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Michele Bachmann Claims Swiss Citizenship
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May 8, 2012 22:26:08   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html

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May 9, 2012 08:54:11   #
Nels
 
hmmm...interesting...not that running for office over there is of any note...but...since the U S has made gains with the Swiss and their banks on finding tax evaders...(not that Michelle or her family is in that catagory) but generally if gaining Swiss cit could protect someones accounts from being reported back to U S treasury...

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May 9, 2012 08:59:00   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Nels wrote:
hmmm...interesting...not that running for office over there is of any note...but...since the U S has made gains with the Swiss and their banks on finding tax evaders...(not that Michelle or her family is in that catagory) but generally if gaining Swiss cit could protect someones accounts from being reported back to U S treasury...


Actually, it's her husband that went through the process in respose to her children's wishes that they have dual citizenship.

She became a citizen automatically as did the rest of her family.

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May 9, 2012 09:40:15   #
Nels
 
rpavich wrote:
Nels wrote:
hmmm...interesting...not that running for office over there is of any note...but...since the U S has made gains with the Swiss and their banks on finding tax evaders...(not that Michelle or her family is in that catagory) but generally if gaining Swiss cit could protect someones accounts from being reported back to U S treasury...


Actually, it's her husband that went through the process in respose to her children's wishes that they have dual citizenship.

She became a citizen automatically as did the rest of her family.
quote=Nels hmmm...interesting...not that running ... (show quote)


I read the article...my question was what the effect of a dual cit might afford in general...not what the Bachmans reasons were or not..

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May 9, 2012 10:56:40   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Good for her.


Mac wrote:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76072.html

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May 9, 2012 11:15:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Nels wrote:
rpavich wrote:
Nels wrote:
hmmm...interesting...not that running for office over there is of any note...but...since the U S has made gains with the Swiss and their banks on finding tax evaders...(not that Michelle or her family is in that catagory) but generally if gaining Swiss cit could protect someones accounts from being reported back to U S treasury...


Actually, it's her husband that went through the process in respose to her children's wishes that they have dual citizenship.

She became a citizen automatically as did the rest of her family.
quote=Nels hmmm...interesting...not that running ... (show quote)


I read the article...my question was what the effect of a dual cit might afford in general...not what the Bachmans reasons were or not..
quote=rpavich quote=Nels hmmm...interesting...no... (show quote)

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I understand now, I was just thrown a bit because you specifically mentioned tax evasion and nothing else...that's all.

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May 9, 2012 13:24:22   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
rpavich wrote:
She became a citizen automatically as did the rest of her family.


Really? I'm not surprised, because the Swiss are not famed for sexual equality, but as far as I recall, if my first wife had taken up the option of Swiss citizenship during the time we were married, I'd have had to pay quite a lot to become Swiss as well. The fee for her UK-born mother (whose father was Swiss) was nominal; my ex-wife would have had to pay a lot more; and the fee for my Swiss citizenship would have been very substantial, which was why we didn't bother. Maybe Swiss law has changed in 35 years, though.

Cheers,

R.

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May 9, 2012 14:59:42   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
There are many reasons to become a dual citizen, if I apply for my American citizenship, will hold both US and Canadian, there are many advantages to holding dual.

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May 9, 2012 15:03:49   #
twowindsbear
 
Aren't you required to renounce US citizenship to become another nation's citizen?? Shouldn't that disqualify her, immediately, from serving in Congress?

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May 9, 2012 15:18:22   #
liebgard
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Aren't you required to renounce US citizenship to become another nation's citizen?? Shouldn't that disqualify her, immediately, from serving in Congress?


that's what we thought years ago. Apparently the U.S.A. allows people of many countries to have dual citizenship, Israel, Canada, Swiss, to name just a few. Don't know why for many of the counries allowed. There's no way you can pledge allegiance; how would that be adjudicated in case of conflict between the dual countries?

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May 9, 2012 15:28:57   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
liebgard wrote:
There's no way you can pledge allegiance; how would that be adjudicated in case of conflict between the dual countries?


I don't think that's true at all. If I were of Swiss decent and there was some advantage to being a dual citizen, I would do it and that would in no way mean that now my allegiance wasn't to the USA....not at all.

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May 9, 2012 15:37:11   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
MWAC wrote:
There are many reasons to become a dual citizen, if I apply for my American citizenship, will hold both US and Canadian, there are many advantages to holding dual.


We'd be happy to have you.

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May 9, 2012 15:48:01   #
liebgard
 
rpavich wrote:
liebgard wrote:
There's no way you can pledge allegiance; how would that be adjudicated in case of conflict between the dual countries?


I don't think that's true at all. If I were of Swiss decent and there was some advantage to being a dual citizen, I would do it and that would in no way mean that now my allegiance wasn't to the USA....not at all.


You missed the part where I said "in case of conflict between the two countries." In any other case, not at all; you can just ride along. Perhaps dual citizenship is allowed if no conflict between the other country and the US is expected?

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May 9, 2012 15:58:32   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Aren't you required to renounce US citizenship to become another nation's citizen?


No. I believe it used to be the case but it has not been so for many years. My wife has had dual nationality, American and British, since the 1990s. Citizenship of an EU country (or Switzerland or Iceland or Norway, if I recall correctly) is just about essential if you want to live in the EU without enormous amounts of bureaucratic hassle.

A major disadvantage of US citizenship (or even of holding a green card) is that you are required to fill in US tax forms every year as well as those off the country in which you live. Few if any other civilized countries impose such an onerous and pointless requirement: normally, bilateral tax treaties remove the obligation even to file personal income tax in any country other than the one in which you live.

As soon as I found out that the US expected me to file taxes for the rest of my life, regardless of where I live, I returned my Green Card. I am profoundly grateful that I never took out US citizenship, though I could fairly easily have done so. This last observation will no doubt provoke irrational hatred from some people.

Cheers,

R.

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May 9, 2012 16:36:01   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
liebgard wrote:
rpavich wrote:
liebgard wrote:
There's no way you can pledge allegiance; how would that be adjudicated in case of conflict between the dual countries?


I don't think that's true at all. If I were of Swiss decent and there was some advantage to being a dual citizen, I would do it and that would in no way mean that now my allegiance wasn't to the USA....not at all.


You missed the part where I said "in case of conflict between the two countries." In any other case, not at all; you can just ride along. Perhaps dual citizenship is allowed if no conflict between the other country tadd the US is expected?
quote=rpavich quote=liebgard There's no way you... (show quote)

Ok...I'll add that too...in case of a conflict....

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