BigBear Loc: Northern CT

The bulk of the astronomical cost was for paying the incompetent souls for implementing a system that failed miserably.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

why are you so hard on repukes. it was their plan. lol guess you forgot :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

You get the Big Ass award for that remark !!!

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

but t***hful remark. dang just can't get over how repukes get so upset when the t***h is mentioned :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

greymule Loc: Colorado

Amazing isn't it. A totally alternate reality unfazed by t***h. And the responses? Absolutely nothing constructive. Nothing on point. Nothing logical. Just prefabricated h**e and personal attacks on the poster. Like unmannered children name-calling. If there was ever any glimmer of intelligence in any the responses, we would mark the day as monumental.

SBW

Which drug store did you worthless law degree come from?

SBW

You are a liar stubby, tonka boy. You just cannot help yourself can you?
Imbecile.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

they rarely comment about the article. the just post about the person that proves their not to bright thought are nowhere in the real world. lol

love seeing them get all fired up. lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

:XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:
boo hoo :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

greymule Loc: Colorado

You, sir, are a jealous loser. Always commenting about my achievements. You must not have very much in your life about which to be proud. Doubtful that you have accomplished anything worthwhile in your entire life. Barely squeaking by in life. Looking back in your life at nothing.

You're jealous that I have had a successful athletic career putting myself through a top undergraduate school playing football, that I am learned, intelligent and articulate. My Law School career was quite exceptional, also, especially in light of the fact that I worked 40 hours per week and still graduated in the top 10%. I received awards for achievement and scholarship in Constitutional Law, Evidence and Insurance Law.

In fact, I received the Farmer's Insurance full tuition scholarship my last year in law school as recognition for my achievements.

Then, in my law career, I was president of the American Board of Trial Advocates and certified as a top trial lawyer by the American Institute of Trial Lawyers.

In my life, I have accomplished things of which you are not even able to dream.

I have climbed 47 different 14,000+ foot peaks, quite a few more than once, and over a 150 13,000 foot peaks.

I am handsome and well-liked in the community and have an abundance of wonderful friends. I have well-defined muscles, hair on my chest, and I look good without a shirt.

I have traveled all over the world, on 5 continents. I am well read and enjoy reading both fiction and nonfiction.

I am very happy with my life. Three grown successful children and seven wonderful grandchildren. My family and friends love me very much.

It must be tough having to admire me and my life, being the poor sad sack loser that you are.

You have the manners and wit of a sub-human, marginal creature. I smile every time that you spew h**e toward me. It demonstrates just how unhappy you must be. How your h**e and anger towards the world have corrupted your very soul.

Is it the disappointment with your life? Your lack of self confidence and lack of feeling of any self worth?

Anyways, be comforted by the thought that every time you spew your h**e towards me, I smile and feel better about myself.

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

People "like it" ROFL in the liberal wolrd, people love April 15th when they gleefully pay their ever increasing "fair" share of the sweat off their brow to support the ever shrinking real services they receive and to support those who do absolutely nothing...

Where the hell did you get "People like it" from ROFL - and note that the real punitive fees for non compliance hasn't hit yet. Up till now, paying the fine was cheaper then the insurance. On the other hand, going to prison- i suppose you'll have free health care- or getting your wages garnished- and you'll say- People love it! So far the biggest cost reductin seems to be the number of people no longer seeking and thus using health care.


The one way it is reducing costs is actually dissuading people from going in the first place. The most affordable plans come with very high deductibles per person, better hope not more than one person in a family gets sick at once!

I absolutely h**e liberals, the hypocrisy and their blatant lies...

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13347170/1/high-deductibles-are-forcing-consumers-to-skip-doctor-s-visits.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/us/politics/many-say-high-deductibles-make-their-health-law-insurance-all-but-useless.html?_r=0

http://www.managedcaremag.com/archives/2010/1/higher-copayments-and-deductibles-delay-medical-care-%C2%A0common-problem-americans

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

it just that he has used all his vocaulary for the day. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

You and the t***h cannot occupy the same space at the same time.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

more so than you. lol poor lil crying repuke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD: :XD:

greymule Loc: Colorado

Tsk, tsk. Tough being in the American minority, isn't it. H**e liberals? You're just jealous, and h**eful, and unfulfilled in your life and looking for someone to blame for your failure, aren't you? Too bad your life was not more successful. And who do you blame for that? Check the mirror and you'll see the source of your failures and resulting h**e.

Liberals don't h**e you. I'm a humanist, not a liberal. But I still don't h**e you. I pity you, stuck in your vicious cycle of h**e. No matter what comes down the pike, you'll find something to h**e. Why? Because it fills a psychological need for you.

You blame insurance for high health care. Very misguided. Pay for service, hospitals that have no conscious, pharmaceutical manufacturers that charge exorbitant prices for new drugs that aren't much better than the old, and try to block Americans from getting their medicines from Canada at a fraction of the cost. Another pressure pushing health costs higher is the fear of being sued if doctors don't use every expensive diagnostic tool.

America's healthcare system is woefully broken-

U.S. Healthcare Ranked Dead Last Compared To 10 Other Countries (Forbes)

Earlier this year, Cadillac ran a controversial TV ad that first aired during the opening ceremonies of the 2014 Winter Olympics. It was called “Poolside” and featured actor Neal McDonough extolling America’s work ethic over other countries — specifically France.

Turns out that many of those “other countries” (including France) score better than the U.S. in one key metric not included in Cadillac’s TV spot — healthcare. At least that’s according to The Commonwealth Fund in their latest report “Mirror, Mirror On The Wall — 2014 Update” (pdf here).

For this year’s survey on overall health care, The Commonwealth Fund ranked the U.S. dead last .

1. United Kingdom

2. Switzerland

3. Sweden

4. Australia

5. Germany & Netherlands (tied)

7. New Zealand & Norway (tied)

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9. France

10. Canada

11. United States

It’s fairly well accepted that the U.S. is the most expensive healthcare system in the world, but many continue to falsely assume that we pay more for healthcare because we get better health (or better health outcomes). The evidence, however, clearly doesn’t support that view.

TCFchart

The report itself is fairly short (32 pages), but included prior surveys and national health system scorecards as well as data from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). The report also included a list of major findings — including these:

Quality: The indicators of quality were grouped into four categories: effective care, safe care, coordinated care, and patient-centered care. Compared with the other 10 countries, the U.S. fares best on provision and receipt of preventive and patient-centered care.

Access: Not surprisingly — given the absence of universal coverage — people in the U.S. go without needed health care because of cost more often than people do in the other countries.

Efficiency: On indicators of efficiency, the U.S. ranks last among the 11 countries, with the U.K. and Sweden ranking first and second, respectively. The U.S. has poor performance on measures of national health expenditures and administrative costs as well as on measures of administrative hassles, avoidable emergency room use, and duplicative medical testing.

Equity: The U.S. ranks a clear last on measures of equity. Americans with below-average incomes were much more likely than their counterparts in other countries to report not visiting a physician when sick; not getting a recommended test, treatment, or follow-up care; or not filling a prescription or skipping doses when needed because of costs. On each of these indicators, one-third or more lower-income adults in the U.S. said they went without needed care because of costs in the past year.

Healthy lives: The U.S. ranks last overall with poor scores on all three indicators of healthy lives — mortality amenable to medical care, infant mortality, and healthy life expectancy at age 60. Overall, France, Sweden, and Switzerland rank highest on healthy lives.

Perhaps the biggest single takeaway was this one:

The most notable way the U.S. differs from other industrialized countries is the absence of universal health insurance coverage. Other nations ensure the accessibility of care through universal health systems and through better ties between patients and the physician practices that serve as their medical homes. The Commonwealth Fund “Mirror, Mirror On The Wall — 2014 Update”

Unfortunately, many still equate “universal healthcare” with “Government run” or “single payer” healthcare. It isn’t (Universal Coverage Is Not “Single Payer” Healthcare — here).

All of which makes Cadillac’s advertising chutzpah even more brazen. After all, it was just seven short months ago that the Government “bailout” of GM officially ended. One of the more commonly cited reasons for the dire financial predicament of the auto industry giant was always — yup — ballooning healthcare costs. Just as Starbucks SBUX -0.68% spends more on healthcare benefits than coffee beans — GM (at least in 2005) spent more on healthcare benefits than steel.

The U.S. excels in many areas, but clearly population health (and all its related components) isn’t one of them. N’est-ce pas?

Part of the healthcare cost problem is the population.

More than two-thirds (68.8 percent) of adults are considered to be overweight or obese.
More than one-third (35.7 percent) of adults are considered to be obese.
More than 1 in 20 (6.3 percent) have extreme obesity.
Almost 3 in 4 men (74 percent) are considered to be overweight or obese.
The prevalence of obesity is similar for both men and women (about 36 percent).
About 8 percent of women are considered to have extreme obesity.

Have you noticed that at every checkout cash register in every store there is a sugary soft drink cooler and racks of sugar candy. Even in computer stores, Best Buys, Home Depots. It's crazy the sugar that's pushed in America for profit.

Combine this load of fat asses doing nothing active with smoking and real health problems and associated costs arise. And this doesn't include the "smokeless" crowd with their lip, tongue and esophageal cancers and dental problems.

In 2014, nearly 17 of every 100 U.S. adults aged 18 years or older (16.8%) currently* smoked cigarettes. This means an estimated 40 million adults in the United States currently smoke cigarettes.1
Cigarette smoking is the leading cause of preventable disease and death in the United States, accounting for more than 480,000 deaths every year, or 1 of every 5 deaths.2
More than 16 million Americans live with a smoking-related disease.2
Current smoking has declined from nearly 21 of every 100 adults (20.9%) in 2005 to nearly 17 of every 100 adults (16.8%) in 2014.1

So, you're ranting about liberals and how you h**e them. The h**e is eating away your soul and your brain. Try getting some mental health care. You'll be a lot happier if you could lose the h**e.