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May 9, 2016 07:47:42   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Exactly. In non technical terms ... The more space the subject takes up in the viewfinder, the more you can enlarge it and still have a reasonably sharp image. You can get the image larger in the viewfinder by either getting closer or getting a bigger lens (which in effect, gets you closer).
If you give me the OK, I'll post a shot of a nest at about 100 yds. taken with a 500mm lens.
I would also like to know what lens you were using and if the posted images are the originals or have they been cropped. This info will be needed so we can compare apples to apples.
Exactly. In non technical terms ... The more space... (show quote)


Thank you Howard! These were taken with my Canon 70D that I got last summer and continue to question the sharpness.(side point) Anyway I know what a 500mm lens will do as my friend Jack posts pics on here practically from the same spot, although with a full frame Nikon.

These are JPGs straight from the camera... Lens is an older model Tamron 28-300 AF (2000(?)) shot at 300mm, ISO: Auto:160, f/6.3 @ 1/1250 sec. Metering: Pattern

As to possible cropping... maybe 80% max would you think?

Thank You Again, Terry

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May 9, 2016 07:53:50   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
JoAnneK01 wrote:
I do like the series and your running monologue. Would have been nicer if you could have gotten closer or use a bigger lens so that more detail of the subject would tell your story better. Mahalo for sharing.


Thank you JoAnne for looking and the kind comments! I am looking at possibly picking up the new Sigma 150-600 C.

Thank you Again! Terry

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May 9, 2016 08:19:44   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
CandidCanon wrote:
Thank you Howard! These were taken with my Canon 70D that I got last summer and continue to question the sharpness.(side point) Anyway I know what a 500mm lens will do as my friend Jack posts pics on here practically from the same spot, although with a full frame Nikon.
These are JPGs straight from the camera... Lens is an older model Tamron 28-300 AF (2000(?)) shot at 300mm, ISO: Auto:160, f/6.3 @ 1/1250 sec. Metering: Pattern
As to possible cropping... maybe 80% max would you think?
Thank You Again, Terry
Thank you Howard! These were taken with my Canon 7... (show quote)

Just considering the last image because there is no movement by the bird. Look at the photo in the DOWNLOAD mode; then use the + to magnify it again. See what happens.
Now that I know you're using a zoom to 300mm, my original comments stand. You've got to get closer or get a bigger lens to take the photos you're trying to take. Some nests are just too far and you have to accept reality. And I can tell you ... NO MATTER HOW BIG THE LENS USED, there will always be some nests just too far. One last point - buy the best lens you possibly can. And without getting into a fight with other Hogs about price vs quality ... IF YOU CAN AFFORD a Canon lens, buy Canon, you will not regret it. Personally, I use Nikon :-).

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May 9, 2016 08:44:13   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Just considering the last image because there is no movement by the bird. Look at the photo in the DOWNLOAD mode; then use the + to magnify it again. See what happens.
Now that I know you're using a zoom to 300mm, my original comments stand. You've got to get closer or get a bigger lens to take the photos you're trying to take. Some nests are just too far and you have to accept reality. And I can tell you ... NO MATTER HOW BIG THE LENS USED, there will always be some nests just too far. One last point - buy the best lens you possibly can. And without getting into a fight with other Hogs about price vs quality ... IF YOU CAN AFFORD a Canon lens, buy Canon, you will not regret it. Personally, I use Nikon :-).
Just considering the last image because there is n... (show quote)


Thank You Again Howard! I will consider that as well. When you hit the + on the download image that is quite an enlargement, looks like over 4 times. What amount is actually reasonable and expect clarity?

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May 9, 2016 09:06:25   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
CandidCanon wrote:
Thank You Again Howard! I will consider that as well. When you hit the + on the download image that is quite an enlargement, looks like over 4 times. What amount is actually reasonable and expect clarity?
Granted that amount of enlargement will strain even the sharpest image but isn't that the shot you're trying to get? I just had you use it to make the point about getting closer. If you will let me post a comparable size image, mine will also start to go fuzzy but you will be able to compare. HOLD EVERYTHING. I asked if you posted the original. I meant without any re-sizing; did you re-size before posting?

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May 9, 2016 09:17:45   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Granted that amount of enlargement will strain even the sharpest image but isn't that the shot you're trying to get? I just had you use it to make the point about getting closer. If you will let me post a comparable size image, mine will also start to go fuzzy but you will be able to compare.


Yes we are and Yes you may! Thank you for taking so much of your time to help me! Terry

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May 9, 2016 09:21:28   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
CandidCanon wrote:
Yes we are and Yes you may! Thank you for taking so much of your time to help me! Terry
Please read my changes to my previous post. I have to leave now. I'll be back later.

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May 9, 2016 09:31:09   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
Howard, as I noted earlier these are JPGs straight out of the camera... no altering of any type! Thank You Again!

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May 9, 2016 11:48:19   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
CandidCanon wrote:
Howard, as I noted earlier these are JPGs straight out of the camera... no altering of any type! Thank You Again!

I am not familiar with the camera but the number of pixels looked low (600x400).
The first photo gives you an idea of how much room the eagle took up in the view finder. The second is a cropped photo from the same set (I could not find the original of the first photo). I was farther away than you but using a bigger lens (500mm) and probably a better lens (Nikon). Start comparing and you will see what you need to do to get the images you are seeking.

Original size
Original size...
(Download)

Cropped (different image) same set
Cropped (different image) same set...
(Download)

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May 9, 2016 12:29:01   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
Never mind my comment about the pixels, my images read the same as yours when posted on UHH.

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May 9, 2016 12:42:18   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
CandidCanon wrote:
Still practicing to get the focus right but hoping you might like the series anyway...


I enjoyed your captions and this series Terry.

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May 9, 2016 12:56:08   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
Howard5252 wrote:
I am not familiar with the camera but the number of pixels looked low (600x400).
The first photo gives you an idea of how much room the eagle took up in the view finder. The second is a cropped photo from the same set (I could not find the original of the first photo). I was farther away than you but using a bigger lens (500mm) and probably a better lens (Nikon). Start comparing and you will see what you need to do to get the images you are seeking.


Thanks Again for all your time Howard, I really appreciate it!! :thumbup:

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May 9, 2016 13:07:59   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
photophile wrote:
I enjoyed your captions and this series Terry.


Thank you for looking and the kind words Karin! I noticed that there was only 2 of the little ones in the nest. Later noticed Mom or Dad looked to have the other one up flying. It was diving on the parent, but not like a full attack. The bigger bird would just do an evasive maneuver and they would continued staying close to each other. It wasn't till I put them on the larger screen that I noticed the silhouette being the same just much smaller. pretty cool just wished for a longer lens!!

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May 9, 2016 14:33:15   #
photophile Loc: Lakewood, Ohio, USA
 
CandidCanon wrote:
Thank you for looking and the kind words Karin! I noticed that there was only 2 of the little ones in the nest. Later noticed Mom or Dad looked to have the other one up flying. It was diving on the parent, but not like a full attack. The bigger bird would just do an evasive maneuver and they would continued staying close to each other. It wasn't till I put them on the larger screen that I noticed the silhouette being the same just much smaller. pretty cool just wished for a longer lens!!


I photographed them at that spot with Erv. The eagle helped me out by flying to a tall tree near the road we were standing by.

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May 9, 2016 15:42:40   #
CandidCanon Loc: Akron, OH
 
photophile wrote:
I photographed them at that spot with Erv. The eagle helped me out by flying to a tall tree near the road we were standing by.



I remember when you set that up with Erv to come down... You have to be patient... we were only there 1/2 an hour Sunday so the Adults were a no show. :(

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