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Apr 28, 2012 21:52:46   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
I have been taking pictures at local fairs in South Texas but have encountered a problem. Most tents are bright white and inside the seller's stall is dark. Can't use multi -picture HDR because of movement of people. Either the tent is blown out in white or the tent has detail but the dark area is too dark and has no detail. Sliders in Photoshop make the pictures look balanced, but when you look carefully, major crisp ddetail is missing in either the tent or inside the stall. Do you have a recommendation to solve this problem?

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Apr 28, 2012 22:00:46   #
gdwsr Loc: Northern California
 
It is always difficult to squeeze more out of a photo than the camera can handle. The pat answer I have read in this situation is to expose for the highlights because you can get more detail out of the shadows.

Another option is to consider the HDR concept. Expose the "master" image for the activity you are trying to capture, i.e.. the seller's stall and people. Then take one of the bright areas, i.e. the tent. Then in PS layer and mask in the tent onto the master.

I am sure others will have other great suggestions

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Apr 28, 2012 22:04:10   #
bawlmer Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
If they don't have a problem with flash, that might be your best alternative to getting a balanced photo. It's like taking a photo of someone with the bright sun behind them. Their face will end up in a shadow. So you use fill flash to get some light on your subject while keeping the bright sun behind them in the picture.

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Apr 29, 2012 09:19:46   #
docrob Loc: Durango, Colorado
 
jrlatham4567 wrote:
I have been taking pictures at local fairs in South Texas but have encountered a problem. Most tents are bright white and inside the seller's stall is dark. Can't use multi -picture HDR because of movement of people. Either the tent is blown out in white or the tent has detail but the dark area is too dark and has no detail. Sliders in Photoshop make the pictures look balanced, but when you look carefully, major crisp ddetail is missing in either the tent or inside the stall. Do you have a recommendation to solve this problem?
I have been taking pictures at local fairs in Sout... (show quote)


flash or overcast light

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Apr 29, 2012 11:13:40   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
You could single frame HDR it in raw. Then save the image twice. One two stops over and one stop under. You raw program will allow you to do this to the single image. Then take all three images and HDR them. I've found this to be fairly effective and if done properly will look just like your eyes saw it. HDR is noted for it's extreme effects but often overlook for enhancing a normal photograph.

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Apr 29, 2012 12:00:15   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
I will try exposing for the light areas and try to drag more detail out of the dark. My previous aatemts at this have not been too successful. Thanks for the feedback

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Apr 29, 2012 12:01:38   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
Also I can't use HDR because the people move between pictures

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Apr 29, 2012 12:07:24   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
I will try fill flash. Pictures at a fair are almost always ok. But even with a 28mm lens, to get the whole exhibit stall in the picture, I didn't think I would to be able to get close enough for the flash to light up much. But I will try it and see what happens.

This contrast problem also exhists shooting outdoors here because the sun is extremely bright. But I can always use HDR in that case.

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Apr 29, 2012 12:09:24   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
Great advice. I have been using high jpg and it just doesn't work.

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Apr 29, 2012 15:08:45   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
You can't use multiple frame HDR with people but you can use single frame. I believe single frame will help with his problem. I've used single frame before and it works ok.

jrlatham4567 wrote:
Also I can't use HDR because the people move between pictures

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Apr 29, 2012 15:45:35   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
jrlatham4567 wrote:
Most tents are bright white and inside the seller's stall is dark. Can't use multi -picture HDR because of movement of people. Do you have a recommendation to solve this problem?
Set a high ISO - maybe 1600 or so - use a smaller aperture - maybe f/8, meter on the brighter areas and shoot with fill flash.

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Apr 29, 2012 21:12:52   #
PhotoTex Loc: Texas
 
Thanks. I will give it a try

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Apr 30, 2012 02:05:35   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
jrlatham4567 wrote:
I have been taking pictures at local fairs in South Texas but have encountered a problem. Most tents are bright white and inside the seller's stall is dark. Can't use multi -picture HDR because of movement of people. Either the tent is blown out in white or the tent has detail but the dark area is too dark and has no detail. Sliders in Photoshop make the pictures look balanced, but when you look carefully, major crisp ddetail is missing in either the tent or inside the stall. Do you have a recommendation to solve this problem?
I have been taking pictures at local fairs in Sout... (show quote)


Bracket three or more exposures then use PS to remove the people from all but one and finish with HDR

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Apr 30, 2012 02:28:44   #
professorwheeze Loc: Maine, USA
 
Jer wrote:
You can't use multiple frame HDR with people but you can use single frame. I believe single frame will help with his problem. I've used single frame before and it works ok.

jrlatham4567 wrote:
Also I can't use HDR because the people move between pictures


Yes--you are absolutely correct.

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May 1, 2012 08:14:10   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
The tent being white is a big softbox or reflector, try max power on your flash (assuming you are not using the on camera flash) and bounce off ceiling or sides of tent

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