Is it really global heating? (Page 2): Many parts of the Artic Ocean that were once not navigable are now. I recently watched some NASA TV, something about their newest Earth...

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

Twardlow wrote:

I saw a piece where Alaskan Eskimos are in panic because their sea ice is melting out from under them.

One man moved his cabin a mile inland (still on the ice), and it's about to fall into the ocean already.

How much of reality can you deny?

Many parts of the Artic Ocean that were once not navigable are now.

I recently watched some NASA TV, something about their newest Earth monitoring satellites. They now have much better and more accurate measurement capability. Anyway, at some point in the presentation g****l w*****g was mentioned. They showed a graph of global temperature rise along with f****l f**l consumption. The lines coincided almost perfectly!

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Earworms wrote:

Many parts of the Artic Ocean that were once not navigable are now.

I recently watched some NASA TV, something about their newest Earth monitoring satellites. They now have much better and more accurate measurement capability. Anyway, at some point in the presentation g****l w*****g was mentioned. They showed a graph of global temperature rise along with f****l f**l consumption. The lines coincided almost perfectly!

This has been the Earths natural process for millions of years, we have had 4-5 ice ages and 4-5 warming stages....this one is no different.

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Twardlow wrote:

I saw a piece where Alaskan Eskimos are in panic because their sea ice is melting out from under them.

One man moved his cabin a mile inland (still on the ice), and it's about to fall into the ocean already.

How much of reality can you deny?

You saw a piece of what? Crap? As you always whine about: source?

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

Racmanaz wrote:

This has been the Earths natural process for millions of years, we have had 4-5 ice ages and 4-5 warming stages....this one is no different.

Yes, for millions of years nature has done its own thing. The graph that NASA presented was something like the last two hundred years or less. The lines on the graphs overlaid almost perfectly. The burning of huge amounts of f****l f**ls didn't occur until relatively recently, during our modern industrial age.
You cannot deny that man has the ability to alter our biosphere, usually for the worse. In fact man has the capability to destroy most of the habitable parts of our planet.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

Earworms wrote:

Yes, for millions of years nature has done its own thing. The graph that NASA presented was something like the last two hundred years or less. The lines on the graphs overlaid almost perfectly. The burning of huge amounts of f****l f**ls didn't occur until relatively recently, during our modern industrial age.
You cannot deny that man has the ability to alter our biosphere, usually for the worse. In fact man has the capability to destroy most of the habitable parts of our planet.

Agreed! Let's shut down all the f****l f**l plants down immediately! That will fix the problem!

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

Jakebrake wrote:

Agreed! Let's shut down all the f****l f**l plants down immediately! That will fix the problem!

Neither NASA nor I suggest something like that. I drive a car everyday, use electrical appliances everyday, consume goods and services everyday. I don't have the solution to the problem and neither does any scientist for that matter.

dljen Loc: Central PA

GeorgeH wrote:

Many UHH members practice ignoring reality on a daily basis. We all know who they are.

Yes, and politically speaking doesn't Trump think g****l w*****g is a Chinese conspiracy?

Talk about fools...

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Earworms wrote:

Yes, for millions of years nature has done its own thing. The graph that NASA presented was something like the last two hundred years or less. The lines on the graphs overlaid almost perfectly. The burning of huge amounts of f****l f**ls didn't occur until relatively recently, during our modern industrial age.
You cannot deny that man has the ability to alter our biosphere, usually for the worse. In fact man has the capability to destroy most of the habitable parts of our planet.

Like I said prior to this post, this Earth has had four to five ice ages in 4-5 warming stages and this one is no different has nothing to do with man or what he has done.

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

Racmanaz wrote:

Like I said prior to this post, this Earth has had four to five ice ages in 4-5 warming stages and this one is no different has nothing to do with man or what he has done.

Let's not talk about natural processes, let's talk about what man is doing to the Earth. I bet that if all the nuclear bombs were dropped you'd say that the Nuclear Winter wasn't man made? So you think the smog that blankets many major cities got there naturally! Chernobyl and Fukishima were built by themselves over millions of years? Hey, no need to worry about acid rain when all the clouds over your head are radioactive.

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Earworms wrote:

Neither NASA nor I suggest something like that. I drive a car everyday, use electrical appliances everyday, consume goods and services everyday. I don't have the solution to the problem and neither does any scientist for that matter.

At least you speak rationally about it. Not like the i***ts that blame everything on mankind.

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

ken hubert wrote:

At least you speak rationally about it. Not like the i***ts that blame everything on mankind.

I don't blame everything on mankind, I blame everything on mankind's stupidity! Well, maybe not that giant asteroid that brought extinction to the dinosaurs. LOL
So even if the burning of f****l f**ls isn't contributing to g****l w*****g, do you still think it's a good idea to pollute the atmosphere and the rest of our environment?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Earworms wrote:

Let's not talk about natural processes, let's talk about what man is doing to the Earth. I bet that if all the nuclear bombs were dropped you'd say that the Nuclear Winter wasn't man made? So you think the smog that blankets many major cities got there naturally! Chernobyl and Fukishima were built by themselves over millions of years? Hey, no need to worry about acid rain when all the clouds over your head are radioactive.

That's just pure nonsense, if a nuclear bomb was set off and created a nuclear winter that would be evidence that can not be denied because it would have been observed. You do realize that CO2 only makes up a percentage of 0.04% of the total atmosphere right? Even if we added a thousand percent it still would not make any difference to a climate at least no drastic changes. You're basing your theory on pure speculation not observable empirical scientific evidence.

Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California

Racmanaz wrote:

That's just pure nonsense, if a nuclear bomb was set off and created a nuclear winter that would be evidence that can not be denied because it would have been observed. You do realize that CO2 only makes up a percentage of 0.04% of the total atmosphere right? Even if we added a thousand percent it still would not make any difference to a climate at least no drastic changes. You're basing your theory on pure speculation not observable empirical scientific evidence.

Like I said earlier I watched NASA TV and they were the ones gathering the data, not me. I'm not a scientist, but they do have quite a number of scientists over at NASA. By the way, the ozone layer as measured by their satellites is getting better, the hole is closing. Good news for the planet, but then again it was probably just a natural (insert sarcasm here) phenomena to begin with. . . .

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

Earworms wrote:

I don't blame everything on mankind, I blame everything on mankind's stupidity! Well, maybe not that giant asteroid that brought extinction to the dinosaurs. LOL
So even if the burning of f****l f**ls isn't contributing to g****l w*****g, do you still think it's a good idea to pollute the atmosphere and the rest of our environment?

While man is doing harm with pesticides, dumping waste and garbage into the oceans and chemical spills, I DON'T buy into all that g****l w*****g/ ice age crap. I remember the 70's when the chicken Littles were screaming about the coming ice age. They couldn't get any money for that so they switched to g****l w*****g. Now that people caught on to that racket they now claim c*****e c****e. And fools are being led by their nose to believe that BS. Government is trying to use it to raise taxes and wealthy individuals are making millions off of it.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Racmanaz wrote:

This has been the Earths natural process for millions of years, we have had 4-5 ice ages and 4-5 warming stages....this one is no different.

This iS Different.