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Jun 28, 2016 11:35:38   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
In my recent quest to shed weight ( camera, in addition to mine, and, I am 70 now ), am looking for ways to get ride of my D7100 ( I'm seeing from reading all the articles on UHH that some are dumping their DSLRs in favor of Sonys, etc. ) and eventually the D600. Was excited to see the new DL series coming out, but on Snapsort, the Lumix FZ1000 came out a little better than the new DL24-500, and, it is half the price ( There's always a used one on eBay for about $ 500 ). Want raw,(preferably) an articulated vf, or at least a tilting one, and good picture quality; occasionally make a 16x20 or 20x24. I also have a Lumix G6, Gx7, and a couple of lenses. Am I really nuts to get ride of the Nikons ? ( love the dual card slots ).

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Jun 28, 2016 12:01:12   #
Gobuster Loc: South Florida
 
Like most things in life, there is a trade off! I too, have been experimenting with lighter, smaller sensor cameras and, for the most part, have been disappointed with the IQ. I have the Nikon 1 V3, chosen because it comes with an adapter that lets me use my existing lenses. I also have a few 1 Nikkor small lenses for it (10-30mm, 30-110mm and 10-100mm), it has a 2.7 crop factor. In good light my results are acceptable, but if you have to crank up the ISO, quality degrades quickly. Yes, it's small and light but limited. I tried the Sony A6000, it is good and it's APS-C sensor produces images comparable to the D7100. But, by the time you add lenses, the size and weight savings over the D7100 really isn't that much, so I sent it back. My favorite small camera is the Sony RX 100, it has a very good lens and easily fits in my pocket. Sensor size is 1", same as the Nikon 1 V3, but I find the IQ better, especially in low light. Sony's JPEG processor is way better than most, and you do have the RAW option if you prefer. So, for the moment, I've chosen to retain my FF D610 and D810 and when traveling, take one of them plus the Sony in my pocket for when I really want a small camera. Been spoiled by the superb images from the FF Nikons, just can't quite accept the step down in quality of the smaller sensors....yet!

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Jun 28, 2016 13:04:39   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
First, it's rid not ride. Getting rid of your DSLR's is a personal preference. If you want articulated screen then you will need to upgrade anyway; my D7200 doesn't have articulated screen so I'm guessing your D7100 doesn't either. There are a whole lot of really good, high tech bridge cameras on the market but bottom line, I don't believe any of them will produce as good an image as a quality DSLR.

It's not the camera bodies per say that are all that heavy, it's the big lenses. One of my Canon bridge cameras has 65X zoom, that's equivalent to over 1300 mm on a 35mm DSLR. My EF 85 f/1.2L lens is larger than that entire camera. What do you think will ultimately have better IQ, the super zoom bridge camera or a DSLR?!

Although I have a few years to go until the big 7 0, I can relate to what you are saying. Hefting a big super zoom lens isn't as easy as it use to be. I find myself using a tripod more and more in situations where I use to handhold the camera. I have the Sigma 150-600 Sport with a Canon EF mount and that lens is fairly heavy for its size. I got the Contemporary model for my D7200 primarily because it's a whole lot lighter. I upgraded my EF 100-400 zoom from the push pull to the series II not because the series II is all that much better, it's a whole lot lighter and much easier to handhold.

Have you looked into mirrorless cameras? They're getting better and better and the technology they use is right up there with the top end DSLR's.

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Jun 28, 2016 13:14:17   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Ed Chu wrote:
In my recent quest to shed weight ( camera, in addition to mine, and, I am 70 now ), am looking for ways to get ride of my D7100 ( I'm seeing from reading all the articles on UHH that some are dumping their DSLRs in favor of Sonys, etc. ) and eventually the D600. Was excited to see the new DL series coming out, but on Snapsort, the Lumix FZ1000 came out a little better than the new DL24-500, and, it is half the price ( There's always a used one on eBay for about $ 500 ). Want raw,(preferably) an articulated vf, or at least a tilting one, and good picture quality; occasionally make a 16x20 or 20x24. I also have a Lumix G6, Gx7, and a couple of lenses. Am I really nuts to get ride of the Nikons ? ( love the dual card slots ).
In my recent quest to shed weight ( camera, in add... (show quote)


Although I have a couple of compacts, I prefer the DSLR (D750) for anything serious. It seems to me that the results are better, compared to my Sony WX9, RX100 IV, and Canon SD 800.

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Jun 28, 2016 13:33:49   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Although I have a couple of compacts, I prefer the DSLR (D750) for anything serious. It seems to me that the results are better, compared to my Sony WX9, RX100 IV, and Canon SD 800.


For lightness Nikon P900 here as bridge.

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Jun 28, 2016 13:51:32   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Ed Chu wrote:
In my recent quest to shed weight ( camera, in addition to mine, and, I am 70 now ), am looking for ways to get ride of my D7100 ( I'm seeing from reading all the articles on UHH that some are dumping their DSLRs in favor of Sonys, etc. ) and eventually the D600. Was excited to see the new DL series coming out, but on Snapsort, the Lumix FZ1000 came out a little better than the new DL24-500, and, it is half the price ( There's always a used one on eBay for about $ 500 ). Want raw,(preferably) an articulated vf, or at least a tilting one, and good picture quality; occasionally make a 16x20 or 20x24. I also have a Lumix G6, Gx7, and a couple of lenses. Am I really nuts to get ride of the Nikons ? ( love the dual card slots ).
In my recent quest to shed weight ( camera, in add... (show quote)


Funny how Snapsort is reviewing a camera that is not even available yet, just shows how little credit you should give their reviews.

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Jun 28, 2016 14:50:07   #
Gobuster Loc: South Florida
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Funny how Snapsort is reviewing a camera that is not even available yet, just shows how little credit you should give their reviews.


Seems to me Snapsort does not "review" in the sense of actually trying the cameras, they simply list the difference in specification, draw conclusions and recommend products based on specs alone! Whilst somewhat useful, no substitute for an actual hands on review and IQ comparison.

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Jun 28, 2016 15:55:51   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Gobuster wrote:
Seems to me Snapsort does not "review" in the sense of actually trying the cameras, they simply list the difference in specification, draw conclusions and recommend products based on specs alone! Whilst somewhat useful, no substitute for an actual hands on review and IQ comparison.


Absolutely.
Snapsorts "Score" has always been a joke, it is 40% based on "popularity" of a model, meaning the number of them reported actually sold. Popularity has no place at all in any comparison scoring as age on the market becomes the principle factor of that comparison so a new model will always be outscored by an old model. That's why I ignore Snapsorts "score". The one thing they are good for is a side by side comparison of physical features, and nothing else.

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Jun 28, 2016 16:03:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Funny how Snapsort is reviewing a camera that is not even available yet, just shows how little credit you should give their reviews.


Kind of them, isn't it? I think they judge cameras based on specs, not hands-on use. I'm glad I'm not shopping for a camera. I wouldn't know where to begin.

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Jun 28, 2016 16:05:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Gobuster wrote:
Seems to me Snapsort does not "review" in the sense of actually trying the cameras, they simply list the difference in specification, draw conclusions and recommend products based on specs alone! Whilst somewhat useful, no substitute for an actual hands on review and IQ comparison.


Of course, but it's also nice to see the specs side by side.

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Jun 28, 2016 16:42:35   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Link to Nikon's "DL Series" cameras HERE
Interesting group of cameras.
Would be curious to see them live.

If only they had used a slightly larger sensor like the Panasonic Lumix LX100.
...and the built-in EVF, and the retro controls.

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Jun 28, 2016 17:53:59   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
I think our thought lines are similar; wether I tote the D600 or the D710, I intend to perhaps take a DL18-50 for was shots; I did buy, as I said, a Lumix Gx7, G6, 100-300, and a 9-18; would like to hear from some of these owners;

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Jun 28, 2016 17:54:23   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
Gobuster wrote:
Seems to me Snapsort does not "review" in the sense of actually trying the cameras, they simply list the difference in specification, draw conclusions and recommend products based on specs alone! Whilst somewhat useful, no substitute for an actual hands on review and IQ comparison.


Kind of like the computerized boxing matches between fighters of different generations

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Jun 28, 2016 19:50:37   #
Ed Chu Loc: Las Vegas NV
 
correcting the typo: for wa ( wide-angle) shots

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Jun 28, 2016 19:58:38   #
Haydon
 
Yes Ed, you're nuts I'm choosing to battle it with a pair of 10 dollar weights that I lift every day to keep me in shape and using a shoulder strap and a tripod when necessary. I would extend your gear maybe with a mirrorless but I wouldn't get rid of your gear and replace. It's just too good to lose.

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