Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

It boils down to case law - how previous cases were dealt with:

"In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."

Read more:
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-fbi-didnt-charge-hillary-clinton-2016-7

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

They also see a rich, powerful politician who might be their boss next year and has a reputation of getting even.
Guess they didn't see any of those things with General David Petraeus's case, well maybe a little, he did get off light compared to if you or I got caught doing the same thing.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

Perhaps. But Comey is as solidly Republican as they come. He served as counsel on the 1996 Republican Senate Whitewater Committee, run by Sen. Al D’Amato, which relentlessly and fiercely excoriated the Clintons. President George W. Bush appointed him U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, then Bush promoted him to Deputy Attorney General, the second post in Justice. He ran the Department for Bush under John Ashcroft and Alberto Morales. He gave campaign contributions to McCain and Romney.

It will be pretty difficult for conservatives to accuse Comey of being too partisan in this decision. He said "no reasonable prosecutor" would indict her, and Comey has a track record of being a very reasonable prosecutor, and certainly not favoring Democrats.

SonnyE Loc: Communist California, USA

But it depends on what your definition of is, is....

And while I have your attention, is you, or is you not, "just a f*ggot"? (Your words, not mine.)
You still have not answered that question.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

I have given you ample opportunity to demonstrate that you can act like an adult and contribute something beyond childish insults and idiocy on my threads, but you keep proving otherwise. I don't know what horrible trauma may have happened to you as a child or what made you so unfit for normal human interactions, but you need therapy. If you are truly 66 years old like you claim, you are acting approximately 1/5 of your actual age. This is not acceptable behavior among mature adults. You are going on my ignore list now.

Bye bye now, thanks for playing, I hope you get the professional help that you need...

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Enough of that childish sh*t, can it. Either discuss/debate in a civil manner or go away.

I am sick and tired of this constant playground behavior from both groups.
I spent 34 years constantly after real teenagers to grow up and behave. I can do a bit more with some imitation teenagers.

The bunch of you, left and right who constantly tear this forum apart ruin it for the rest of us. You want some attention? Go down to the nearest biker bar, step inside and talk to them the way you write on this site. You will get all the attention you can handle. If you survive then maybe you will have a come to Jesus moment and grow up.

Zophman Loc: Northwest

Good idea, but don't hold your breath. The nature of our species is to be beastly and only personal ideals and discipline preclude some from not constantly being an asshole. And the anonymity of a forum like UHH allows a few individuals to drop their shields and revert to the basic wiring of homosapien DNA. K**l or be k**led so to speak. Humans can be evil and malicious but some level of morality keeps most in check. Look around and it's not hard to see how evil some folks really can be. We are just seeing the tip of the ice berg in the UHH.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

You keep referring to "both groups" but I'm not seeing the other group. You keep saying "left and right who constantly tear this forum apart". Who on the left is constantly hurling bigoted, childish, homosexual slurs? Can you point it out to me?

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

I'm sure that Comey didn't "see those things here". At the same time, I have a hard time believing that both the media wouldn't "see those things here" if there were some other person under investigation. Maybe the FBI or prosecutors as well. I have no belief that either the media or the government are even-handed in cases like this.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

Robert, now that you are done ranting again about "constant playground behavior of both sides" , can we get back to the topic? Do you have any response to what I said about Comey?

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

So, are there specific instances with contradictory evidence that contradict what Comey stated? Or is it a general feeling that it was probably r****d from the beginning?

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

The small group on the right uses those insults. The ones on the left constantly reply with elitist, we are more intelligent insults using different vocabulary and without so many cuss words, but sometimes they do cuss and name call. Just different words. A couple of them do the insult route all the time, just different insutls.

The members of both groups show little or no effort to understand each other and debate, just insults. And neither group seems to see themselves as part of the problem, it is all "them" that are the problem, not "us".

I am sure neither group is stupid enough to talk that way face to face, only on the net do they feel free/safe enough to act that way.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

I'm wondering if you are equating attacking someone's false or illogical arguments as "insults"? If so, we are going to have a huge disagreement here.

In a forum discussing subjects as controversial as politics, bitter disagreements and frequent use of logical fallacies, as well as calling out fallacies and bulls**t, can be expected and predicted. Most people have poor debating sk**ls, and many do not adhere to logical debate rules and constantly rely on fallacies. Lots of bulls**t and lots of calling out of bulls**t, right or wrong, comes with the territory.

It is one thing to attack arguments and positions because they are perceived to be flawed and ill-informed.

It is quite an entirely different thing to hurl childish ad hominem insults that do not even relate to the issue being discussed and have nothing to do with refuting or rebutting an argument, but are merely for trolling, provocative purposes, often by those who either never or rarely contribute anything of substance to the discussions.

One is a normal and expected occurrence when adults (who lack refined debating sk**ls) are vigorously debating controversial subjects.

The other is on a childish level that has no place in adult conversation and fits the definition of trolling.

If you refuse to acknowledge the difference between these two completely different levels of discourse, then you are part of the problem, and you merely attempt to make a false equivalency where there is none.

And finally, you seem to be attempting to claim that only the left side ever engages in elitist, "we are more intelligent" insults, when I see the right doing that constantly, or even more often than the left.

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

I didn't say anything to contradict what Comey stated. I said that the media would certainly treat another person quite differently than they are treating Hillary. I said maybe the FBI/prosecutors would do so as well.

Whether or not this investigation was r****d, it's more than obvious that Obama's administration is very one-sided in it's administration of the law. Eric Holder and the New Black Panthers in Philadelphia. Lois Lerner and tax exemption applications. John Koskinen and destruction of evidence regarding the same topic. Janet Napolitano and her labeling of armed forces veterans as "right wing extremists"

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

I thought the media, even the "liberal" NY Times, was pretty rough on Hillary with this issue. Condi Rice and Colin Powell had similarly used private email servers, and were discovered to have t***smitted classified emails, but they never received the same level of third degree as Clinton did by the media.

If the Obama admin is very one-sided (and I assume you include the Justice department in how they concluded the investigation of the email scandal), I wonder if you would agree that the GOP controlled congress was very one-sided with the whole B******i and email scandal thing, with 7 or 8 investigations, and an admission by Gowdy that the main purpose was to harm Hillary's political chances, and timed perfectly for the e******n year?