscountdriver wrote:
The news from Dallas is terrible.
In the UK police do not carry guns.There is a special armed unit but even there...


Yes, I notice on English TV shows how a special armed unit might be called in at times. As they enter the premises, they shout "Armed police."

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Jul 8, 2016 08:04:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
kodiac1062 wrote:
The media does not bother to get ALL the facts BEFORE reporting the incident.


That's true, but it wouldn't be "news" if it was reported a week later. I think everyone realizes that more facts come out as time goes on.

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Jul 8, 2016 08:06:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Carl D wrote:
It has now come to pass, here in the US, that the easiest way to get k**led is to dial 911 or call a cop. I won't do either. I dial 191145.


Interesting fact about dialing 911. If you dial it by mistake and tell the operator that, the police will still show up.

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Jul 8, 2016 08:08:50   #
kodiac1062 Loc: Sarasota, Fl
 
Yes they will show up due to liability if they didn't show and there was a problem. Protect and serve.

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Jul 8, 2016 09:16:29   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I don't believe that for a minute.

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Jul 8, 2016 11:47:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
kodiac1062 wrote:
Yes they will show up due to liability if they didn't show and there was a problem. Protect and serve.


Right. The bad guy could have been holding a gun to your head, telling you to tell 911 that you misdialed. I don't think it's as much liability as just doing their job.

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Jul 8, 2016 13:00:49   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Carl D wrote:
What I think is poor training and low IQ's are what lead to needless use of deadly force!


And exactly what do you know about police work? You are a typical low life pos. Low IQ? Really? Most cops are a lot more intelligent than you. Don't want to call 911 - Call Black L***s M****r and see how that works for you.

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