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Donald Trump's disrespect for the military is appalling – and unprecedented
May 30, 2016 06:22:08   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/donald-trump-disrespect-military-veterans-appalling-unprecedented

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May 30, 2016 06:28:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dirtpusher wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/donald-trump-disrespect-military-veterans-appalling-unprecedented


Well, that's Trump. He's been like that for his whole campaign. Either you (generically speaking) support Trump, or you don't. You can't decide which of his ridiculous statements are acceptable and which aren't. I believe his "bloviating," as the author calls it, is his way of getting attention. And it's working. Most of the political reporting is about Trump. If he gets elected, we're going to see a totally different man being sworn in. And he won't be giving the military any illegal orders - at least no more illegal that past Presidents.

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May 30, 2016 06:41:35   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Well, that's Trump. He's been like that for his whole campaign. Either you (generically speaking) support Trump, or you don't. You can't decide which of his ridiculous statements are acceptable and which aren't. I believe his "bloviating," as the author calls it, is his way of getting attention. And it's working. Most of the political reporting is about Trump. If he gets elected, we're going to see a totally different man being sworn in. And he won't be giving the military any illegal orders - at least no more illegal that past Presidents.
Well, that's Trump. He's been like that for his w... (show quote)


i believe the "bloviating" especially in an inflated or empty way. he must own a flip flop factory.

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May 30, 2016 06:54:24   #
Bobbee
 
dirtpusher wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/29/donald-trump-disrespect-military-veterans-appalling-unprecedented



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May 30, 2016 07:32:57   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Well, that's Trump. He's been like that for his whole campaign. Either you (generically speaking) support Trump, or you don't. You can't decide which of his ridiculous statements are acceptable and which aren't. I believe his "bloviating," as the author calls it, is his way of getting attention. And it's working. Most of the political reporting is about Trump. If he gets elected, we're going to see a totally different man being sworn in. And he won't be giving the military any illegal orders - at least no more illegal that past Presidents.
Well, that's Trump. He's been like that for his w... (show quote)


There is a long history of videos of Mr. Trump on TV. and recordings of his interviews on radio. What makes you think he will change if elected? I wonder why anyone would v**e for someone hopping he would change? As for the military he has said he would be against war,but he also claimed he would stop ISIS. He has not announced any plans or policy about how he would do this. if he has some plan to go back into Iraq shouldn't the v**ers have some idea how he will accomplish this? I think if he is elected his administration would be 24/7 reality TV.

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May 30, 2016 10:22:31   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
As a whole the article paints the right picture of trump. Too bad the author misquotes trump so much. He rewords trump statements to make them even more inflammatory then puts quote marks around them. (Check the quote on McCain.)

Hurts the op-ed's credibility in a big way. Why did the writer do that? The real quotes were quite sufficient to make the point.

Is this another winger site like Brietbart that stretches facts to sensationalize a point for its side of the spectrum?

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May 30, 2016 10:35:39   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
mwalsh wrote:
As a whole the article paints the right picture of trump. Too bad the author misquotes trump so much. He rewords trump statements to make them even more inflammatory then puts quote marks around them. (Check the quote on McCain.)

Hurts the op-ed's credibility in a big way. Why did the writer do that? The real quotes were quite sufficient to make the point.

Is this another winger site like Brietbart that stretches facts to sensationalize a point for its side of the spectrum?
As a whole the article paints the right picture of... (show quote)


he’s never been pinned down on his positions on some major issues.


haven't you noticed everything he has stated he would do. knowing this will get peoples v**es, he has already backed away from them. from building a wall. now they are guest workers.


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While most p**********l candidates craft detailed platforms and spend years trying to sell them to v**ers, GOP front-runner Donald Trump sometimes takes up two or three contradictory policy positions in the same week — or even the same interview.

Image: Donald Trump, Anderson Cooper
Republican p**********l candidate, Donald Trump participates in a CNN town hall with Anderson Cooper in the historic Riverside Theatre, Tuesday, March 29, 2016, in Milwaukee. Charles Rex Arbogast / AP
It's difficult to glean a platform from Trump's powerfully incoherent rhetoric while navigating the quicksand-like task of separating fact from Trump's many exaggerations and outright falsehoods in thousands of interviews. It's perhaps harder still to get the GOP front-runner to address policy questions directly. The candidate often declines to offer specifics, arguing that unpredictability is an advantage he'll use to cut better deals, just as his critics say this is a sign he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Trump's shifting stances aren't just challenging for reporters tasked with covering him— they're also a source of consternation for his party, as more than a few of his stated policies directly contradict the GOP platform.

"You have to have a certain degree of flexibility," the Republican front-runner said in a March debate when confronted on his evolving policy plank, taking a stance on immigration he'd reverse hours later. "You can't say, it's OK, and then you find out it's not OK and you don't want to do anything. You have to be flexible, because you learn."

To understand and track Trump's views, we've compiled a list of his past and present positions on issues since the billionaire real estate mogul announced his candidacy, along with any explanation the candidate has offered on the changes.

PlayThe many flip-flops of Donald Trump Facebook Twitter Google Plus Embed
The many flip-flops of Donald Trump 2:14
A******N

1. Criminalize women who have a******ns.

Though Trump said in 1999 that he was "very pro-choice," Trump has consistently claimed that he's against a******n, except for in cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother's life, since starting his bid last June.

2. Let the states decide what to do about criminalizing a******n.

At 3:36, Trump put out a statement saying the issue is "unclear and should be put back into the states for determination."

3. Never mind. Don't punish the women.

He fully walked back his position that women should be punished for violating a theoretical a******n ban 80 minutes later, releasing a statement saying "the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb."

DEFEATING ISIS
1. Maybe send troops in. Definitely go after the oil fields.

In Trump's first interview after announcing his bid, he signaled that he'd both send in ground troops to Iraq and not send in ground troops.

"You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in," he told Bill O'Reilly, who remarked that the plan necessitated ground forces.

hell list just keeps going

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e******n/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801

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May 30, 2016 11:15:40   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
The Guardian does, however, have a solution to Da Trumpster and a number of other noxious current entities: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/30/james-bond-007-relevant-donald-trump-oligarchs

As the column says, Daniel Craig would be the ideal James Bond for this vital quest.

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May 30, 2016 12:18:28   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
dirtpusher wrote:
he’s never been pinned down on his positions on some major issues.


haven't you noticed everything he has stated he would do. knowing this will get peoples v**es, he has already backed away from them. from building a wall. now they are guest workers.


SHARE

While most p**********l candidates craft detailed platforms and spend years trying to sell them to v**ers, GOP front-runner Donald Trump sometimes takes up two or three contradictory policy positions in the same week — or even the same interview.

Image: Donald Trump, Anderson Cooper
Republican p**********l candidate, Donald Trump participates in a CNN town hall with Anderson Cooper in the historic Riverside Theatre, Tuesday, March 29, 2016, in Milwaukee. Charles Rex Arbogast / AP
It's difficult to glean a platform from Trump's powerfully incoherent rhetoric while navigating the quicksand-like task of separating fact from Trump's many exaggerations and outright falsehoods in thousands of interviews. It's perhaps harder still to get the GOP front-runner to address policy questions directly. The candidate often declines to offer specifics, arguing that unpredictability is an advantage he'll use to cut better deals, just as his critics say this is a sign he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Trump's shifting stances aren't just challenging for reporters tasked with covering him— they're also a source of consternation for his party, as more than a few of his stated policies directly contradict the GOP platform.

"You have to have a certain degree of flexibility," the Republican front-runner said in a March debate when confronted on his evolving policy plank, taking a stance on immigration he'd reverse hours later. "You can't say, it's OK, and then you find out it's not OK and you don't want to do anything. You have to be flexible, because you learn."

To understand and track Trump's views, we've compiled a list of his past and present positions on issues since the billionaire real estate mogul announced his candidacy, along with any explanation the candidate has offered on the changes.

PlayThe many flip-flops of Donald Trump Facebook Twitter Google Plus Embed
The many flip-flops of Donald Trump 2:14
A******N

1. Criminalize women who have a******ns.

Though Trump said in 1999 that he was "very pro-choice," Trump has consistently claimed that he's against a******n, except for in cases of rape, incest, or to save the mother's life, since starting his bid last June.

2. Let the states decide what to do about criminalizing a******n.

At 3:36, Trump put out a statement saying the issue is "unclear and should be put back into the states for determination."

3. Never mind. Don't punish the women.

He fully walked back his position that women should be punished for violating a theoretical a******n ban 80 minutes later, releasing a statement saying "the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb."

DEFEATING ISIS
1. Maybe send troops in. Definitely go after the oil fields.

In Trump's first interview after announcing his bid, he signaled that he'd both send in ground troops to Iraq and not send in ground troops.

"You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in," he told Bill O'Reilly, who remarked that the plan necessitated ground forces.

hell list just keeps going

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-e******n/full-list-donald-trump-s-rapidly-changing-policy-positions-n547801
he’s never been pinned down on his positions on so... (show quote)



Why "Quote Reply" me if you not even gonna touch what I said?

Just post you comment on its own. It does not relate to my observation of the op-ed blatantly misquoting trump on an easily verifiable quote.

I tend to agree with what you just put up, but why tie it to my observation? Just sayin.

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May 30, 2016 12:28:58   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
mwalsh wrote:
Why "Quote Reply" me if you not even gonna touch what I said?

Just post you comment on its own. It does not relate to my observation of the op-ed blatantly misquoting trump on an easily verifiable quote.

I tend to agree with what you just put up, but why tie it to my observation? Just sayin.


well i supposen it may had something to do with misquotes. how about this one..

The Trump who now extols veterans spent years clamoring for New York City’s politicians to take action and ban even those street vendors with special disabled veteran’s licenses from the environs of Trump Tower.

As was reported in the New York Daily News, Trump wrote in a letter to the New York state Assembly back in 1991, “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses?”

He went on, “Do we allow Fifth Avenue, one of the world’s finest and most luxurious shopping districts, to be turned into an outdoor flea market, clogging and seriously downgrading the area?”

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May 30, 2016 12:40:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
steve03 wrote:
4What makes you think he will change if elected?


Wishful thinking. :D

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