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May 8, 2012 15:51:51   #
Photoman74 Loc: Conroe Tx
 
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion - if you will get a film camera and shoot a roll or two (35mm at pawn shop or off e-bay) you will learn much faster than any other method. Using F-stop - shutter speed - ASA(ISO) - and focus without any help from the camera will be of benefit. You will understand the relationship of the Exposure triangle and understand the need for a steady hand(tripod) IF you do this, find a subject (anything that does not move,statues Bridge, building)shoot the whole roll by changing the settings on one distance. Next process,Camera store Wal - Mart ect, next roll you move in and around subject 360 degree and shoot at the best exposure you know for the changing light. After just two rolls you will have increased your knowledge 10 fold.

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May 8, 2012 16:13:21   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Photoman74 wrote:
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion - if you will get a film camera and shoot a roll or two (35mm at pawn shop or off e-bay) you will learn much faster than any other method. Using F-stop - shutter speed - ASA(ISO) - and focus without any help from the camera will be of benefit. You will understand the relationship of the Exposure triangle and understand the need for a steady hand(tripod) IF you do this, find a subject (anything that does not move,statues Bridge, building)shoot the whole roll by changing the settings on one distance. Next process,Camera store Wal - Mart ect, next roll you move in and around subject 360 degree and shoot at the best exposure you know for the changing light. After just two rolls you will have increased your knowledge 10 fold.
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion -... (show quote)


Actually I think you learn faster with digital because of the instant feedback and how you can access your EXIF on your camera or computer screen, with film you have to wait for the lab to develop it, send it back and then try and recall what settings you used to get those results and then back to the drawing board and start all over.

Now saying that, my girls shot film. lmao

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May 8, 2012 16:17:19   #
Photoman74 Loc: Conroe Tx
 
MWAC wrote:
Photoman74 wrote:
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion - if you will get a film camera and shoot a roll or two (35mm at pawn shop or off e-bay) you will learn much faster than any other method. Using F-stop - shutter speed - ASA(ISO) - and focus without any help from the camera will be of benefit. You will understand the relationship of the Exposure triangle and understand the need for a steady hand(tripod) IF you do this, find a subject (anything that does not move,statues Bridge, building)shoot the whole roll by changing the settings on one distance. Next process,Camera store Wal - Mart ect, next roll you move in and around subject 360 degree and shoot at the best exposure you know for the changing light. After just two rolls you will have increased your knowledge 10 fold.
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion -... (show quote)


Actually I think you learn faster with digital because of the instant feedback and how you can access your EXIF on your camera or computer screen, with film you have to wait for the lab to develop it, send it back and then try and recall what settings you used to get those results and then back to the drawing board and start all over.

Now saying that, my girls shot film. lmao
quote=Photoman74 Any new people to photography - ... (show quote)

Instant feed back yes, understand ???? - pen and paper - 20 exp film, control subject = learning and understanding.

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May 8, 2012 16:29:55   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Photoman74 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Photoman74 wrote:
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion - if you will get a film camera and shoot a roll or two (35mm at pawn shop or off e-bay) you will learn much faster than any other method. Using F-stop - shutter speed - ASA(ISO) - and focus without any help from the camera will be of benefit. You will understand the relationship of the Exposure triangle and understand the need for a steady hand(tripod) IF you do this, find a subject (anything that does not move,statues Bridge, building)shoot the whole roll by changing the settings on one distance. Next process,Camera store Wal - Mart ect, next roll you move in and around subject 360 degree and shoot at the best exposure you know for the changing light. After just two rolls you will have increased your knowledge 10 fold.
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion -... (show quote)


Actually I think you learn faster with digital because of the instant feedback and how you can access your EXIF on your camera or computer screen, with film you have to wait for the lab to develop it, send it back and then try and recall what settings you used to get those results and then back to the drawing board and start all over.

Now saying that, my girls shot film. lmao
quote=Photoman74 Any new people to photography - ... (show quote)

Instant feed back yes, understand ???? - pen and paper - 20 exp film, control subject = learning and understanding.
quote=MWAC quote=Photoman74 Any new people to ph... (show quote)


I'm sorry but I still don't think film is the fastest way to learn about photography. I believe digital is the fastest way because of the instant feedback and the ability to see how changing one variable can change the whole outcome of your image. I shot both film and digital but if it wasn't for digital I wouldn't have learned as quickly about how the exposure triangle works or how SS, Aperture and ISO relate to eachother, it's the instant feedback that gave me that knowledge, not waiting for my film to come back and looking over my notes that are written down in note pads.

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May 8, 2012 16:32:30   #
bhfranklin Loc: Boston Area / Cape Cod
 
I like your concept Photoman, but have to agree with MWAC that you can accomplish the same with digital and faster. Cheaper too for the processing.

New users would do well to follow your approach and force themselves to learn in manual without all of the fancy scenes, etc.

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May 8, 2012 16:36:02   #
snowbear
 
Regardless of the medium used, avoid the green square aka Auto mode.

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May 8, 2012 16:36:41   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
I would just like to point out that "P" doe NOT stand for "Professional" lmao

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May 8, 2012 17:39:14   #
snowbear
 
MWAC wrote:
I would just like to point out that "P" doe NOT stand for "Professional" lmao

:thumbup:

Sure it does . . . and the "R" on an automatic transmission means "Race!"

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May 8, 2012 18:06:46   #
Photoman74 Loc: Conroe Tx
 
MWAC wrote:
Photoman74 wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Photoman74 wrote:
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion - if you will get a film camera and shoot a roll or two (35mm at pawn shop or off e-bay) you will learn much faster than any other method. Using F-stop - shutter speed - ASA(ISO) - and focus without any help from the camera will be of benefit. You will understand the relationship of the Exposure triangle and understand the need for a steady hand(tripod) IF you do this, find a subject (anything that does not move,statues Bridge, building)shoot the whole roll by changing the settings on one distance. Next process,Camera store Wal - Mart ect, next roll you move in and around subject 360 degree and shoot at the best exposure you know for the changing light. After just two rolls you will have increased your knowledge 10 fold.
Any new people to photography - it is my opinion -... (show quote)


Actually I think you learn faster with digital because of the instant feedback and how you can access your EXIF on your camera or computer screen, with film you have to wait for the lab to develop it, send it back and then try and recall what settings you used to get those results and then back to the drawing board and start all over.

Now saying that, my girls shot film. lmao
quote=Photoman74 Any new people to photography - ... (show quote)

Instant feed back yes, understand ???? - pen and paper - 20 exp film, control subject = learning and understanding.
quote=MWAC quote=Photoman74 Any new people to ph... (show quote)


I'm sorry but I still don't think film is the fastest way to learn about photography. I believe digital is the fastest way because of the instant feedback and the ability to see how changing one variable can change the whole outcome of your image. I shot both film and digital but if it wasn't for digital I wouldn't have learned as quickly about how the exposure triangle works or how SS, Aperture and ISO relate to eachother, it's the instant feedback that gave me that knowledge, not waiting for my film to come back and looking over my notes that are written down in note pads.
quote=Photoman74 quote=MWAC quote=Photoman74 An... (show quote)

#3 lawyers 12 opinions.

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May 8, 2012 18:38:06   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I am considering digging out my Maxxum slr film camera and using it on a day trip May 26. I think B&W ASA 100 film would be interesting for some shots. I plan to use lenses from DSLR, most like the 1.4 50mm. I would mostly use my DSLR, but there are some shots that B&W film would be interesting.

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May 9, 2012 08:54:37   #
molsonice Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
There is a point where even with glasses you can have a hard time with the manual focus so AF is great in that respect. But with film you can waist a lot of pictures taking several pictures at one setting to achieve that desired photo. With Digital you can take many more and discare those you would not turn into prints anway and here you are receiving instant feedback making necessary adjustments to produce the best quality photograph and not just making pictures to throw away when they come back from the developer.

Sorry I vote Digital :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 9, 2012 09:43:46   #
mdeman Loc: Damascus, Maryland
 
I'm cheap. You can do exactly the same thing as film camera just by using Manual and picking a single ISO for all your shots. That's one roll of film, equivalent. Then pick another ISO and shoot another "roll". Not only will you get quick feedback, but it's free and you will get over your fear of the dreaded transition from Auto to Manual.

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May 9, 2012 12:45:59   #
donnadiann
 
Hey Everyone,
I'm very glad I came to this site. I've learned some things already just by reading the posts, and it seems to be a friendly community of photographers. I'm fairly new at photography and I want to learn from those who know more than I do, about taking photos.

The happiest day to you:)
donnadiann

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May 9, 2012 12:55:24   #
donnadiann
 
donnadiann wrote:
Hey Everyone,
I'm very glad I came to this site. I've learned some things already just by reading the posts, and it seems to be a friendly community of photographers. I'm fairly new at photography and I want to learn from those who know more than I do, about taking photos.

P.S. I think "old school" film camera is less complicated--I'm having a hard time with my digital camera--got to learn it first:)

The happiest day to you:)
donnadiann

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May 9, 2012 13:00:54   #
donnadiann
 
donnadiann wrote:
Hey Everyone,
I'm very glad I came to this site. I've learned some things already just by reading the posts, and it seems to be a friendly community of photographers. I'm fairly new at photography and I want to learn from those who know more than I do, about taking photos.

PS. I think "old school" film camera is less complicated--I'm having a hard time with my digital camera--got to learn it first:)

The happiest day to you:)
donnadiann

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