To manipulate or not manipulate, that is the question...
Oct 1, 2011 18:53:52 #
What is the purpose of your shot?
If you're shooting photojournalism, then NO! you must not manipulate the image. That is not only dishonest, but negates the entire purpose of photojournalism which is, exactly as is journalism itself, to offer a true picture of the world.
Other than journalism, you can make the image much as you desire. My own personal opinion (which applies to me only) is that I shoot the best possible photo and, if it is as good as it can be, then I am allowed to manipulate it as much as I want...my main purpose is to create Art which hangs in galleries and hospitals, among other places.
If you're shooting photojournalism, then NO! you must not manipulate the image. That is not only dishonest, but negates the entire purpose of photojournalism which is, exactly as is journalism itself, to offer a true picture of the world.
Other than journalism, you can make the image much as you desire. My own personal opinion (which applies to me only) is that I shoot the best possible photo and, if it is as good as it can be, then I am allowed to manipulate it as much as I want...my main purpose is to create Art which hangs in galleries and hospitals, among other places.
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Oct 1, 2011 22:45:15 #
bobmielke wrote:
quote=Rachel We just went over all this with almo... (show quote)
GO BOB! very well said about the beer can!
Oct 1, 2011 22:59:47 #
agej1001 wrote:
quote=bobmielke quote=Rachel We just went over a... (show quote)
I'm sorry but I can't take credit for that analogy, it was said by Scott Kelby on his live talk show known as "The Grid". His topic dealt with the use of Post Processing, is it ok. They really tore up purists who insisted they did nothing to change reality. That claim was shredded by the panel by asking simple questions of purists like, "Did you use a polarizing filter on landscapes"? did you shoot in RAW or JPG? Either answer pointed out that the camera applies correction to JPG files and you must adjust everything in RAW formatted files. Purists are trying to kid the public and themselves that they get it "right" in the camera by not using post processing. What a joke!
http://kelbytv.com/thegrid/2011/08/18/the-grid-episode-20/
Oct 2, 2011 00:32:47 #
lexstgo wrote:
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Boy could we get philosophical on this one! Man is part of nature, remember. You are assuming that man is not part of nature, but he is, it is inescapable.
Oct 2, 2011 01:34:55 #
This is a non-win argument. I've been here before on other forums. Bottom line, If you want to compete in the photographic world you must use editing software or you will not be competitive, either professionally or as an amateur in photo contests. Them's the facts off life. You can argue and fuss and call names but it won't change a thing. Get with the times or be left behind, whimpering how much of a purist you are. "I done it right" the purist cries.
Oct 2, 2011 02:58:24 #
Oct 2, 2011 17:12:03 #
Not wanting to get into a "pissing match" here but... and I know I said this on a previous post elsewhere... moving a beer can is "housekeeping" and using photographic techniques (filters, etc) is still photography. Once you start making masks and pasting images over other images you are now in the realm of graphic art.
Scott Kelby sells books on PS so of course he would say that those that complain don't know how to use it. I could say the same... in that those that rely on PS don't know how to use their camera...
but I am sure this debate will go on and on.....
Thank god we don't have painters on here or we would hear how painting is art and photography is a craft.....
Scott Kelby sells books on PS so of course he would say that those that complain don't know how to use it. I could say the same... in that those that rely on PS don't know how to use their camera...
but I am sure this debate will go on and on.....
Thank god we don't have painters on here or we would hear how painting is art and photography is a craft.....
Oct 2, 2011 19:04:32 #
Max Savant wrote:
Thank god we don't have painters on here or we would hear how painting is art and photography is a craft.....
LOL! Maybe some of us are both...and maybe both painting *and* photography are ART. I believe the world is big enough for multiple kinds of Art expression, and even many different ways of expressing oneself within any form of Art. As soon as we begin to put boundaries around artistic expression, Art begins to die. :cry:
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