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Mar 15, 2016 17:49:49   #
EdM Loc: FN30JS
 
cannot seem to get "Ansel A" quality BLACK from the local printer... no where near as black as on the monitor.. anyone any ideas? tnx Ed

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Mar 15, 2016 18:10:37   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
Go onto Gimp homepage look under tutorials and 'converting images to B & W lots of info there on converting using several methods. Also some tips on the use of sRGB versus printing in RGB and why 'What you see Isn't what you get'.

It is quite an interesting site to explore and no matter which PP programme you use there will be info that will add to your knowlege.

probably a better answer than get your monitor calibrated!

have fun

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Mar 15, 2016 18:12:44   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
Have COSTCO print it to your satisfaction
EdM wrote:
cannot seem to get "Ansel A" quality BLACK from the local printer... no where near as black as on the monitor.. anyone any ideas? tnx Ed

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Mar 15, 2016 18:13:27   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Is there a Zone System for digital?

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Mar 15, 2016 18:21:45   #
EdM Loc: FN30JS
 
thanks all, now I have at least a direction.....

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Mar 15, 2016 19:22:35   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Mac wrote:
Is there a Zone System for digital?


The zone system is what it is and has nothing to do with what type of camera you have.

Now, how you take advantage of it may differ.

http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/how-to/shooting/the-digital-zone-system.html#.VuiYoeQUVEb

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Mar 15, 2016 19:43:43   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Bill_de wrote:
The zone system is what it is and has nothing to do with what type of camera you have.

Now, how you take advantage of it may differ.

http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/how-to/shooting/the-digital-zone-system.html#.VuiYoeQUVEb

--


Thanks for the link Bill, very interesting. I've bookmarked it for future study.

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Mar 16, 2016 06:18:45   #
photocat Loc: Atlanta, Ga
 
Need to find a printer that will print bw as it should look.

Or find someone who uses only shades of grey inks intheirprintet

It took years for epson togeton board with printers that would do a good job and most commercial one hour places where awful with strange color cast. From green topink

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Mar 16, 2016 08:49:04   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
EdM wrote:
cannot seem to get "Ansel A" quality BLACK from the local printer... no where near as black as on the monitor.. anyone any ideas? tnx Ed


Seriously, I'm not trying to be cocky here, but that is why I don't shoot film at the moment. I currently don't have a place to set up my darkroom and I have never been satisfied with local print shops. I hope to get back to film soon but for now it is good for me to learn digital. IMO using local print shops for film is like leaving a digital camera in auto mode and not pushing the PP past whatever the camera does. I hope you get it worked out.

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Mar 16, 2016 08:50:13   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Mac wrote:
Is there a Zone System for digital?


Wouldn't that be HDR?

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Mar 16, 2016 09:45:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
EdM wrote:
cannot seem to get "Ansel A" quality BLACK from the local printer... no where near as black as on the monitor.. anyone any ideas? tnx Ed


Answers to these must be YES to achieve predictable results:

Is your monitor calibrated and profiled using a colorimeter and software from XRITE or ColorVision or equivalent?

Are you using the lab's printer profiles as soft proofing profiles?

Are you ordering prints made on an art paper using a high end Epson or Canon inkjet photo printer? (Digital B&W silver halide prints are often made on color paper!)

Did they give you their standard test print to verify that what you see on your monitor during soft proofing is what you get on their prints?

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Mar 16, 2016 09:51:08   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
EdM wrote:
cannot seem to get "Ansel A" quality BLACK from the local printer... no where near as black as on the monitor.. anyone any ideas? tnx Ed


What is the RGB value of the "black" you see on your monitor?
--Bob

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Mar 16, 2016 09:52:01   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Here is the bottom line. Only way to get it the way YOU want it is do it yourself.

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Mar 16, 2016 09:52:45   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Mac wrote:
Is there a Zone System for digital?


Yes, there is.
--Bob

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Mar 16, 2016 09:53:20   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
waegwan wrote:
Wouldn't that be HDR?


No.
--Bob

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