Stupid is as stupid does
Jun 23, 2016 11:17:10 #
rmalarz wrote:
Your point is quite well taken, and troublesome. It would seem an interesting study to find out why Muslims who don't support the violence of a few are so reluctant to express opposition to that violence. Perhaps they are afraid of retribution. It would make for an interesting bit of research.
--Bob
--Bob
As a serious question/statement, I wonder if some of the reticence is from fear of retribution.
We have a lot of that here in Chiraq, thus many muderers and shooters go unscathed. IF the people who see the shootings would offer names, etc., to the cops, they MIGHT have the direction they need to eventually make an arrest, but the gangs do create a lot of fear.
Jun 23, 2016 11:19:02 #
I'm well aware of TJ's marine intervention in Tripoli. In fact, it's incorporated in some song which is apparently dear to the hearts of any U.S. Marine.
However, I still contend that there are aspects of the history of the Middle Ages that could serve well in understanding the situations with which we are faced today.
--Bob
However, I still contend that there are aspects of the history of the Middle Ages that could serve well in understanding the situations with which we are faced today.
--Bob
Cykdelic wrote:
Your little platitude is cute, but not effective i... (show quote)
Jun 23, 2016 11:21:54 #
rmalarz wrote:
I'm well aware of TJ's marine intervention in Tripoli. In fact, it's incorporated in some song which is apparently dear to the hearts of any U.S. Marine.
However, I still contend that there are aspects of the history of the Middle Ages that could serve well in understanding the situations with which we are faced today.
--Bob
However, I still contend that there are aspects of the history of the Middle Ages that could serve well in understanding the situations with which we are faced today.
--Bob
Well, surprise! I agree with you! It can definitely assist in understanding today's situation, but it cannot drive it.
Pax. Stay cool down there.
Jun 23, 2016 11:26:56 #
Staying cool down here is damned near impossible. However, I tend to look at the positive side. Living in this desert heat for as long as I have, I've developed a very tainted view of how bad hell can be. 
Stay safe in that battle ground in which you live.
--Bob
Stay safe in that battle ground in which you live.
--Bob
Cykdelic wrote:
Well, surprise! I agree with you! It can definitely assist in understanding today's situation, but it cannot drive it.
Pax. Stay cool down there.
Pax. Stay cool down there.
Jun 23, 2016 11:28:47 #
Cykdelic wrote:
However, given both the silence AND the support, it is entirely NOT ignorant, but a valid analysis, to say that the radical Islamist terrorists are, indeed, in favor of violence and that large portions of the entire Muslim religion sympathize with them.
What makes you think that a significant number of Muslims are silent about and support the terrorists? When Timothy McVeigh blow up the Oklahoma City federal building, how many Christians specifically rejected his Christianity? How many American still support his anti-government rhetoric? Right now, ISIS is being beaten back by armies made up ENTIRELY for Muslims who actively reject them.
Jun 23, 2016 11:33:53 #
Sadly you are preaching to the deaf. The vast number of the people have the intelligence of a pound cake ( my opologies to the pound cake}
Jun 23, 2016 13:20:10 #
rmalarz wrote:
Staying cool down here is damned near impossible. However, I tend to look at the positive side. Living in this desert heat for as long as I have, I've developed a very tainted view of how bad hell can be.
Stay safe in that battle ground in which you live.
--Bob
Stay safe in that battle ground in which you live.
--Bob
Will do.
We're heading out to Santa Fe in a few days for some R&R.
Jun 23, 2016 13:22:58 #
JamesCurran wrote:
What makes you think that a significant number of Muslims are silent about and support the terrorists? When Timothy McVeigh blow up the Oklahoma City federal building, how many Christians specifically rejected his Christianity? How many American still support his anti-government rhetoric? Right lnow, ISIS is being beaten back by armies made up ENTIRELY for Muslims who actively reject them.
Get edumacated, bro. The Saudi government, for one, the Iranian government, for another. Oh, did we mention the silence from an overwhelming majority of Imams?
As for McVeigh, as I recall we k**led him, yes? I think that says it all.
Jun 23, 2016 13:41:29 #
Cykdelic wrote:
As for McVeigh, as I recall we k**led him, yes? I think that says it all.
Yes... We arrested, tried, and executed HIM. We didn't say ship him off to a prison in a different country, saying he was "too dangerous" to be tried here. Nor did we associate all members of the "small government" "Patriot" movement (which motivated the bombing) with his crimes.
Jun 23, 2016 13:44:32 #
Cykdelic wrote:
haha.. if that said it all, k*****g Osama would "say it all" with regard to Islamic terrorism....As for McVeigh, as I recall we k**led him, yes? I think that says it all.
Jun 23, 2016 14:06:06 #
JamesCurran wrote:
Yes... We arrested, tried, and executed HIM. We didn't say ship him off to a prison in a different country, saying he was "too dangerous" to be tried here. Nor did we associate all members of the "small government" "Patriot" movement (which motivated the bombing) with his crimes.
Hmmm....didn't we get three? He was already here, and a citizen, so we did it here. The Muslims you cry for are not citizens, and are still in American soil. What's your lame point, James?????
Also note the FBI has had constant sight of the various movements in America, so again.....what's your point?
Jun 23, 2016 14:11:27 #
green wrote:
haha.. if that said it all, k*****g Osama would "say it all" with regard to Islamic terrorism.
Ha ha ha........That doesn't even make sense!
UBL was ONE leader of ONE radical Islamist terrorist group. Nothing less, nothing more. During the entire duration before his death and after 9-11, and since, there were radical Islamist terrorist attacks against America, Americans, and our allies.
Jun 23, 2016 14:19:34 #
JamesCurran wrote:
>> During the 1980's a number of Americans w... (show quote)
PROOF are you just BSing us?
Jun 23, 2016 14:34:52 #
Checkmate wrote:
PROOF are you just BSing us?
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>> During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
And a roughly equal number of Americans are kidnapped DAILY in Guatemala by Christian males.
And a roughly equal number of Americans are kidnapped DAILY in Guatemala by Christian males.
https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=15656
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There have been “express” kidnappings in recent years, primarily in Guatemala City, in which kidnappers demand a relatively small ransom that they believe can be gathered quickly. Some kidnapping gangs are known to k**l their victims whether or not the ransom is paid.
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And how many middle-eastern leaders were assassinated by the Christian males of the CIA?
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
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br 1965 - Indonesia — The CIA o*******ws the demo... (show quote)
Jun 23, 2016 14:44:21 #
JamesCurran wrote:
What makes you think that a significant number of Muslims are silent about and support the terrorists? When Timothy McVeigh blow up the Oklahoma City federal building, how many Christians specifically rejected his Christianity? How many American still support his anti-government rhetoric? Right now, ISIS is being beaten back by armies made up ENTIRELY for Muslims who actively reject them.
Contrary to the popular and oft-repeated belief among liberals and atheists, McVeigh was not a right-wing evangelical Christian. In fact, McVeigh was raised Roman Catholic, but professed agnosticism. His political beliefs were libertarian.
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