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Apr 7, 2016 08:49:11   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
TPM MUCKRAKER

Ex-Staffer: Wisconsin GOPers Cheered V**er ID Bill For What It 'Could Do For Us


A former top staffer for a Republican legislator in Wisconsin suggested this week that GOP legislators were motivated to pass the state’s tough photo v**er ID law because they believed it would help them at the b****t box, an account he expanded on in a Wednesday interview with TPM.

Todd Allbaugh, who served as chief of staff for state Sen. Dale Schultz (R) until the legislator retired in 2015, first made the claims in a Tuesday Facebook post that caught the attention of national v****g rights experts.

In the post, Allbaugh recalled a 2011 caucus meeting of GOP state senators about the v**er ID legislation. Allbaugh said during that meeting, some Republicans were “giddy” over the legislation's "ramifications" and the effect it would have on minority and young v**ers.

Once he left politics, Allbaugh opened a Madison, Wisconsin coffee shop, where TPM reached him over the phone and he elaborated on those claims.

“It just really incensed me that they started talking about this particular bill, and one of the senators got up and said, ‘We really need to think about the ramifications on certain neighborhoods in Milwaukee and on our college campuses and what this could do for us,’” Allbaugh said. “The phrase ‘v**er suppression’ was never used, but it was certainly clear what was meant.”

While Schultz, Allbaugh’s former boss, has notably spoken out against more recent restrictions on v****g, he v**ed for the 2011 bill. According to Allbaugh, at this point in the point of meeting, Schultz brought up his own concerns with the v**er ID legislation.

“He was immediately shot down by another senator who said, ‘What I am interested in is getting results here and using the power while we have it, because if the Democrats were in control they would do they same thing to us, so I want to use it while we have it,'” Allbaugh said.

Allbaugh said Schultz left the meeting in frustration after that, while he stayed behind to continue taking notes.

“It left a pit in my stomach to think that a party that I had worked for for years and years and years was literally talking and plotting to deny someone, a fellow citizen, their constitutional right,” Allbaugh said.

Allbaugh told TPM he was stirred to write the initial Facebook post after one of his young employees, who had moved from California to Wisconsin, was unable to v**e Tuesday. Albaugh said that because the employee's California ID did not meet the state’s requirements to v**e, he was told he needed to show his California birth certificate, which the employee was not going to be able to produce in time.

“When you see the real world ramification, it just sickens you,” Allbaugh said. “I have to tell people what’s going on.”

Schultz was asked about Allbaugh’s Facebook post on Wednesday by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The former lawmaker said he would not discuss what happened in a closed door meeting, but praised Allbaugh for his "honesty and integrity,” which Schultz said were “beyond reproach.”

By coincidence, after Allbaugh’s Facebook post went up, U.S. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) told a local TV station that the Wisconsin photo ID law would help Republicans win in November’s e******n. Grothman served in the state Senate from 2005-2015.

Allbaugh said he didn’t want to name names from his account of the 2011 caucus meeting, but he confirmed that Grothman was in the room.

“He has outed himself," Allbaugh said. "He was one of those that was saying these things."

Grothman's office on Wednesday night did not immediately return a request for comment from TPM.

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Apr 7, 2016 09:01:11   #
richard-sports Loc: New York City
 
This is the reason why the Repukes can win e******ns.
Fu-- democracy, just winning is what is important to these people.
Win so we can encourage poverty, homophobia, Islamophobia, r****m and all that great stuff that we Repukes love so much.

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Apr 7, 2016 09:27:11   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
richard-sports wrote:
This is the reason why the Repukes can win e******ns.
Fu-- democracy, just winning is what is important to these people.
Win so we can encourage poverty, homophobia, Islamophobia, r****m and all that great stuff that we Repukes love so much.


hh'ers decline to admit it. too funny. but sad for the country :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Apr 7, 2016 10:57:45   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
richard-sports wrote:
This is the reason why the Repukes can win e******ns.
Fu-- democracy, just winning is what is important to these people.
Win so we can encourage poverty, homophobia, Islamophobia, r****m and all that great stuff that we Repukes love so much.

Democraps already own poverty, h**e, homophobia, r****m and they love their Islamic Terrorists being allowed into the states. So little dickhead-sports is wrong again.

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Apr 7, 2016 11:41:08   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Checkmate wrote:
Democraps already own poverty, h**e, homophobia, r****m and they love their Islamic Terrorists being allowed into the states. So little dickhead-sports is wrong again.


are you done talking about repukes yet :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Apr 7, 2016 12:50:43   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Twardlow wrote:
TPM MUCKRAKER

Ex-Staffer: Wisconsin GOPers Cheered V**er ID Bill For What It 'Could Do For Us


A former top staffer for a Republican legislator in Wisconsin suggested this week that GOP legislators were motivated to pass the state’s tough photo v**er ID law because they believed it would help them at the b****t box, an account he expanded on in a Wednesday interview with TPM.

Todd Allbaugh, who served as chief of staff for state Sen. Dale Schultz (R) until the legislator retired in 2015, first made the claims in a Tuesday Facebook post that caught the attention of national v****g rights experts.

In the post, Allbaugh recalled a 2011 caucus meeting of GOP state senators about the v**er ID legislation. Allbaugh said during that meeting, some Republicans were “giddy” over the legislation's "ramifications" and the effect it would have on minority and young v**ers.

Once he left politics, Allbaugh opened a Madison, Wisconsin coffee shop, where TPM reached him over the phone and he elaborated on those claims.

“It just really incensed me that they started talking about this particular bill, and one of the senators got up and said, ‘We really need to think about the ramifications on certain neighborhoods in Milwaukee and on our college campuses and what this could do for us,’” Allbaugh said. “The phrase ‘v**er suppression’ was never used, but it was certainly clear what was meant.”

While Schultz, Allbaugh’s former boss, has notably spoken out against more recent restrictions on v****g, he v**ed for the 2011 bill. According to Allbaugh, at this point in the point of meeting, Schultz brought up his own concerns with the v**er ID legislation.

“He was immediately shot down by another senator who said, ‘What I am interested in is getting results here and using the power while we have it, because if the Democrats were in control they would do they same thing to us, so I want to use it while we have it,'” Allbaugh said.

Allbaugh said Schultz left the meeting in frustration after that, while he stayed behind to continue taking notes.

“It left a pit in my stomach to think that a party that I had worked for for years and years and years was literally talking and plotting to deny someone, a fellow citizen, their constitutional right,” Allbaugh said.

Allbaugh told TPM he was stirred to write the initial Facebook post after one of his young employees, who had moved from California to Wisconsin, was unable to v**e Tuesday. Albaugh said that because the employee's California ID did not meet the state’s requirements to v**e, he was told he needed to show his California birth certificate, which the employee was not going to be able to produce in time.

“When you see the real world ramification, it just sickens you,” Allbaugh said. “I have to tell people what’s going on.”

Schultz was asked about Allbaugh’s Facebook post on Wednesday by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The former lawmaker said he would not discuss what happened in a closed door meeting, but praised Allbaugh for his "honesty and integrity,” which Schultz said were “beyond reproach.”

By coincidence, after Allbaugh’s Facebook post went up, U.S. Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI) told a local TV station that the Wisconsin photo ID law would help Republicans win in November’s e******n. Grothman served in the state Senate from 2005-2015.

Allbaugh said he didn’t want to name names from his account of the 2011 caucus meeting, but he confirmed that Grothman was in the room.

“He has outed himself," Allbaugh said. "He was one of those that was saying these things."

Grothman's office on Wednesday night did not immediately return a request for comment from TPM.
TPM MUCKRAKER br br Ex-Staffer: Wisconsin GOPers ... (show quote)


Yup, illegal v**er suppression is the intent of v**er ID laws......it's a good law to keep the e******ns free from fraud...get over it.

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Apr 7, 2016 15:47:59   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Once again we see liberals bypassing common sense. The v**er ID issue is trumped (no pun intended) issue by the liberal side. It is a large part of their propaganda that ignorant and ill informed v**ers swallow.

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Apr 7, 2016 15:54:11   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Zophman wrote:
Once again we see liberals bypassing common sense. The v**er ID issue is trumped (no pun intended) issue by the liberal side. It is a large part of their propaganda that ignorant and ill informed v**ers swallow.


It's true, ole buddy, verified, and actual, and documented, and not for the first time.

V**er Supression is the name, and V**er Suppression is the game.

V**er Suppression is what it is, and to the shame of anyone who believes in Democracy.

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Apr 7, 2016 15:58:35   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Twardlow wrote:
It's true, ole buddy, verified, and actual, and documented, and not for the first time.

V**er Supression is the name, and V**er Suppression is the game.

V**er Suppression is what it is, and to the shame of anyone who believes in Democracy.


Yeah. Says you. From most of your posts I have determined that your opinions are accurate only 12.4% of the time. Pretty low probability that you are correct here.

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Apr 7, 2016 17:38:43   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Zophman wrote:
Yeah. Says you. From most of your posts I have determined that your opinions are accurate only 12.4% of the time. Pretty low probability that you are correct here.


Not so, Buddy. Go refigure.

You're way off.


JUSTICE
Study Finds Republican V**er Suppression Is Even More Effective Than You Think
BY SCOTT KEYES FEB 2, 2016 2:44 PM


For years, researchers warned that laws requiring v**ers to show certain forms of photo identification at the poll would discriminate against racial minorities and other groups. Now, the first study has been released showing that the proliferation of v**er ID laws in recent years has indeed driven down minority v**er turnout, and by a significant amount.

In a new paper entitled “V**er Identification Laws and the Suppression of Minority V**es”, researchers at the University of California, San Diego — Zoltan Hajnal, N**ita Lajevardi — and Bucknell University — Lindsay Nielson — used data from the annual Cooperative Congressional E******n Study to compare states with strict v**er ID laws to those that allow v**ers without photo ID to cast a b****t. They found a clear and significant dampening effect on minority turnout in strict v**er ID states.

(Snip)

(Note: ThinkProgress was provided an updated version of the paper [not currently available on the web] that includes data from the 2014 e******ns. The numbers in this article reflect the updated paper, not the web version linked above.)

For example, the researchers found that in primary e******ns, “a strict ID law could be expected to depress Latino turnout by 9.3 points, Black turnout by 8.6 points, and Asian American turnout by 12.5 points.”

The impact of strict v**er ID was also evident in general e******ns, where minority turnout plummeted in relation to the white v**e. “For Latinos in the general e******n, the predicted gap more than doubles from 4.9 points in states without strict ID laws to 13.5 points in states with strict photo ID laws,” the study found. That gap increased by 2.2 points for African Americans and by 5 points for Asian Americans. The effect was even more pronounced in primary e******ns.

(article continues...)

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Apr 7, 2016 18:00:15   #
Zophman Loc: Northwest
 
Like I said, the probability of you being correct is less than 15%. Chanches are real good that your information is not correct. But again, nothing is absolute. Is it?

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Apr 7, 2016 20:56:38   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
Zophman wrote:
Like I said, the probability of you being correct is less than 15%. Chanches are real good that your information is not correct. But again, nothing is absolute. Is it?


Then how does that explain the fact that Tom's posts include facts and data derived from published sources with verifiable information? You haven't disproved ONE of Tom's claims, let alone 85%. Where did you get this "being correct is less than 15%"? From your arse again? You really are just completely full of s**t these days, aren't you?

You obviously can't dispute any of the facts from this article and can't refute the words that came right out of the horse's mouth - Republicans in Wisconsin about v**er suppression - so you have to retreat to your tired childish insults and false accusations against the messenger. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You really are just a complete waste of time and not worth the attempt to ever engage you in an honest conversation. Just like most of your other right wing buddies here.

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Apr 7, 2016 20:59:37   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Zophman wrote:
Like I said, the probability of you being correct is less than 15%. Chanches are real good that your information is not correct. But again, nothing is absolute. Is it?


Wrongo.....

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Apr 7, 2016 21:00:35   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Twardlow wrote:
It's true, ole buddy, verified, and actual, and documented, and not for the first time.

V**er Supression is the name, and V**er Suppression is the game.

V**er Suppression is what it is, and to the shame of anyone who believes in Democracy.


when perseus selected group. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Apr 7, 2016 21:02:59   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Keenan wrote:
Then how does that explain the fact that Tom's posts include facts and data derived from published sources with verifiable information? You haven't disproved ONE of Tom's claims, let alone 85%. Where did you get this "being correct is less than 15%"? From your arse again? You really are just completely full of s**t these days, aren't you?

You obviously can't dispute any of the facts from this article and can't refute the words that came right out of the horse's mouth - Republicans in Wisconsin about v**er suppression - so you have to retreat to your tired childish insults and false accusations against the messenger. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You really are just a complete waste of time and not worth the attempt to ever engage you in an honest conversation. Just like most of your other right wing buddies here.
Then how does that explain the fact that Tom's pos... (show quote)


he doesn't know how :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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