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Mar 24, 2016 17:12:40   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, international street photographer, entitled" Why the 4" iPhone SE will Revolutionize Photography." Inasmuch as this issue has been discussed before thought it would of interest to see what another is saying about the direction that photography is taking for the vast majority of people today. Below are three paragraphs from that article:

"First of all, I believe the iPhone 6S camera (now the iPhone SE camera) is more than sufficient for 99% of us photographers. Many of us now upload our photos to Instagram and social networks; where we see the images through a 4 to 6 inch screen. Unfortunately for most photographers, printing photos is a thing of the past. So unless you plan on printing your photos super large, a 12-megapixel camera is more than enough for you."

"Secondly, you no longer “need” a laptop, desktop, or a proper computing device. Your smartphone can do almost anything that your laptop/desktop can do. Especially for us photographers, we can use free tools like VSCO to edit/post-process our images."

"Thirdly, our smartphones are also publishing devices. In the past, photographers had to print their images if they wanted their images to “exist” in the real world. Nowadays we can upload our photos immediately to social media networks. direct message them to our friends, or view on our devices for our own enjoyment."

Can't say that I disagree with him. However, I wonder what the camera manufacturers are doing in response to the growing trend of the smartphone replacing the traditional camera.

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Mar 24, 2016 17:27:22   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
charles brown wrote:
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, international street photographer, entitled" Why the 4" iPhone SE will Revolutionize Photography." Inasmuch as this issue has been discussed before thought it would of interest to see what another is saying about the direction that photography is taking for the vast majority of people today. Below are three paragraphs from that article:

"First of all, I believe the iPhone 6S camera (now the iPhone SE camera) is more than sufficient for 99% of us photographers. Many of us now upload our photos to Instagram and social networks; where we see the images through a 4 to 6 inch screen. Unfortunately for most photographers, printing photos is a thing of the past. So unless you plan on printing your photos super large, a 12-megapixel camera is more than enough for you."

"Secondly, you no longer “need” a laptop, desktop, or a proper computing device. Your smartphone can do almost anything that your laptop/desktop can do. Especially for us photographers, we can use free tools like VSCO to edit/post-process our images."

"Thirdly, our smartphones are also publishing devices. In the past, photographers had to print their images if they wanted their images to “exist” in the real world. Nowadays we can upload our photos immediately to social media networks. direct message them to our friends, or view on our devices for our own enjoyment."

Can't say that I disagree with him. However, I wonder what the camera manufacturers are doing in response to the growing trend of the smartphone replacing the traditional camera.
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, internat... (show quote)


a smart phone will never replace my dslr, period. I do see the need to use a smart phone for a snap shot when I do not have my camera with me, but for me, a snap shot is all you get when you use a smart phone. no different that a lower level point and shoot.
furthermore, I have never been approached by anyone while using a smart phone to do a photo shoot at a wedding or other gathering where photographs are wanted for keepsakes. I have been approached while out with my dslr.

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Mar 24, 2016 17:30:19   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
charles brown wrote:
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, international street photographer, entitled" Why the 4" iPhone SE will Revolutionize Photography." Inasmuch as this issue has been discussed before thought it would of interest to see what another is saying about the direction that photography is taking for the vast majority of people today ...
Charles, if you believe this article is worth reading, why don't you provide its URL? I could be wrong, but I believe that would attract more people to see what you think, etc. :wink: 8-)

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Mar 24, 2016 17:37:31   #
chaman
 
Guess Im in the 1% then.

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Mar 24, 2016 17:41:19   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
I guess they'll just all be "phonie" photographers.

What is the ratio of good shots to bad in glare or difficult light conditions?

Just went through a few days working with screen only on a new used mirrorless while waiting for the EVF to arrive. Not my cup of tea, and inferior to viewfinder except under ideal light conditions.

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Mar 24, 2016 17:46:45   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
lev29 wrote:
Charles, if you believe this article is worth reading, why don't you provide its URL? I could be wrong, but I believe that would attract more people to see what you think, etc. :wink: 8-)


You are right, should have provided. Now if I can only find it again. :oops:

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Mar 24, 2016 17:46:50   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
charles brown wrote:
"Thirdly, our smartphones are also publishing devices. In the past, photographers had to print their images if they wanted their images to “exist” in the real world. Nowadays we can upload our photos immediately to social media networks. direct message them to our friends, or view on our devices for our own enjoyment."
This was never quite as true as many thought. Some of us never did produce prints - we produced slides which were projected to "exist" in the real world. For example, a decade ago one of the "in jokes" in Evangelical Christian circles was "how did the early Apostles ever do their jobs without slide projectors?" {because every visiting missionary coming through town would have a projector and screen with him/her so s/he could show his/her work. Likewise, when famed Railroad photographer Jim Boyd came to the Purdue Railroad Club to show his work, it was in the form of slides {I have often given his show credit for my combining my two hobbies together}

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Mar 24, 2016 17:49:02   #
jonsommer Loc: Usually, somewhere on the U.S. west coast.
 
Methinks that "revolutionize" might be a word that is overused. For a photo to be more than a snapshot, we all know that substantial skill and knowledge is required, regardless of the hardware being used. I have read that digital revolutionized photography by replacing film, or did digital just make it more convenient for more people to take more snapshots. I've also read that full frame and medium format will revolutionize photography, or will this technology just make it easier for more people to take very clear and crisp snapshots? To me, revolutionize, would have to be a game changer, like maybe a two lense camera producing 3D photos or a camera so 'smart' that it would be impossible to take a bad photo. 'Revolutionize' would have to mean a lot more than everybody has a convenient image capturing device with them all the time to take more selfies and snapshots. But the word 'revolutionize' certainly does make for an arresting headline, doesn't it?

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Mar 24, 2016 17:50:03   #
Haydon
 
charles brown wrote:
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, international street photographer, entitled" Why the 4" iPhone SE will Revolutionize Photography." Inasmuch as this issue has been discussed before thought it would of interest to see what another is saying about the direction that photography is taking for the vast majority of people today. Below are three paragraphs from that article:

"First of all, I believe the iPhone 6S camera (now the iPhone SE camera) is more than sufficient for 99% of us photographers. Many of us now upload our photos to Instagram and social networks; where we see the images through a 4 to 6 inch screen. Unfortunately for most photographers, printing photos is a thing of the past. So unless you plan on printing your photos super large, a 12-megapixel camera is more than enough for you."

"Secondly, you no longer “need” a laptop, desktop, or a proper computing device. Your smartphone can do almost anything that your laptop/desktop can do. Especially for us photographers, we can use free tools like VSCO to edit/post-process our images."

"Thirdly, our smartphones are also publishing devices. In the past, photographers had to print their images if they wanted their images to “exist” in the real world. Nowadays we can upload our photos immediately to social media networks. direct message them to our friends, or view on our devices for our own enjoyment."

Can't say that I disagree with him. However, I wonder what the camera manufacturers are doing in response to the growing trend of the smartphone replacing the traditional camera.
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, internat... (show quote)



Thanks for the humor. I haven't had my daily laugh until now.

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Mar 24, 2016 17:56:03   #
charles brown Loc: Tennesse
 
lev29 wrote:
Charles, if you believe this article is worth reading, why don't you provide its URL? I could be wrong, but I believe that would attract more people to see what you think, etc. :wink: 8-)


Here it is:

http://erickimphotography.com/blog/

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Mar 24, 2016 17:58:51   #
Hacksaw Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
My iphone will never replace my dslr. I use my phone to take snapshots but when it comes to photography, I pull out my D7200 or even my P&S P900 depending on what I'm trying to accomplish. I had a most frustrating experience while in Yellowstone NP; people would stop and park their autos in the middle of the road (while backing up traffic), rush out and try snap a pic of a bear which was 200-300 yards away with their iPad or smartphone. Had to laugh when I posted a moonshot and someone replied "wow, that's better than my phone". :roll:

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Mar 24, 2016 17:59:20   #
Black Bart Loc: Indiana
 
charles brown wrote:
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, international street photographer, entitled" Why the 4" iPhone SE will Revolutionize Photography." Inasmuch as this issue has been discussed before thought it would of interest to see what another is saying about the direction that photography is taking for the vast majority of people today. Below are three paragraphs from that article:

"First of all, I believe the iPhone 6S camera (now the iPhone SE camera) is more than sufficient for 99% of us photographers. Many of us now upload our photos to Instagram and social networks; where we see the images through a 4 to 6 inch screen. Unfortunately for most photographers, printing photos is a thing of the past. So unless you plan on printing your photos super large, a 12-megapixel camera is more than enough for you."

"Secondly, you no longer “need” a laptop, desktop, or a proper computing device. Your smartphone can do almost anything that your laptop/desktop can do. Especially for us photographers, we can use free tools like VSCO to edit/post-process our images."

"Thirdly, our smartphones are also publishing devices. In the past, photographers had to print their images if they wanted their images to “exist” in the real world. Nowadays we can upload our photos immediately to social media networks. direct message them to our friends, or view on our devices for our own enjoyment."

Can't say that I disagree with him. However, I wonder what the camera manufacturers are doing in response to the growing trend of the smartphone replacing the traditional camera.
Just read an article written by Eric Kim, internat... (show quote)
I just checked your threads that you have started and this is one of many with same subject.
Looks like you are on a crusade to convince people that a cell phone is equal to a DSLR.

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Mar 24, 2016 18:33:50   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Well, the smart phone has already revolutionized the selfie! It's only a matter of time before ALL those selfie users discover real photography and run out and buy a DSLR!!!!! :lol:
SS

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Mar 24, 2016 18:46:25   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Today's phone cameras yield better quality photos than the film or digital point-and-shoot cameras of the past. If you just shoot snapshots which you post on the web and never print, they are great. But serious photographers who do print their photos and have high standards are always going to want more control over the photographic process. That said, a highly skilled photographer will take better photos with a phone camera than the average photographer will with the most expensive camera.

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Mar 24, 2016 18:47:23   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Black Bart wrote:
I just checked your threads that you have started and this is one of many with same subject.
Looks like you are on a crusade to convince people that a cell phone is equal to a DSLR.
The truth is that the cell phone has replaced/obsoleted the P&S camera, which is where most of the action/profit was {and, yes, there was a time about 25-30 years ago when lots of "extra" people bought an SLR, and then used it as a P&S}

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