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May 7, 2012 16:06:51   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Not long ago, when gasoline prices were going up, there was a whole lot of noise blaming this on Barak Obama. Calls for Obama to do something to lower the prices. Now gasoline prices have gone down and continue to fall. Why aren't all those complainers and doom sayers stepping up to acknowledge the price drop?

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May 7, 2012 16:20:28   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Because it doesn't play into their view of how the current administration is distorying America.

I will admit I do not understand how the president of the united states helps set gas prices, can someone explain that to me?

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May 7, 2012 16:29:17   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
MWAC wrote:
Because it doesn't play into their view of how the current administration is destroying America.

I will admit I do not understand how the president of the united states helps set gas prices, can someone explain that to me?


Well, young lady, it's very simple. It's all a wicked socialist-commie-Marxist-Moslem plot. You really haven't been paying attention to the wisdom of your elders and betters on the forum, have you? That's probably because you're female (everyone knows that thinking overheats the female brain) and not a US citizen (US citizens are widely recognized globally as the only people who can think clearly).

(Please forgive me if I now omit another three paragraphs of patronizing drivel, but it's probably quicker for you to imagine it than for me to write it. Or you can just cut and paste it from others' posts.)

Cheers,

R.

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May 7, 2012 16:36:35   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
he does by not aproving domestic drilling in areas where there is a large oil reserves. he also does it by threatening new taxes. not to mention vetoing a much needed pipeline that would be economicaly beneficial for both Canada and us, creating thousands of well paying union jobs. the federal govt currently requires oil refiners to market 27 different blends of gas, increasing cost. there hasn't been a new oil refinery built in this country since 1972. a govt that overregulates and taxes ( US has the highest corporat income tax in the world, even more so than COMMUNIST CHINA. )Oil prices flucuate due to uncertanty in the market be it from military action like bombing lybia ( imagine the outrage if W had done that) to inaction internationaly. aparently barry wants iran to get the bomb, and is doing nothing to stop it. not to mention hindering Israel's attempt to stop it, just like they did with sadam hussenis first nuclear weapons wmd program. anything that upsest the middle east raises gas prices. I do not think it is coincidence that as gas prices went up, barry's popularity went down. now all of sudden gas prices drop. don't worry affter the big o gets relected cause the gop is taking a dive i by nominating a flip floppingrhino, gas will go back up. he still hasn't opened up drilling in the gulf again. and wait untill the cost of obamacare kicks in long after he is gone, not just gas prices but everything. there is a reason he put such a long delay into his plan.

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May 7, 2012 16:36:59   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
Roger Hicks wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Because it doesn't play into their view of how the current administration is destroying America.

I will admit I do not understand how the president of the united states helps set gas prices, can someone explain that to me?


Well, young lady, it's very simple. It's all a wicked socialist-commie-Marxist-Moslem plot. You really haven't been paying attention to the wisdom of your elders and betters on the forum, have you? That's probably because you're female (everyone knows that thinking overheats the female brain) and not a US citizen (US citizens are widely recognized globally as the only people who can think clearly).

(Please forgive me if I now omit another three paragraphs of patronizing drivel, but it's probably quicker for you to imagine it than for me to write it. Or you can just cut and paste it from others' posts.)

Cheers,

R.
quote=MWAC Because it doesn't play into their vie... (show quote)


I got it! Thanks.... I need to sit and rest because my non-US citizen, female mind is about to explode!!! :-o

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May 7, 2012 16:46:05   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
MWAC wrote:
Because it doesn't play into their view of how the current administration is distorying America.

I will admit I do not understand how the president of the united states helps set gas prices, can someone explain that to me?


The one group who has the real power to adjust oil prices is OPEC. "Big Oil" has nothing to do with it, unless you view OPEC as "Big Oil". That having been said, the ONE thing that can significantly affect OPEC's decisions on oil prices is SUPPLY. If there is more oil on the market, then the price will go down.

IF the United States became REALLY serious about utilizing the oil reserves at its disposal, then OPEC would, by necessity, drop prices.

Remember back in the days of 'Stupid ol' George Bush' when he removed the moratorium on off shore drilling? We never dug a single hole, but just the 'threat' of more oil production sent prices spiraling downward, to a low here in Georgia of $1.79.

Obama is not willing to significantly increase oil production. He gives it lip service, but his actions say otherwise. He has, in fact, brought back the moratorium on off shore drilling.

Ergo, higher prices. Though they're a bit lower than they were several weeks ago, still...... $3.50 a gallon is WAY too much.

In the words of a now international banality - DRILL, DRILL, DRILL.

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May 7, 2012 16:47:58   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
just rember if it was not for us citizens and us money and munitions in 1917 as well as again in1941, yall non americans would be speaking german or japanese as part of the kaiser, der furers or the japanese emperors empires now. not to mention massive amounts of us dollars and troops in europe post 1945 to keep europe from having to learn russian. and when europe once again could not get its act together to stop the serb genocide of the boznians, once again Us military might had to be used to bomb the serbs back to their borders. so kindly forgive us Americans if we look out around the world and decide other than england australia poland and israel who are our friends and who gives a rats pattotie to anyone else. your country is in trouble and who you going to rely on? The French? give me a break. oh and by the way it would be nice if all of europe would actually repay their ww2 lend lease debts. luxenbourg being the only one who did.

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May 7, 2012 16:53:18   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
let me also add that if you check the campaign record you will find that evil big oil, as well as evil wall street donated far more money in campain contributions to the democrats then the did to the republicans. just ask your self where did barry raise 1 BILLON (no typo) dollars for his campaign fund? who owns him?

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May 7, 2012 16:53:40   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
gym wrote:
MWAC wrote:
Because it doesn't play into their view of how the current administration is distorying America.

I will admit I do not understand how the president of the united states helps set gas prices, can someone explain that to me?


The one group who has the real power to adjust oil prices is OPEC. "Big Oil" has nothing to do with it, unless you view OPEC as "Big Oil". That having been said, the ONE thing that can significantly affect OPEC's decisions on oil prices is SUPPLY. If there is more oil on the market, then the price will go down.

IF the United States became REALLY serious about utilizing the oil reserves at its disposal, then OPEC would, by necessity, drop prices.

Remember back in the days of 'Stupid ol' George Bush' when he removed the moratorium on off shore drilling? We never dug a single hole, but just the 'threat' of more oil production sent prices spiraling downward, to a low here in Georgia of $1.79.

Obama is not willing to significantly increase oil production. He gives it lip service, but his actions say otherwise. He has, in fact, brought back the moratorium on off shore drilling.

Ergo, higher prices. Though they're a bit lower than they were several weeks ago, still...... $3.50 a gallon is WAY too much.

In the words of a now international banality - DRILL, DRILL, DRILL.
quote=MWAC Because it doesn't play into their vie... (show quote)


thank you for taking the time to explain, I truly have often wondered why on the US news you hear about how the President of the US affects gas prices, in Canada we never hear such a thing the cost of gas is based on supply and demand. Canada has a huge supply of oil both in the traditional sense and is what is called oil sands, the world wide cost of a barrell of oil is based on how much oil OPEC wants to keep in reserve and how much it will release for public consumption. I can't think of a time were I heard how the US President is to blame or not to blame for the over all cost until I moved to Texas.

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May 7, 2012 17:01:35   #
gym Loc: Athens, Georgia
 
MWAC wrote:


thank you for taking the time to explain, I truly have often wondered why on the US news you hear about how the President of the US affects gas prices, in Canada we never hear such a thing the cost of gas is based on supply and demand. Canada has a huge supply of oil both in the traditional sense and is what is called oil sands, the world wide cost of a barrell of oil is based on how much oil OPEC wants to keep in reserve and how much it will release for public consumption. I can't think of a time were I heard how the US President is to blame or not to blame for the over all cost until I moved to Texas.
br br thank you for taking the time to explain, ... (show quote)


With that in mind, our president COULD have approved the Canadian oil pipeline. It would have helped both Canada AND the U.S. and would have been one more piece in the puzzle to bring oil prices down. But, alas, he took action against it.

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May 7, 2012 17:08:51   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
of course he did.he and his enviormental wacko friends think that if gas hits $10 a gallon like europe all of a sudden alternative energy will spring to life like magical unicorns. what i find interesting is he told his union suporters no, since building the pipeline would have helped afl-cio directly as well as steelworkers, teamsters and auto workers indirectly. and the unions fill his campaign treasure trove with far larger offerings then the tree huggers do. he hates oil, and coal.

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May 7, 2012 17:11:18   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
sinatraman wrote:
just rember if it was not for us citizens and us money and munitions in 1917 as well as again in1941, yall non americans would be speaking german or japanese as part of the kaiser, der furers or the japanese emperors empires now. not to mention massive amounts of us dollars and troops in europe post 1945 to keep europe from having to learn russian. and when europe once again could not get its act together to stop the serb genocide of the boznians, once again Us military might had to be used to bomb the serbs back to their borders. so kindly forgive us Americans if we look out around the world and decide other than england australia poland and israel who are our friends and who gives a rats pattotie to anyone else. your country is in trouble and who you going to rely on? The French? give me a break. oh and by the way it would be nice if all of europe would actually repay their ww2 lend lease debts. luxenbourg being the only one who did.
just rember if it was not for us citizens and us m... (show quote)


Well, yes. Britain chose the winning side on WW2 before there was anyone else on it, as a matter of principle, not expediency.

Besides, it's all a very long time ago, and selective history is an easy game. If it hadn't been for French support during their rebellion in the 18th century, Americans might still be speaking English. And if you want to play the game of selecting whatever period suits you, to boost a partisan viewpoint, the treatment by the USA of Native Americans doesn't look too clever. How long can you harp on the past?

Basically, the treasure of the British Empire went into American pockets, because the British Empire, initially without America support, took on the German and Italian Empires.

Cheers,

R.

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May 7, 2012 17:13:06   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
and that was about the last time anyone could count on the french. There greatest general isn't even french, napolean was a corsican.

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May 7, 2012 17:18:10   #
MWAC Loc: Somewhere East Of Crazy
 
I find it funny that the French have this bad name in the US. Why?? Is it because they refused to enter into President Bush's war on terror? come on now, that war (which has gone on far to long) was nothing more than a PR move by GWB and an attempt to finish what his father had started. Nothing more and nothing less, saddly many young people have lost their lives over a battle in a foreign country which really is a battle to control the oil and worthless sand.

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May 7, 2012 17:23:31   #
Roger Hicks Loc: Aquitaine
 
MWAC wrote:
I find it funny that the French have this bad name in the US. Why?? Is it because they refused to enter into President Bush's war on terror? come on now, that war (which has gone on far to long) was nothing more than a PR move by GWB and an attempt to finish what his father had started. Nothing more and nothing less, saddly many young people have lost their lives over a battle in a foreign country which really is a battle to control the oil and worthless sand.


You're probably too young to remember The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (that's not being patronizing, just that as far as I recall you're only about 40). There's a lovely bit in that where one character says to another, "You mean you can read my mind?"

The reply (from Marvin the Paranoid Android): "Yes. I'm amazed you can live in anything that small."

I just thought we might both know some people with minds like that...

Cheers,

R.

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