Question from a friend
I wonder if there is any way to assess lens sharpness with software,
as opposed to getting a bunch of expensive prints made.
Why not just view the images at 100% on a computer screen?
There is more to a lens sharpness than just viewing at 100% on a computer screen. An image that looks sharp on a computer screen may very well be unsharp when printed large. If the focus was off, the subject moved slightly, the photographer moved slightly, et al, all affect sharpness... That said, sharpness isn't the panacea that many think it is. Many of the better known images from the past were not sharp. Best way to determine sharpness is thru bench testing like DxOmark does. Problem is though, that just because a lens tests well under bench tests doesn't mean that a person will be able to replicate that in real world shooting. Plus you also have sample variation within different samples of the same lens. In actuality, even making prints may not be the better way to judge a lenses "sharpness" as what I mentioned above applies to prints also, even if a tripod i used. In bench testing, methods used are much more elaborate that one could do in the field.
Why not look at competent Imatest results done by reviewsers ?
Screamin Scott wrote:
There is more to a lens sharpness than just viewing at 100% on a computer screen. An image that looks sharp on a computer screen may very well be unsharp when printed large. If the focus was off, the subject moved slightly, the photographer moved slightly, et al, all affect sharpness... That said, sharpness isn't the panacea that many think it is. Many of the better known images from the past were not sharp. Best way to determine sharpness is thru bench testing like DxOmark does. Problem is though, that just because a lens tests well under bench tests doesn't mean that a person will be able to replicate that in real world shooting. Plus you also have sample variation within different samples of the same lens. In actuality, even making prints may not be the better way to judge a lenses "sharpness" as what I mentioned above applies to prints also, even if a tripod i used. In bench testing, methods used are much more elaborate that one could do in the field.
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Well that is a mouthful to end up saying nothing of importance!
."..........That said, sharpness isn't the panacea that many think it is."
That statement will all make us strive for perfection where needed !
So you are implying that you want a lens for ,let's say portraits, that shows up every imperfection of a woman's face ? I think not. The point I'm stressing is that it is dependent on the subject. Sharpness isn't necessarily what we need in all cases, yet it's something that everyone dotes on when looking for a lens. More input as to what is desired is needed before a selection can be made. I shoot a lot of macro & thus, yes, sharpness means a lot for my images, but for a Fine Arts shooter, it's importance is not as great.. <
TucsonCoyote wrote:
Well that is a mouthful to end up saying nothing of importance!
."..........That said, sharpness isn't the panacea that many think it is."
That statement will all make us strive for perfection where needed !
Screamin Scott wrote:
...Best way to determine sharpness is thru bench testing like DxOmark does...
I'm not disagreeing with you, Scott, but many times when I go to check out some lens on DxO, my research is twarted by the fact they haven't tested THAT lens yet. I think the OP was expressing a frustration many of us have felt due to the lack of some reasonable means by which UHH member "A" can 'test' the comparitive qualities (not just sharpness ) of lens "B" before shelling out the requisite $1,200 clams to buy it.
LensTip.com tests lenses in twelve different categories. I like to check their image resolution tests. Here are the charts for the Nikon 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6. The upper chart is for lens center. The lens is its sharpest when set to 30mm and f/5.6. It's resolving about 44 line pairs per millimeter there. The lower chart is for lens edge. 30mm and f/8 are the sharpest. It's resolving about 39 line pairs per millimeter there
There is some very clever software around now for sharpening digital pics. Perhaps that will be the way to go when extreme sharpness is required - might save a packet!
fstop11 wrote:
Question from a friend
I wonder if there is any way to assess lens sharpness with software,
as opposed to getting a bunch of expensive prints made.
truthfully, lens "sharpness" is a red herring. it simply does not matter. all lenses, with good reputations, are "sharp" at appropriate apertures with an appropriate subject. just do not worry about it.
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