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Jun 8, 2016 13:30:09   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
salewis wrote:
Just wondering why many people refer to a cell phone as an iPhone when the android phones sell collectively better than the Apple iPhone. It's almost like referring to all soft drinks as Coke. Just wondering.

I own an LG V10. Great 16 mp f1.8 camera. The expanded controls work well. Takes great photos-none to share presently.

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Jun 8, 2016 13:55:26   #
Larrymc Loc: Mississippi
 
Sounds like low frequency camera shake to me which can't easily be handled by Shake reduction systems. In all the answers here, no one has mentioned proper camera holding technique and how to stand in a stable position while shooting. There are a bunch of internet sites demonstrating the proper techniques so there is no need to go into them here. As far as smart phone cameras are concerned, I doubt that any camera held close to arms length can be stabilized properly for very long.

Gregger wrote:
I received a photo from my brother taken with an iPhone this weekend. The photo is sharper than the photos I take at least the jpg. I don't develop many. It looked like the gloss film photos. I rarely see photos this sharp. What am I doing wrong?

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Jun 8, 2016 14:02:36   #
Islandgal Loc: Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Canada
 
burkphoto wrote:
The issue of quality is extremely complex. It is not as simple as adding more pixels.

I worked in a pro lab for decades. In the early days of digital, we had 1.3 MP, 3.2 MP, 5.3 MP, then 6 MP image files. Once we hit 5.3 MP (Nikon D1x), professionals were selling prints of head-and-shoulders portraits at sizes from 8x10 through 40x60. At normal viewing distances (1X to 1.5X the print diagonal dimension), they look fine.

Yes, more MP make things easier, facilitating cropping and enlargement and improving resolution at larger sizes, but the story of quality includes a lot of other factors:

Dynamic range
Noise
Headroom
Sensor site size
Sensor format
Sensor technology
In-camera image processing system design and constraints
Image capture bit depth
File type saved (raw or JPEG)
Camera menu settings referenced during processing
Post production manipulation
Exposure
Shutter speed
Lens design
Lens aperture
Diffraction limiting aperture for the sensor in use
Stabilization on/off
Tripod used/not used
Light level and applied lighting ratio
Contrast range of the scene

It goes on and on. What you learn with experience is that most advanced cameras are better than most advanced photographers! We strive to stretch the cameras' limits by stretching ours.
The issue of quality is extremely complex. It is n... (show quote)


Thank you for taking the time to answer burkephoto, I will take all those factors to heart. I guess the grass doesn't have to be greener on the other side of the fence ( ie: the newest gear ) I just need to be more diligent with my technique. Shooting with older Canon 20D and 5D. Trish

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Jun 8, 2016 14:12:43   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
salewis wrote:
Just wondering why many people refer to a cell phone as an iPhone when the android phones sell collectively better than the Apple iPhone. It's almost like referring to all soft drinks as Coke. Just wondering.


I never refer to cell phones. Cell phones are passe. I do refer to smartphones for their general category, or I refer to the OS (iOS or Android or...), ...or to the specific phone. That's trade press protocol, which is where I learned it.

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Jun 8, 2016 14:16:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Islandgal wrote:
Thank you for taking the time to answer burkephoto, I will take all those factors to heart. I guess the grass doesn't have to be greener on the other side of the fence ( ie: the newest gear ) I just need to be more diligent with my technique. Shooting with older Canon 20D and 5D. Trish


NOTHING wrong with those cameras. I used both for years --- especially the 20D. We had over 300 of them where I worked (Herff Jones Photography Division, sold to Lifetouch in 2011).

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Jun 8, 2016 16:49:15   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
I am often surprised just how well my iPhone 6 does--compared to my D810--sort of like comparing my Prius to my SLK--the top end of the SLK is pretty high--but within normal use not that much difference--and in tricky lighting the iPhone is hard to beat
Stan

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Jun 8, 2016 17:04:59   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
ldef wrote:
I have found that my lack of sharpness is due to camera shake. Hard to always have a tripod. To adjust in those situations, (low light etc) I will resort to shutter priority with a fast enough shutter speed to reduce/eliminate the shakes. I'd rather have some noise or DOF issues than a blown shot. You can't fix blurry.
Boost your ISO and shoot at a faster shutter speed to eliminate shake.

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Jun 8, 2016 17:10:31   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Larrymc wrote:
Sounds like low frequency camera shake to me which can't easily be handled by Shake reduction systems. In all the answers here, no one has mentioned proper camera holding technique and how to stand in a stable position while shooting. There are a bunch of internet sites demonstrating the proper techniques so there is no need to go into them here. As far as smart phone cameras are concerned, I doubt that any camera held close to arms length can be stabilized properly for very long.


Balogna.

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Jun 8, 2016 17:11:05   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
stan0301 wrote:
I am often surprised just how well my iPhone 6 does--compared to my D810--sort of like comparing my Prius to my SLK--the top end of the SLK is pretty high--but within normal use not that much difference--and in tricky lighting the iPhone is hard to beat
Stan



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Jun 8, 2016 20:55:37   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Larrymc wrote:
In all the answers here, no one has mentioned proper camera holding technique and how to stand in a stable position while shooting. There are a bunch of internet sites demonstrating the proper techniques so there is no need to go into them here. As far as smart phone cameras are concerned, I doubt that any camera held close to arms length can be stabilized properly for very long.


A smart phone is a very awkward camera to hold. It's hard to keep steady and shoot with one hand - it's actually easier to do with my micro four thirds cameras. I wind up having to hold my phone sideways in a regular two-handed shooting position for any stability. Holding it far away is no problem for me.

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Jun 8, 2016 22:59:41   #
Sinewsworn Loc: Port Orchard, WA
 
n3eg wrote:
A smart phone is a very awkward camera to hold. It's hard to keep steady and shoot with one hand - it's actually easier to do with my micro four thirds cameras. I wind up having to hold my phone sideways in a regular two-handed shooting position for any stability. Holding it far away is no problem for me.



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Jun 9, 2016 17:23:29   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
Gregger wrote:
I received a photo from my brother taken with an iPhone this weekend. The photo is sharper than the photos I take at least the jpg. I don't develop many. It looked like the gloss film photos. I rarely see photos this sharp. What am I doing wrong?


Learn to see your camera settings on your computer. ISO, F-stop, shutter speed. They all can affect sharpness or blur. Post in the HOG and click on "store original" and then ask for advise. We can tell what you did right or wrong. David

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Aug 26, 2017 19:25:42   #
kocart Loc: Illinois
 
If you have ever had a drop or bump to that camera, lens or body damage can destroy sharpness without ever being obvious to you. Anything suspicious in the past handling of your camera? Get a checkup for it if you think it might have a problem!

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