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Jun 13, 2016 07:14:37   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
Jersey guy wrote:
Does anyone know the effective f values of typical cell phone cameras? It is very frustrating for me, a DSLR owner, to struggle to get a decent image in dim lighting situations, fumbling with high ISOs that create too much noise, and even with IS I too often have a blurred photo from movement, (mine or the subject's) while the non-photographers with their cells grab a bright, sharp image with no hesitation. My15-85mm Canon...not a cheap lens...is at best, f 3.5.

Went of a fishing trip and got out of the car and looked at the lake. It was awesome, never seen it so beautiful. Decided to take a photo. Went back to the car to get the DSLR and during the exchange the lighting had changed, the sun went behind a cloud. My son-in-law quickly took out his cellphone and took a picture of the original. He never lost the original light. So he showed me a picture he had to rub it in. He is a cellphone fanatic. This happens rarely but I lost that one. But I will stick with my DSLR.

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Jun 13, 2016 08:22:53   #
ckayakne Loc: Wolfeboro/Portsmouth, NH
 
I was at a family reunion last summer with my canon 5D III and 100-400 attached out near the public pool taking photos of the family. A non-family member in the pool looks up and asks, does that take better photo's than an Iphone? My response, "Yes and it's not always the camera it's the person behind it." No more questions were asked!

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Jun 13, 2016 08:37:34   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
With all the variables, it is more work to get a good shot with a DSLR than with a cell phone---but the result is worth the effort. The cell phone people will not understand.


I agree. I have an LG G3 cellphone and a Nikon D300 DSLR. Granted the 13mp camera on the cellphone does a respectable job and the photos look good. That is until you compare the cellphone photos to the D300 photos and start looking close at details, then the Nikon D300 photos are far superior, especially in low light.

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Jun 13, 2016 08:55:42   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Samsung Galaxy S5= 16 MP Taken on recent trip to Lake Erie at night, no flash.


That my cellphone too. Try taking action shots in lower light. It's a joke!

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Jun 13, 2016 09:54:08   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
SDB777 wrote:
There are cellphones on the market that have better specs then a lot of DSLRs on the market....some with megapixels counts higher then mid level cameras. So saying that those can only produce 5x7 prints would be like saying a Canon full frame with 49mp can only do 11x7!
Yes, it's nice to grab a cellphone and just point/click without thought, but a composition that shows forethought and planning are always better.

BTW, the Samsung Note 3 9.5mp and if memory serves....f/2.3 with IS and EV setting adjustment too.



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There are cellphones on the market that have bette... (show quote)


It is not all about MP the sensor in a cellphone is tiny than your fingernail they can keep shoving MP on such a small sensor but it does not increase the quality of image and that F/2.3 gives you Dof equal to about F/32 on a larger sensor

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Jun 13, 2016 10:02:59   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
All cell phone camera have very tiny sensor and a very short focal length lens, that will create very deep depth of field, so the picture will be sharp all over. That's why the picture looks good.

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Jun 13, 2016 10:06:04   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
A friend of mine went shooting with me one day. She wanted to try out all of my cameras. Her complaint was that she got better pics from her cell phone than from any of my (expensive) cameras. Turns out her phone did an automatic HDR that was really good. The image did fall down in the printing, though. Even a 4x6 wasn't too good. But since the vast majority of people don't print their pics anymore, I'm not sure that's a valid concern for most. A lot of technology is going into cell phone cameras these days to please the public. It's working.

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Jun 13, 2016 10:24:55   #
MjTahoe Loc: Napa Valley / Lake Tahoe / California Sierra
 
Camera's are tools...Know how and when to use the right tool... The trick is the eye & mind behind the camera!

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Jun 13, 2016 10:32:58   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
twowindsbear wrote:
The iPhone 6s has a ƒ/2.2 aperture.
Also f/2.2 on 6s+, probably the same camera. Lens focal length = 29mm (35mm equivalent) in my photo info. Some specs say it's 31mm.

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Jun 13, 2016 11:03:32   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
With all the variables, it is more work to get a good shot with a DSLR than with a cell phone---but the result is worth the effort. The cell phone people will not understand.




Tiny sensor. When they zoom, it is by cutting off pixels. Image quality suffers. But most of those folk will be sharing their snapshots in tiny jpeg that will be viewed, at best, on a portion of a laptop screen. They will be happy. A photographer will not.

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Jun 13, 2016 11:18:38   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Jersey guy wrote:
Thanks to all....as usual! I have a Canon T4i and sometimes I will set to multiple exposure and bracket the exposure 1/2 stop up and down. Using spot metering can be a problem at times as I'm sure you all know. If I happen to focus on a dark object I get overeposure overall.

As has been observed before on this forum, cell phone (camera) technology is improving rapidly and for those who buy expensive DSLRs and have no clue how to use their full potential, the cell route is getting more and more attention.
Thanks to all....as usual! I have a Canon T4i and... (show quote)


To a certain degree, you're right. The cellphones are more sophisticated these days. But you're Canon T4i can still out shoot them. And you're right that many expensive DSLR owners do not know the full potential of their cameras. And there are times that the camera in hand (the cellphone) versus the one in the camera bag will get picture. But my choice and bet is on the camera, be it a DSLR or mirrorless.

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Jun 13, 2016 11:22:00   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
You can always look at the EXIF data of the phone images to see what's going on concerning aperture/shutter speed.

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Jun 13, 2016 11:26:44   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
My son and I both have (now aging) Samsung Galaxy S5s. It seems that a couple times a year his family will be in a place with a perfect spontaneous family moment. His better camera is not handy and out comes the phone. I've printed two of those moments to 13x19 and framed them. They are hanging on his wall. A good photographer shoots the picture with the best gear he/she has and does not quibble about what it is if he/she gets the shot.

One of my bad habits is not learning the capabilities of my phone and refusing to use take advantage of what it can do.

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Jun 13, 2016 11:40:45   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I've found Auto ISO to be very helpful in low light with my DSLR.

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Jun 13, 2016 11:55:24   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
With all the variables, it is more work to get a good shot with a DSLR than with a cell phone---but the result is worth the effort. The cell phone people will not understand.


Is is obvious that camera lenses can be superior to smartphone lenses in the technicals. But the part the image conveys - thought, feeling, emotion, message - has little to do with the lens technicals. Of course, the better the technicals the better the image, but not so likely the message.

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