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Apr 4, 2016 14:22:17   #
FSATIN Loc: Westchester, NY
 
I would like opinions from other members on which lense makes the most sense. I have a Canon 70d with a 300mm f4 is and 1.4 converter. I also have a Oly em-1. I have been researching a long zoom lens for birding and wildlife shots. I have looked at the Sigma 150-600C and the Panasonic 100-400 for the mirrorless camera. My Canon with the 300 and 1.4 gets my reach to 672mm, the Sigma gets me 600 and the Panasonic on the Oly gets me 800. Do you feel that I should stay with my 300mm prime or go to the other two lens for more reach without using a converter and also for getting a more flexible zoom. The other question is whether the mirrorless at 800 is better or equal to the Sigma?
Any thoughts would be appreciated

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Apr 4, 2016 14:38:33   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
The Sigma on your 70D will get the eq of 960.

I have the Tamron 150-600 and Canon 100-400 mk I. I am waiting to see about the rumors of a Canon 200-600 coming out this year. Other wise I want to upgrade the 100-400 mk I to a mk II for the big AF improvement.
I use them on a 6D and 7DII.

Of your choices I think I would go with the Sigma just because of the docking station for tuning and firmware upgrades. (of course if $ permits, go for the Sport instead of the Contemporary)

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Apr 4, 2016 15:08:29   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
FSATIN wrote:
I would like opinions from other members on which lense makes the most sense. I have a Canon 70d with a 300mm f4 is and 1.4 converter. I also have a Oly em-1. I have been researching a long zoom lens for birding and wildlife shots. I have looked at the Sigma 150-600C and the Panasonic 100-400 for the mirrorless camera. My Canon with the 300 and 1.4 gets my reach to 672mm, the Sigma gets me 600 and the Panasonic on the Oly gets me 800. Do you feel that I should stay with my 300mm prime or go to the other two lens for more reach without using a converter and also for getting a more flexible zoom. The other question is whether the mirrorless at 800 is better or equal to the Sigma?
Any thoughts would be appreciated
I would like opinions from other members on which ... (show quote)


the sigma is a great lens, but the sport is a much better choice than the C model.

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Apr 4, 2016 15:28:44   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
I would consider a Sigma 150-600 Sport Model. It is a great lens for birds and wildlife. I have one and can speak from experience.
FSATIN wrote:
I would like opinions from other members on which lense makes the most sense. I have a Canon 70d with a 300mm f4 is and 1.4 converter. I also have a Oly em-1. I have been researching a long zoom lens for birding and wildlife shots. I have looked at the Sigma 150-600C and the Panasonic 100-400 for the mirrorless camera. My Canon with the 300 and 1.4 gets my reach to 672mm, the Sigma gets me 600 and the Panasonic on the Oly gets me 800. Do you feel that I should stay with my 300mm prime or go to the other two lens for more reach without using a converter and also for getting a more flexible zoom. The other question is whether the mirrorless at 800 is better or equal to the Sigma?
Any thoughts would be appreciated
I would like opinions from other members on which ... (show quote)

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Apr 4, 2016 16:40:28   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
Lots of my bird photography friends use the 150-600 and like it a lot. I don't know if they are using the sport or C but i suspect most have the sport.

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Apr 4, 2016 17:04:05   #
FSATIN Loc: Westchester, NY
 
Thanks for fixing the Sigma range. Since you have the 100-400 already - do you think I should sell the 300mm f4 for the new 100-400 mk2 instead of the Sigma or Tamron zooms?

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Apr 4, 2016 17:08:44   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
FSATIN wrote:
Thanks for fixing the Sigma range. Since you have the 100-400 already - do you think I should sell the 300mm f4 for the new 100-400 mk2 instead of the Sigma or Tamron zooms?


if you already own it, that 300mm lens is a great lens.

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Apr 4, 2016 17:37:15   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
I have the 150-600 C Sigmas for my 7D Mark II. I thought about the Sport, but decided to go with the C as it is easier to hand hold. If later down the road I decide to upgrade I always can, but so far I'm quite happy with the C.

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Apr 4, 2016 18:34:41   #
Haydon
 
This might seem like an odd response but if you build your own bird studio in your backyard and buy yourself a blind, your existing setup will work just fine. You'll be able to get much closer to your birds. Check out this link and watch the video. It's a goldmine of information.

Watch Season 5 Episode 8

http://totallyoutdoorsimaging.com/portfolio_page/wild-photo-adventures-season-5/

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Apr 4, 2016 19:17:29   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
FSATIN wrote:
Thanks for fixing the Sigma range. Since you have the 100-400 already - do you think I should sell the 300mm f4 for the new 100-400 mk2 instead of the Sigma or Tamron zooms?


The two advantages I can see in the 100-400 Mk II for you would be the zooming and the 3' MFD.

If you are working at 300 f/4 then you are a bit faster. It is also smaller and lighter by a bit.

As I said I am holding off on going from the 100-400 mk I to the II until I see what is with the rumors about a 200-600. If it comes out and is as good or better IQ wise I may trade the mk I and my Tamron 150-600. It would reduce my lens load by one. I have a 10-24 for APS-C, a 14 mm for FF, the 24-105L, 100-400L mk I, Tamron 150-600 now. Replace the last two with the 200-600 ?????? and then I would look for a good used 70-200 to cover the gap. My bodies are the 6D and 7DII.

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Apr 4, 2016 19:24:49   #
Haydon
 
robertjerl wrote:
The two advantages I can see in the 100-400 Mk II for you would be the zooming and the 3' MFD.

If you are working at 300 tf/4 then you are a bit faster. It is also smaller and lighter by a bit.

As I said I am holding off on going from the 100-400 mk I to the II until I see what is with the rumors about a 200-600. If it comes out and is as good or better IQ wise I may trade the mk I and my Tamron 150-600. It would reduce my lens load by one. I have a 10-24 for APS-C, a 14 mm for FF, the 24-105L, 100-400L mk I, Tamron 150-600 now. Replace the last two with the 200-600 ?????? and then I would look for a good used 70-200 to cover the gap. My bodies are the 6D and 7DII.
The two advantages I can see in the 100-400 Mk II ... (show quote)


If that 200-600mm comes out as an L lens you can count on it being $3000+. It won't be cheaper than the 100-400 and that's retailing at $2100.

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Apr 4, 2016 19:28:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Haydon wrote:
If that 200-600mm comes out as an L lens you can count on it being $3000+. It won't be cheaper than the 100-400 and that's retailing at $2100.


The rumor is it will be a non L at $1700. I can live without the L weather sealing etc.

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Apr 4, 2016 19:31:30   #
Haydon
 
robertjerl wrote:
The rumor is it will be a non L at $1700. I can live without the L weather sealing etc.


We'll have to see, IMO they need something that fits in with the budget zooms for sure but....there isn't anything definitive as to it being L or non L., just speculation. Canon's being very tight lipped this year about its' products. Lots of talk at CR.

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Apr 4, 2016 22:31:13   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Haydon wrote:
If that 200-600mm comes out as an L lens you can count on it being $3000+. It won't be cheaper than the 100-400 and that's retailing at $2100.


I haven't heard or looked, so I'm purely guessing here.
But it would probably be a very inexpensive lens to compete with the new Nikon and the 3rd party lenses.
Canon already has two L zooms in the 100-400 and the big dollar 200-400+1.4
Its big hole is in the low end. But this is, as I said, purely a guess! ;-)
SS

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Apr 4, 2016 22:34:45   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
On Canon Watch:

http://www.canonwatch.com/canon-ef-200-600mm-f4-5-5-6-not-l-lens-coming-summer-2016-cw2/

Note, they mention the patent last year for a 200-600 zoom.

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